Are all men cheaters??

[OldEurope]

Of course as men get older and pack on the weight, lose the hair and friends get hitched up they want more than just arm candy and feel more of the need for a much deeper emotional bond so they start looking for arm candy-"ish" women with depth but find that sometimes they have to lower their expecations since their ideals are not that easy to come by.

 

Or, they become even better looking, do not lose their hair, do not pack on the weight, they are feeling more accomplished and self confident and their standards become even higher. The older Jimmy Stewart was far better looking than in his younger days, and as the older guy in Rear Window (one of the sexiest movies, ever) he got the younger Grace Kelly

 

xoxoxo

OE

[carhill]

 

Or, they become even better looking, do not lose their hair, do not pack on the weight, they are feeling more accomplished and self confident and their standards become even higher. The older Jimmy Stewart was far better looking than in his younger days, and as the older guy in Rear Window (one of the sexiest movies, ever) he got the younger Grace Kelly

 

xoxoxo

OE

Great example, OE; one of the great gentlemen of all time, and, to stay on topic, faithful and true, both to his wife and his country.

[Tomcat33]

 

Or, they become even better looking, do not lose their hair, do not pack on the weight, they are feeling more accomplished and self confident and their standards become even higher. The older Jimmy Stewart was far better looking than in his younger days, and as the older guy in Rear Window (one of the sexiest movies, ever) he got the younger Grace Kelly

 

xoxoxo

OE

 

 

I agree, but that was not the type of man I was describing I was describing the type that does not get better with age.

[mental_traveller]

Single men and married men in open marriages don't cheat, by definition.

[silktricks]

Like I said before when I'm out with my wife, I get alot more looks from women then I do when I go out by myself. I've been approached more as well.

 

My husband says that, too. I don't believe him, either. I do believe that you (and he) may be more aware of the looks when you are with your wife.

 

I know that I personally am more aware of another man looking if I'm with my husband than if I'm alone.

[White Flower]

This was me before I took a good look at myself and decided I wanted a chance at a happy family life. It's funny what bad experiences can do to you. My father was abusive and a serial cheater before my mother divorced him. On the one hand, what he did disgusted me. On the other hand, I was so scared of becoming the "wife" (what I considered the sad, older, used and abused woman) that up untill I was about 21 I decided to be the OW. I think that many woman who end up with married men are like this. I wonder if it's the same for the men who end up with married women.

I think we all tend to think that people would do what we would do. But I grew up very differently and yet I became an OW.

 

I was very hurt for and by my father when he started an A with the OW. I was really religious and spent all my time in church praying for his soul for years! I think the soul that needed changing, however, was mine. My lesson was not to be so judgmental. It only took about 20 years but I finally learned it. BTW, he was not abusive nor an alcoholic. He just married the wrong person even though she was a warm, loving, and beautiful woman. Some things are unexplainable to us, but what I learned is that we can marry the wrong person and we need to forgive each other for that and move on.

 

There are many paths to the OW road. I think the most surprising one is the one of 'I just don't understand!' Believe me, if you keep questioning it, the answer will be shown to you.

[angie2443]

Was that a conscious choice at the time, Angie, or one that you recognise now in retrospect? I'm asking because there are very few OW around here who are OW as a result of a conscious choice - I was one, though for rather different reasons to yours - so it's interesting to hear you describe it in those terms.

 

 

My first time bieng with someone was when I was 16 and he was married. That's a long time ago for me, so I can't really say how conscious my decision to be with him because he married, was, if that makes sense. I do know that I had a negative view of what a "wife" was which I learned from my father and his friends. I saw what my father's affairs (maybe more like one night stands) did to my mom, and while I hated him for it, I didn't want to go through what she did. Part of me thought that women could be either the cheated on wife, or the OW. Nothing inbetween. Part of me knew better.

 

Anyways, I guess I could say that while I didn't wake up one morning and say "I'm going to hook up with a married man", some where, in the back of my mind, that is what I was looking for.

[GoodOnPaper]

I'll give you an example of one of those situations. We went to a bar, my wife and I and noticed two women come up and stand next to me. I was partially drunk and the music was loud. The two women were talking among themselves.

 

My wife said she needed to goto the bathroom, and as soon as she was out of sight, the one woman started talking to me saying 'I see your tag from your shirt was sticking out, so I'm going to fix it'. Well, her fixing it was her rubbing the back of my neck. She then grabbed the back of my hair and whispered something into my ear. It was pretty apparent what she wanted. I didn't recipocate her and she then went to a table with her friend.

 

It's stuff like that, that happens. I usually will get a smile or two from a woman, where as if I go in alone i'm just another fish in the sea.

 

Just like if your gf splits up with you, probably one of the fastest ways to get her attention is to start dating someone else. Competition/jealously really drives some women.

 

Does putting on a wedding band really make that much difference? I've received zero attention from women since I've been married, but this is only slightly less than what I received when I was single. I tend to believe that the fundamental factors that determine one's level of demand don't really change from singlehood to married life. Relating this to the OP's question about men cheating, I think external validation (or lack of) can affect men's outlooks on their marriages and cheating.

[angie2443]

Does putting on a wedding band really make that much difference? I've received zero attention from women since I've been married, but this is only slightly less than what I received when I was single. I tend to believe that the fundamental factors that determine one's level of demand don't really change from singlehood to married life. Relating this to the OP's question about men cheating, I think external validation (or lack of) can affect men's outlooks on their marriages and cheating.

 

I think some men and women give off a vibe that they want externat attention. For some reason, some men and women, when they put the wedding ring on, give off that vibe more. Maybe, they feel trapped by the ring, and so are acting more "open" to other potential partners. I don't know if this is the exact reason, but I've seen this happen.

[OWoman]

I think some men and women give off a vibe that they want externat attention. For some reason, some men and women, when they put the wedding ring on, give off that vibe more. Maybe, they feel trapped by the ring, and so are acting more "open" to other potential partners. I don't know if this is the exact reason, but I've seen this happen.

 

Then again... Most women, just like most men, are attracted to partners who are happy, confident, secure. And sexy. So, when you're pumping out pheromones, potential partners are going to be picking up on that.

 

In jmargel's case, maybehe's out with his W, hot and ready for her, pushing out loved up pheromones, and those chicks just can't resist. Or other guys go out, so desperate for attention since they're not getting any from their Ws, and send out these take me, take me! vibes that smack of a loser's last cry of desperation, scaring all the women off?

[MrsHellnoFire]

Get real!

 

Guys do this because it's what works! The media is just doing a better job at letting guys know how women think.

 

Competition fuels female attraction much more so than with men. You want the guy that all the other women want. Then you want him to be faithful. Then... if he is... he doesn't seem so attractive anymore, cause he isn't being chased by other females.

 

This is not true of everyone... but for the vast majority it is!

 

 

What does competition matter when you just bounce from one dirty bed to the next? I'm not talking about men at the age to settle. I don't even understand how you related this to my post. A man who bangs a lot of chicks you say will attract more to bang or something? Ok, but he must have the qualities there to do such actions in the first place. Qualities the media conditions into the male psyche. That's hard for you to accept because men cannot handle the loss of control.

 

What I find attractive is a STRONG men; cheating is a sign of weakness and lack of self-esteem. I'm much more attracted to a good-looking man who seems like a one-woman-kind-of-guy than just some bed-hopper! LOL! I was completely turned off when Colin Pherral came out with a sex tape.. that's how disgusting that behavior is to me.

 

 

Actually competition works terrificly with men.. even causing physiological changes like an increase in sperm production and sex drive.

[angie2443]

What does competition matter when you just bounce from one dirty bed to the next? I'm not talking about men at the age to settle. I don't even understand how you related this to my post. A man who bangs a lot of chicks you say will attract more to bang or something? Ok, but he must have the qualities there to do such actions in the first place. Qualities the media conditions into the male psyche.

 

I think that men who sleep around alot tend to attract women who sleep around alot. I think that a woman who wants a one on one relationship and has good self esteem won't find a man such as the one described above, attractive.

[Untouchable_Fire]

What does competition matter when you just bounce from one dirty bed to the next? I'm not talking about men at the age to settle. I don't even understand how you related this to my post. A man who bangs a lot of chicks you say will attract more to bang or something? Ok, but he must have the qualities there to do such actions in the first place. Qualities the media conditions into the male psyche. That's hard for you to accept because men cannot handle the loss of control.

 

What I find attractive is a STRONG men; cheating is a sign of weakness and lack of self-esteem. I'm much more attracted to a good-looking man who seems like a one-woman-kind-of-guy than just some bed-hopper! LOL! I was completely turned off when Colin Pherral came out with a sex tape.. that's how disgusting that behavior is to me.

 

Actually competition works terrificly with men.. even causing physiological changes like an increase in sperm production and sex drive.

 

Oh, you were blaming the media for telling men that they need to act like players. I was just saying that isn't the case so much that acting like a player works well with the vast majority of the female population.

 

Fact is that guys don't walk around with signs that say, cheater, or player, or whatever. So if your waiting to see the sex tape before you decide he isn't your type... your going to get played.

 

In regards to competition... it does work well with both sexes, but in different ways.

[angie2443]

Oh, you were blaming the media for telling men that they need to act like players. I was just saying that isn't the case so much that acting like a player works well with the vast majority of the female population.

 

Fact is that guys don't walk around with signs that say, cheater, or player, or whatever. So if your waiting to see the sex tape before you decide he isn't your type... your going to get played.

 

In regards to competition... it does work well with both sexes, but in different ways.

 

People give non-verbal cues as to how "open" they are all the time. A certain smile, a certain glance, the way we dress, and our tone of voice we use when we talk about our partners (well, I guess this is kind of verbal) give clues as to how open we are to other relationships.

[MrsHellnoFire]

Oh, you were blaming the media for telling men that they need to act like players. I was just saying that isn't the case so much that acting like a player works well with the vast majority of the female population.

 

Fact is that guys don't walk around with signs that say, cheater, or player, or whatever. So if your waiting to see the sex tape before you decide he isn't your type... your going to get played.

 

In regards to competition... it does work well with both sexes, but in different ways.

 

 

Manwhores are not attractive.. it's one thing to get a lot of womens attention (as some said, that could be attractive) and quite another to act on every primitive impulse that comes your way..

[Untouchable_Fire]

People give non-verbal cues as to how "open" they are all the time. A certain smile, a certain glance, the way we dress, and our tone of voice we use when we talk about our partners (well, I guess this is kind of verbal) give clues as to how open we are to other relationships.

 

I typically watch the eyes, and take note of interest levels.

 

I think in general women are harder to read in this. More often you have to build rapport before they begin to show you these types of signals.

 

Manwhores are not attractive.. it's one thing to get a lot of womens attention (as some said, that could be attractive) and quite another to act on every primitive impulse that comes your way..

 

How do you tell the difference between a manwhore and a guy who just gets lots of female attention?

[White Flower]

I typically watch the eyes, and take note of interest levels.

I know I should do my homework and read up on you, but, are you a MM looking for OWs?

[Untouchable_Fire]

I know I should do my homework and read up on you, but, are you a MM looking for OWs?

 

No, but if I was... why would I come here?

[grogster]

I know I should do my homework and read up on you, but, are you a MM looking for OWs?

 

 

Now that's interesting: Married men who attempt to harvest "Other Women" on LoveShack.

 

I can think of better places than here.

[White Flower]

Now that's interesting: Married men who attempt to harvest "Other Women" on LoveShack.

 

I can think of better places than here.

You guys are too funny. I didn't mean that UF was looking for them here! It's just that his post said, 'I typically watch the eyes, and take note of interest levels'. There was another post by him that made me think he was a WS but I just haven't done my homework. Sorry guys, I'm on vacation and feel lazy.

 

PS

I'm still waiting so see MrsHellnoFire's answer to UF's question, "How do you tell the difference between a manwhore and a guy who just gets lots of female attention?"

[Untouchable_Fire]

You guys are too funny. I didn't mean that UF was looking for them here! It's just that his post said, 'I typically watch the eyes, and take note of interest levels'. There was another post by him that made me think he was a WS but I just haven't done my homework. Sorry guys, I'm on vacation and feel lazy.

PS

I'm still waiting so see MrsHellnoFire's answer to UF's question, "How do you tell the difference between a manwhore and a guy who just gets lots of female attention?"

 

Naw... I'm a long time lurker, turned poster. Technically I would be a W/BF, though I'm not doing much W at the moment.

 

PS

 

The answer to that question is one of the universe's most tightly held secrets.

[White Flower]

 

PS

 

The answer to that question is one of the universe's most tightly held secrets.

:lmao::lmao:LOL:lmao::lmao:

[heartbroken72]

My significant other and i have been together for 2years. he cheated on me the first time after 12 months, again a month later, and was just caught talking to five other women. my kids found pics and i have talked to all but one and have had to listen to how he told them that I am a crazy person that doesn't get that he doesn't want me, that we are seperated, that he told them he loved them and wanted to marry them, to lying about going to work out of town while he left me with his kids.

 

I am so angry. I want to know why, and all he can do is tell me it won't happen again. I have to treat him like our 16yr old. i shouldn't have to do that, so i asked him today if we could go to a support group or counseling and he said no. the reason i suggested this is because he has cheated on every woman he has been with and doesnt' know why...we can't fix it if we don't know whats wrong. i love him and my family, but i am not sure i can deal with this again, and i know it is inevitable. what kills me, is every female friend i have says i am making too much of it that all men cheat???? i need some advice plz

[mopar crazy]

My significant other and i have been together for 2years. he cheated on me the first time after 12 months, again a month later, and was just caught talking to five other women. my kids found pics and i have talked to all but one and have had to listen to how he told them that I am a crazy person that doesn't get that he doesn't want me, that we are seperated, that he told them he loved them and wanted to marry them, to lying about going to work out of town while he left me with his kids.

 

I am so angry. I want to know why, and all he can do is tell me it won't happen again. I have to treat him like our 16yr old. i shouldn't have to do that, so i asked him today if we could go to a support group or counseling and he said no. the reason i suggested this is because he has cheated on every woman he has been with and doesnt' know why...we can't fix it if we don't know whats wrong. i love him and my family, but i am not sure i can deal with this again, and i know it is inevitable. what kills me, is every female friend i have says i am making too much of it that all men cheat???? i need some advice plz

 

 

I know it's easier said than done but you need to drop kick this guy to the curb. He isn't going to change and is going to continue to cheat on you.

 

You deserve better than this.

 

To the OP, no I don't beleive all men are cheaters.

[pricillia]

Maybe thyis should be a separate thread.

 

Women cheat sometimes worse then men.