Guys: would you date a girl with herpes

[macon]

Garnet is right, perhaps trying to inject facts here is pointless.

[tanbark813]

A man has as much responsibility towards sex potentially causing pregnancy as well. If that man has herpes, he's just as responsible for ensuring that it's not spread, everytime he has sex.

 

 

The medical community doesn't but a responsible man with herpes should be trying to ensure that he acts responsibly by not spreading through informing the partner and medicating.

 

Not really sure how we got on this tangent but of course a responsible man or woman will inform their partner. I don't think that was ever disputed anywhere in this thread.

 

It's impossible to ensure it won't spread though. Medication only reduces the likelihood.

[macon]

"Why are you resorting to insults ?.."

 

.....

 

"Oh come on Macon..quite your whinning..."

 

Mmmmm

[Trialbyfire]

Not really sure how we got on this tangent but of course a responsible man or woman will inform their partner. I don't think that was ever disputed anywhere in this thread.

 

It's impossible to ensure it won't spread though. Medication only reduces the likelihood.

Isn't the reduction of likelihood worth the reduction of potential risk of neonatal damage?

[garnet]

Isn't the reduction of likelihood worth the reduction of potential risk of neonatal damage?

 

I think it goes without saying that any reasonable and responsible person with herpes, including myself, would work with their doctor to take all of the necessary precautions to protect their baby.

[Trialbyfire]

I think it goes without saying that any reasonable and responsible person with herpes, including myself, would work with their doctor to take all of the necessary precautions to protect their baby.

You have my respect garnet, for being a responsible person.

[tanbark813]

Isn't the reduction of likelihood worth the reduction of potential risk of neonatal damage?

 

I guess that depends on how likely your baby is to be born retarded or a Hillary supporter.

[SouthernT]

Not too many colds cause encephalitis in babies.

 

Oh WOW!! Now THIS, I never knew...

[dreamergrl]

I see where you are coming from about the many.. just simply because most people don't know that they have herpes then they don't use medicine..

 

But... if they did know..they would need medication..

 

From what I have googled and come up with medicine is required for life if you want to try and suppress the breakouts..

otherwise the medicine would be considered a CURE...

 

I haven't run across anything that says a patient who has herpes and breakouts doesn't need medication.

I don't understand the thought process of that.. if a medication reduces breakouts then wouldn't people use the medication ?

 

Sorry I think I mixed up some of what I was trying to say. Let me try it again. Because so many don't have outbreaks or they are so mild, they don't use meds such as valtrex. Most people don't experience outbreaks after a year, and if they do it's very far and in between. So if you don't have outbreaks, or they aren't hard to deal with, many choose not to use the drugs for it.

[dreamergrl]

When you have a disease that can cause such neonatal damage, wouldn't you be more interested in getting medication to ensure there's less risk of spread, thus less risk of damage?

 

I suppose if I were a pregnant woman with HSV2, then yes.

 

A c-section can fix this

[Hoffle]

is herpies when your penis drops off and rots like a corpse? or is it the stuff you get on your shower curtain, what is herpies and how do you know when you get it?

 

is it like a rash on your nuts and cruts and bruts?

[dreamergrl]

Everytime a man has sex with a woman, there's risk of pregnancy and contraction of herpes. It's known and accepted theory that outbreaks happen more frequently during the first year of contraction. The gestational period for human babies is less than a year.

 

You're more likely to spread herpes during an outbreak but yes, it can be contracted through viral shedding.

 

Medication helps to suppress outbreaks.

 

As for the comment about C-sections, right. I'm sure the medical community would be thrilled with women electing to have C-sections so they can sleep with people who have herpes.

 

Actually a c-section would be healthy for the baby because a pregnant women shouldn't be pumping up on meds, and that's assuming she needs them

[Trialbyfire]

Actually a c-section would be healthy for the baby because a pregnant women shouldn't be pumping up on meds, and that's assuming she needs them

My point was about men with herpes taking the meds, not women.

[Hoffle]

what is herpies and how do you know someone has it, do they have a manky clit?

[dreamergrl]

My point was about men with herpes taking the meds, not women.

 

I know this isn't exactly relevant - but more women have hsv then men. It's been led to believe that it's easier for a woman to contract the virus then a man.

[tanbark813]

My point was about men with herpes taking the meds, not women.

 

Women are the ones who have the babies, TBF. I'm surprised you didn't learn this in biology.

[Trialbyfire]

Women are the ones who have the babies, TBF. I'm surprised you didn't learn this in biology.

You're just as responsible for babies, as a woman. Didn't you learn that in sex ed?

[tanbark813]

You're just as responsible for babies, as a woman.

 

Yes, but since women are the ones who actually give birth, the man has little to do with transmission of HSV to the newborn.

 

I'd ask you why you're so focused on men rather than women in what seems to me should be a non-gender-specific discussion, but I already know it's because you're a misandrist.

[Trialbyfire]

Yes, but since women are the ones who actually give birth, the man has little to do with transmission of HSV to the newborn.

 

I'd ask you why you're so focused on men rather than women in what seems to me should be a non-gender-specific discussion, but I already know it's because you're a misandrist.

You're stating that men are not responsible for newborns getting HSV.

 

Go back to where we originally started discussing medication. You might even begin to understand the flow of the thread a little.

 

If I'm a misandrist, you're a misogynist and from the above, not much into taking equal responsibility for children.

[dreamergrl]

Yes, but since women are the ones who actually give birth, the man has little to do with transmission of HSV to the newborn.

 

I'd ask you why you're so focused on men rather than women in what seems to me should be a non-gender-specific discussion, but I already know it's because you're a misandrist.

 

I'm also a bit confused on what men taking meds has to do with women giving birth.

 

This is more so just an opinion I've gathered from everything I've read, but...

 

As far as viral shedding goes, I think it's possible for it to still happen just as much on meds, mainly because while there are meds to fight and shorten the infections, the virus still has to surface to be needed to fight off.

 

I think it's more important to keep your immune system up so the virus doesn't surface and is naturally suppressed, instead of taking meds on an as need basis. If you check out the health boards you'll notice a lot of people using natural choices to keep HSV in check, if it even needs to be anymore.

[dreamergrl]

You're stating that men are not responsible for newborns getting HSV.

 

Go back to where we originally started discussing medication. You might even begin to understand the flow of the thread a little.

 

If I'm a misandrist, you're a misogynist and from the above, not much into taking equal responsibility for children.

 

I think a women not taking the appropriate actions to prevent her newborn is the cause of babies ending up with it.

 

With the 40 million (americans) who have HSV 2 or 1 genitally, I don't think it's fair to place blame on man or woman.

[tanbark813]

TBF, it's honestly impossible to have a sane discussion with you because every time you respond you go off on a tangent and falsely extrapolate on what people write.

 

You're stating that men are not responsible for newborns getting HSV.

 

Correct. It would only happen by way of a woman passing it along during childbirth. I don't buy into your twisted "logic" that if a woman passes HSV along to a newborn, the man who gave it to her is responsible.

 

("BLAME THE EVIL PENIS OWNER!!")

 

Besides, what if the father does not have herpes? Or, taking your train of thought, what if the father did but caught herpes from his ex. From your "reasoning" it would be the ex's responsibility. There are so many holes I hardly know where to begin.

 

If I'm a misandrist, you're a misogynist and from the above, not much into taking equal responsibility for children.

 

Nope. I wholeheartedly believe in equal responsibility of a couple for their children.

[Art_Critic]

You're stating that men are not responsible for newborns getting HSV.

 

Men can be.. but by giving herpes to a pregnant woman who doesn't have it and then giving it to the baby thru birth

 

http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/herpes-risk-newborn.html

 

In general, any woman who has not had herpes and who has a sexual partner with herpes is considered at high risk. Experts recommend that such women abstain from sex -- or at least use condoms -- in the second half of pregnancy. Cesarean section clearly lowers the risk of infection, but there is some controversy over when to recommend it. Before delivery, physicians should question women about symptoms of active herpes infection and examine them for any signs. In most if not all cases of active herpes, the doctor should recommend C-section. After a baby is born to a woman with herpes, the newborn should be closely monitored for any sign of disease. At the first sign of infection, the baby should receive the antiviral drug acyclovir (trade name Zovirax).

 

[tanbark813]

Or what if a husband infects his wife with herpes and then she cheats on him and passes it along to the OM. Would you still blame the husband for not being "responsible" enough to make sure it wasn't passed to the OM?

[Trialbyfire]

Men can be.. but by giving herpes to a pregnant woman who doesn't have it and then giving it to the baby thru birth

 

http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/herpes-risk-newborn.html

Thank you for going back to the initial discussion about medication and reiterating my point. I had actually given up on running around in circles, restating the same points over and over again.