Relationships are way too complicated these days

[Fritz The Cat]

Better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

What ever happened to falling in love and making a life together?

Why is it that every woman I meet has an agenda that doesn't include me? Why are they all gold diggers? Why do they all have more issues than Nation Geographic?

Why do they thrive on drama when they claim to hate it?

Why do they require that men constantly keep them entertained? Why can't they keep themselves entertained?

Why do they crap on the nice guy and love Billy Badass?

 

Like I said, better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

[carhill]

Your control sample is insufficient

 

Go out, get some more sex and check back with us in a month...

[J2FT1]

Better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

What ever happened to falling in love and making a life together?

Why is it that every woman I meet has an agenda that doesn't include me? Why are they all gold diggers? Why do they all have more issues than Nation Geographic?

Why do they thrive on drama when they claim to hate it?

Why do they require that men constantly keep them entertained? Why can't they keep themselves entertained?

Why do they crap on the nice guy and love Billy Badass?

 

Like I said, better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

Dang, this list is so true.

[Gunny376]

Typical personal on-line profile:

 

Her: Earn less than $15k

 

You, (the man) has to earn $10,000 an hour plus have a twelve pack abs.

[FleshNBones]

Better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

What ever happened to falling in love and making a life together?

Why is it that every woman I meet has an agenda that doesn't include me? Why are they all gold diggers? Why do they all have more issues than Nation Geographic?

Why do they thrive on drama when they claim to hate it?

Why do they require that men constantly keep them entertained? Why can't they keep themselves entertained?

Why do they crap on the nice guy and love Billy Badass?

 

Like I said, better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

It makes me wonder if most women have lost sight of their goal, or are focused on living out a fantasy.

 

Constant boredom would suggest someone beyond spoiled. I can never get rid of whiney women fast enough.

[Touche]

That's your problem. You're not dating "women" but girls.

[Trialbyfire]

Typical personal on-line profile:

 

Her: Earn less than $15k

 

You, (the man) has to earn $10,000 an hour plus have a twelve pack abs.

 

Btw, to impress women, it helps to know the name of the magazine you're referencing. It's called National Geographic.

 

If you feel this way, it's probably best to sleep around and sow your morning wheaties...

[Suiyobi]

Better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

What ever happened to falling in love and making a life together?

Why is it that every woman I meet has an agenda that doesn't include me? Why are they all gold diggers? Why do they all have more issues than Nation Geographic?

Why do they thrive on drama when they claim to hate it?

Why do they require that men constantly keep them entertained? Why can't they keep themselves entertained?

Why do they crap on the nice guy and love Billy Badass?

 

Like I said, better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

Lol people do fall in love and make a life together, it just takes a lot of "messing around" before you find that perfect person.

 

Not sure what you mean by "an agenda that doesn't include [you]" but if it's what I think it is then you have to respect her space, dude. I'm sure you want some of your own "me" time every now and then.

 

Only a few are real gold diggers, the rest just want someone who is financially stable or has the potential to be financially stable (by showing that he has a plan and/or takes the initiative to carry out the plan).

 

Drama makes life a little more interesting (ironic, eh?) but I think no one ever means for drama to take place in their lives. If they do, they're probably desperate because they realize their lives are boring to begin with.

 

Not sure about the whole keeping women entertained but research tells me that women like guys who are interesting and not boring.

 

As for crapping on the nice guys, on the contrary women DO like nice guys. They just don't like guys who are always agreeing with them or always doing everything for them, because then those guys end up becoming doormats to the ladies.

 

Take it easy.

[Fritz The Cat]

What I mean by agenda is that there is a reason why she's seeking a relationship with me and it has nothing to do with me. Usually she's looking for someone to bale her out of a financial mess. I'm not stupid or desperate enough yet to fall for this game but that doesn't keep them from trying. As for gold diggers, I have run across one or two that were financially stable themselves but were looking to expand their holdings. Again, if they're looking for something other than love and happiness, they can keep looking as far as I'm concerned.

 

I've come to the conclusion that if there's someone out there for me, she's a fresh widow whose husband died through no fault of hers and she's never learned to play the feminist game.

 

Some day I'll find her.

[Touche]

What I mean by agenda is that there is a reason why she's seeking a relationship with me and it has nothing to do with me. Usually she's looking for someone to bale her out of a financial mess. I'm not stupid or desperate enough yet to fall for this game but that doesn't keep them from trying. As for gold diggers, I have run across one or two that were financially stable themselves but were looking to expand their holdings. Again, if they're looking for something other than love and happiness, they can keep looking as far as I'm concerned.

 

I've come to the conclusion that if there's someone out there for me, she's a fresh widow whose husband died through no fault of hers and she's never learned to play the feminist game.

 

Some day I'll find her.

 

Excellent post, Suiyobi.

 

As for you Fritz, unless you change your attitude you will never find her. Women run from your type. You're negative and bitter. It's downright palpable. I used to run from your type all the time. I didn't meet the right man for me until I was 33.

 

I never had an "agenda" and I never looked for anyone to take care of me financially. I just wanted a good man who I could team up with and have a life with. I wanted someone to love and who would love me for me. I did finally find it but I had to reject quite a few who had your negative attitude.

 

Lose the 'tude dude. You'll NEVER in a zillion years meet a good woman with it. They'll sniff it out and run from you like I did. You have to approach each woman without that attitude.

 

I'm not saying to be naive or stupid. But you're going too much the other way. And obviously what you've been doing hasn't exactly been working for you right?

[Fritz The Cat]

Your opinion means nothing to me since you conveniently chose to ignore the issues I raised. You're the one with the attitude. You think that being a woman entitles you to the keys to the castle. I think it entitles you absolutely nothing. You see this as a "tude"? Get real.

[Touche]

Your opinion means nothing to me since you conveniently chose to ignore the issues I raised. You're the one with the attitude. You think that being a woman entitles you to the keys to the castle. I think it entitles you absolutely nothing. You see this as a "tude"? Get real.

 

Well you've just proved my point with the above. You're sure true to character. Keep it up. I guess it's working for you, right?

 

Sorry my opinion means nothing to you. Why did you even bother posting then? Did you want everyone to just agree with you?

 

Okie, dokie. Good luck living all alone the rest of your life then.

 

Have a great night!

[J2FT1]

Excellent post, Suiyobi.

 

As for you Fritz, unless you change your attitude you will never find her. Women run from your type. You're negative and bitter. It's downright palpable. I used to run from your type all the time. I didn't meet the right man for me until I was 33.

 

I never had an "agenda" and I never looked for anyone to take care of me financially. I just wanted a good man who I could team up with and have a life with. I wanted someone to love and who would love me for me. I did finally find it but I had to reject quite a few who had your negative attitude.

 

Lose the 'tude dude. You'll NEVER in a zillion years meet a good woman with it. They'll sniff it out and run from you like I did. You have to approach each woman without that attitude.

 

I'm not saying to be naive or stupid. But you're going too much the other way. And obviously what you've been doing hasn't exactly been working for you right?

 

But you seriously have to admit that many "women" (yes women) do "talk" about wanting a good man to spend their life with but then lust (and eventually cheats on their husband) for billy badass. Explain this crap. No (or very few) women really wants a nice guy. Get fricken real.

[Touche]

But you seriously have to admit that many "women" (yes women) do "talk" about wanting a good man to spend their life with but then lust (and eventually cheats on their husband) for billy badass. Explain this crap. No (or very few) women really wants a nice guy. Get fricken real.

 

No, YOU get real. I already explained that. You want a girl. Fine. If you want a WOMAN, she won't be interested in the "bad boys." Many of us actually outgrow that stage. Yep, we do.

 

I'd imagine you guys are under 35, right?

 

Also, again, please don't think that your attitudes and your negativity don't come through when you meet a nice woman. Trust me. It does. Like I said, I could sniff it out even when I was in my 20's, and went running for the hills.

 

Until and unless guys like you and our OP here, lose the attitude, I can pretty much guarantee that you'll never meet a woman who will stay with you.

 

You can count on that.

 

But I'm being ignored, right?

[J2FT1]

No, YOU get real. I already explained that. You want a girl. Fine. If you want a WOMAN, she won't be interested in the "bad boys." Many of us actually outgrow that stage. Yep, we do.

 

I'd imagine you guys are under 35, right?

 

Also, again, please don't think that your attitudes and your negativity don't come through when you meet a nice woman. Trust me. It does. Like I said, I could sniff it out even when I was in my 20's, and went running for the hills.

 

Until and unless guys like you and our OP here, lose the attitude, I can pretty much guarantee that you'll never meet a woman who will stay with you.

 

You can count on that.

 

But I'm being ignored, right?

 

What about women that lose the "spark" in a relationship? Who created that phrase anyway? Is it an easier way for saying the guy is too boring, not like a billy badass, huh?

[Touche]

What about women that lose the "spark" in a relationship? Who created that phrase anyway? Is it an easier way for saying the guy is too boring, not like a billy badass, huh?

 

Haha. Whenever I've said that in the past it was because I got sick and tired of the guy whining and/or acting jealous. So he became history.

 

Like I said I met my guy when I was 33. He's no wimp but he's no "billy badass" either. He treats me like gold. I treat him like gold. That's what you want.

 

But what do I know, right? I'm just some silly woman who feels like she is entitled to the "keys to the castle.":laugh: (Whatever the eff that means!)

[J2FT1]

Haha. Whenever I've said that in the past it was because I got sick and tired of the guy whining and/or acting jealous. So he became history.

 

Like I said I met my guy when I was 33. He's no wimp but he's no "billy badass" either. He treats me like gold. I treat him like gold. That's what you want.

 

But what do I know, right? I'm just some silly woman who feels like she is entitled to the "keys to the castle.":laugh: (Whatever the eff that means!)

 

I admit I don't know much, but I honestly don't think it's healthy to treat someone like gold or be treated like gold. Someday someone will tire, and when that happens, it will be like "omg, you used to do this, and that and made me feel like this, but now, there's no SPARK!":D

[Touche]

I admit I don't know much, but I honestly don't think it's healthy to treat someone like gold or be treated like gold. Someday someone will tire, and when that happens, it will be like "omg, you used to do this, and that and made me feel like this, but now, there's no SPARK!":D

 

Really? Wow. That's sad. I wonder when that will happen? My H and I will be celebrating our 13 year anniversary soon. I better warn him.

 

Look, in all seriousness, of course it's not like when we were first dating. Anyone who expects it to be that way after about 3 years or so is living in a dream world. It will never be that way.

 

But in other ways it gets better. We're each other's best friends still. And yes, sex is still great.

 

Do we come home panting and groping each other? No. But we're happy to see each other.

 

What you're talking about is a very immature kind of love. It's how I used to be too. It's how many of us are when we don't know any better.

 

As we get older and we mature, we look for someone who can be a life-long companion. Sure they have to turn us on but we realize that that part will fade a little. Some people just mistake that "fading" for losing the "spark." Not so. Love just gets deeper. It's not all about sex and passion. But that part can still be there too after many years. It's just up to the two people to keep that alive and to not let it die.

 

It takes two very mature people to get to that point though.

 

In all honesty, I don't think many people can achieve that state until they're into their 30's. And even after that, it's iffy. If you carry around baggage or you're bitter or have too many defenses up, forget it. You hardly stand a chance.

[J2FT1]

Really? Wow. That's sad. I wonder when that will happen? My H and I will be celebrating our 13 year anniversary soon. I better warn him.

 

Look, in all seriousness, of course it's not like when we were first dating. Anyone who expects it to be that way after about 3 years or so is living in a dream world. It will never be that way.

 

But in other ways it gets better. We're each other's best friends still. And yes, sex is still great.

 

Do we come home panting and groping each other? No. But we're happy to see each other.

 

What you're talking about is a very immature kind of love. It's how I used to be too. It's how many of us are when we don't know any better.

 

As we get older and we mature, we look for someone who can be a life-long companion. Sure they have to turn us on but we realize that that part will fade a little. Some people just mistake that "fading" for losing the "spark." Not so. Love just gets deeper. It's not all about sex and passion. But that part can still be there too after many years. It's just up to the two people to keep that alive and to not let it die.

 

It takes two very mature people to get to that point though.

 

In all honesty, I don't think many people can achieve that state until they're into their 30's. And even after that, it's iffy. If you carry around baggage or you're bitter or have too many defenses up, forget it. You hardly stand a chance.

 

This sounds good, and is probably true. I once read a quote saying "love is a ghost, many people talk about it, few ever see it." And with the divorce rate higher than the marriage rate, it doesn't sounds so crazy anymore.

[Touche]

This sounds good, and is probably true. I once read a quote saying "love is a ghost, many people talk about it, few ever see it." And with the divorce rate higher than the marriage rate, it doesn't sounds so crazy anymore.

 

Yes, sad isn't it? I think that's true too. That's why when we're lucky enough to find it, we should do everything we can to hold on to it. To nurture it. And to make it grow. But it takes two people to do that...two mature people. Two people who are on the same side and who don't fight each other or constantly doubt one another.

[JohnnyBlaze]

Better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

 

• What ever happened to falling in love and making a life together?
  
  • Some girls just aren't into that. Kinda like some guys aren't.
    

   

  [*] Why is it that every woman I meet has an agenda that doesn't include me?

  • An "agenda" that doesn't include you? Chances are, the ones that fit that category aren't dating you...since, after all, you're not part of their agenda.
    

   

  [*]Why are they all gold diggers?

  • They're not. Where are you looking? If you're only finding gold diggers, you're probably looking in the wrong place...or at the wrong people.
    

   

  [*]Why do they all have more issues than Nation Geographic?

  • Like us guys are any different? We just don't talk about it like they do, that's all.
    

   

  [*] Why do they thrive on drama when they claim to hate it?

  • It's an adrenaline rush. It's not quite skydiving, but it's a helluva lot safer.
    

   

  [*] Why do they require that men constantly keep them entertained?

  • Most girls just want you along when they hang out with their friends. The last girl that insisted I keep her constantly entertained was a 4 year old girl I was babysitting as a favour for a friend.
    

   

  [*] Why can't they keep themselves entertained?

  • Then they wouldn't need us around, now would they?
    

   

  [*] Why do they crap on the nice guy and love Billy Badass?

  • Admittedly, this is one I still don't know. Wish I did, though.
    

   

 

 

• Like I said, better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.
  
  • Finding a chick you want to take to bed is easy. Finding one you want to wake up with is another matter. It may be tougher, but I'll keep looking for the breakfast babe.
    

   

[J2FT1]

Finding a chick you want to take to bed is easy. Finding one you want to wake up with is another matter. It may be tougher, but I'll keep looking for the breakfast babe.

 

Great post. This is exactly how I feel. May I use this quote as my sig?

[GPFan]

Better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

 

What ever happened to falling in love and making a life together?

Why is it that every woman I meet has an agenda that doesn't include me? Why are they all gold diggers? Why do they all have more issues than Nation Geographic?

Why do they thrive on drama when they claim to hate it?

Why do they require that men constantly keep them entertained? Why can't they keep themselves entertained?

Why do they crap on the nice guy and love Billy Badass?

 

Like I said, better to just go for the sex and forget the rest.

Hi Fritz,

 

You have made some valid points in this thread. Life, in general, has gotten too complicated for many of us.

 

Excessive focus on money is a societal ill in my opinion. Affluenza is the latest term for it.

 

If you, yourself, are interested in adopting a simpler lifestyle then you might look around for groups or communities attempting to achieve this goal. You will have a better chance of meeting someone who's values are more in line with your own in these types of groups.

[JohnnyBlaze]

Great post. This is exactly how I feel. May I use this quote as my sig?

 

You are the first person I know of to use one of my quotes as a sig. Not only will I say go ahead, but I have to add that I am deeply honoured. Thanks, J2!

 

I don't remember if I heard it somewhere years ago and just don't remember where, or if it was a JB original, but I've been saying (and living) that line for years. Despite the friends I hang around, I've always been the 'weird' one. I've always looked for the special chick; my batting average never bothered me.

[Suiyobi]

Excellent post, Suiyobi.

 

Thanks, first time I got complemented for saying something here. I think... Lol thanks anyway.

 

To be fair though, I think us guys are just as complicated to women but on different matters. In the end, love (or at least, developing relationships) should be a worthwhile quest. It's one of the things that makes us human. If not, we might as well lose all sense of intelligence and become animals. I mean, most of the time all they do is eat, sleep, poo, and reproduce.