I heard from Denver guy

[johan]

+1,000,000 to this!

 

I think everyone concerned could do with a dose of your good sense Touche.

 

Everything is relative isn't it.

[Touche]

+1,000,000 to this!

 

I think everyone concerned could do with a dose of your good sense Touche.

 

Hey, thanks CE!

 

I find this thread to be dark and depressing. Ariadne is unhelpable. Anyone who thinks they can help by reasoning with her has not really read what she has written. Unless you have some very strong ropes and you're nearby her, the only help you can really provide is prayer. And I honestly suggest that.

 

Continuing to post on this thread really only serves to fan the flames and keep the obsession alive. You're becoming part of the problem. I seriously recommend that anyone who actually cares should just back off and let nature take its course. Whether you think that outcome is desirable or not should be a concern, but is secondary to the fact that there is nothing you can actually do except to help accelerate it.

 

 

Yada, yada, whatever...blah, blah.

[Lookingforward]

:lmao: Too effing funny! Besides, who would buy margarine with DG's pic on it? If I were to buy margarine I'd want something that would make me want to eat it, you know.

 

Ok, this I don't get:

 

well to quote cher..."women fight over nothing, then marry him"

 

What does that mean, Looking? I've never fought over a man in my life. Do women really do that? Wow.

 

apparently

[Touche]

apparently

 

I've never met a man worth fighting over.

 

The guy either wanted me or he didn't.

 

Are you listening, A? (Oh and are you listening too, Doll? I mean come ON! If the guy can't commit after 17 years you just got get a clue you know...oh and why on earth did you even want him in the first place?:sick:)

[sb129]

PPHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEWWWW.

 

What a thread. What links! Such pictures! I am going to be late for work, but this beats big brother hands down any day.

 

Dollgirlfriend- sorry for calling you weird and creepy. Dolls (and puppets and clowns etc) are really not my thing and freak me out a little, but each to their own.

 

Anyway, can't really say much, gotta dash but..... Oh.My.God.

 

The pants, the hair, the muscles, the NARCISSISM, I can't believe it.

 

I am in shock really.

[ahah2322]

i am addicted to this real-life drama. i'm hoping that it's not real and that everyone in the forum were duped- because it's even more sad if this was real. A, you're mentally unstable and i wish you all the best in life. you're obviously turning a deaf ear to all the good advice and contiunally indulging in those fantasies of yours. well, you're no princess. in real life, you're the sad, ugly, lonely and old woman.

[Ariadne]

So...

 

I read all of her posts again, and this is what I got out of it:

 

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Immediately after we broke up, he took the forwarding off your emails so he could hear from you again.

 

I am also surprised that he wrote to you.

 

We had long, long talks about it after he handed the emails over to me.

 

We haven't shared a bed in two years, so that's nothing new.

 

I KNEW he was completely emotionally unavailable.

 

... yeah, okay now I'm bitter and more than a little pissed off.

 

When he gets back from his bike ride and reads this he's going to FLIP.

 

I did show him the picture of your little "shrine". I think he found it flattering.

 

How much HE was enjoying being the victim of the horrible woman who wouldn't let his dearest email him.

 

He's not going to invite you out. Not right now.

 

You just feed his ego and say nice things to him and make him feel all manly and successful.

 

THAT is why he's emailing you, Ariadne. Not out of love, but because you mean nothing to him.

 

Ariadne just can't wrap her mind around that I'm not the reason he's not emailing her.

 

DG, I can't help with. I've been trying to get her to see him for what he is for years, and it's not working.

 

The first thing DG did, upon our breaking up, was take the forwarding off and start talking to Ariadne again.

 

I understand why. She feeds his ego, and I get that.

 

He knew you emailed a couple of times, because I would ask him "Did you update your blog?"

 

You were the one who wanted to bait the crazy lady again.

 

I can only hope that someday, the girls he tells horrible stories about ME will know better.

 

I might have to stay on this forum just to hear Ariadne report the horrible stories he tells her about me.

 

Not so much on the still friends part. Not so much on the nice guy part. No, actually, he's a total schmuck. I have got to get out of here.

 

It took me two years of living with him. Sounds like it was two years for OHWL too... so maybe A needs two years

 

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Oh, I love him!!! :love:

[D-Lish]

i am addicted to this real-life drama. i'm hoping that it's not real and that everyone in the forum were duped- because it's even more sad if this was real. A, you're mentally unstable and i wish you all the best in life. you're obviously turning a deaf ear to all the good advice and contiunally indulging in those fantasies of yours. well, you're no princess. in real life, you're the sad, ugly, lonely and old woman.

 

You're no princess either my dear- you're actually quite mean.

[Nevermind]

Oh, I love him!!! :love:

 

Can you explain why those quotes make you happy?

[Ariadne]

Can you explain why those quotes make you happy?

 

Well, those quotes to me constitute the key of this talk.

[Nevermind]

Yes, you said that. But what makes you happy about them?

[Ariadne]

Yes, you said that. But what makes you happy about them?

 

I didn't say they made me happy.

 

But they do make me kind of happy.

 

I get a good energy from those quotes.

[Nevermind]

Okay, so what do those quotes tell you that make you go all lovey?

 

What is the good vibe?

[ahah2322]

You're no princess either my dear- you're actually quite mean.

 

i'm not the most sensitive person, D. i was hoping that a little tough-talk can do the trick. it's really sad how she shuts out all the good advice offered on this board.

[Krytie TV]

*Takes a deep breath, stretches, and applauds firmly*

 

Well, I just took an hour to read through this from beginning to end, along with some side tracks to find the blog and pictures and treehouse stuff. This has been one of the most surreal, interesting, and morbidly entertaining threads I've ever read. Reality is stranger than fiction. Oh Ariadne... have you ever seen the movie "Play Misty for Me"?

[Event Horizon]

I swear to god you chicks have got me completely addicted to this website

[tinke]

You may guise this charade as being a hopeless romantic, but what I find most disturbing is the fact that you do not acknowledge these behaviors as unusual, humiliating, alarming.

 

Very sorry, but I do not believe your son would be proud of the fact that you are reaching out to grasp any crumbs of attention that DG may toss to you (from a distance).

It's sad! You are the role model for your son and his future relationships.

 

Would you REALLY feel good about the fact that he would repeat your behavior?

Furthermore, how can he respect you, if you fail to respect yourself? Your actions are not romantic, they are undignified. It is one thing to hope he will recognize you, maybe alert him to your feelings..but let it go!

 

From your posts, you must be consumed with this. And what is THIS? It is puffs of wishes.

Do you work? Have anything healthy to occupy your idle hours?

How about spending more quality time with your son. I just cannot imagine he feels good about alll this!

please, respect him and yourself!

[Nevermind]

I don't think Ariadne has a mental problem. She is so open about the fact that all of her feelings are just a fantasy, that I think she is doing it on her own will. As I said before: it's the safe way out. No caring about anything needed, no responsibilities...

 

She has shown this before and she is showing it now: Ariadne has no interest in living her own life. She wants other to take control. Example: She has been asking her son for explicit directions on how to deal with life and lovers since the kid has been 14 (and this is just what I read on this forum).

 

If it wouldn't be Denver Guy, it would be somebody else, or a couple of people. He just happens to enjoy the drama and thus he really became Ariadne's perfect match.

 

It's not so much running to him as running from life.

[sb129]

well, you're no princess. in real life, you're the sad, ugly, lonely and old woman.

 

Well that was uncalled for.

Especially from a pampered 19 year old.

i was hoping that a little tough-talk can do the trick.

 

There is a difference between "tough talk" and being downright nasty and insulting.

 

I think Ariadne is far from ugly. And she isn't old either.

[bootylicious]

Man, it took me over 45 minutes to read the rest of this thread!

 

Ariadne, I am a psychology graduate and while I did respond earlier in this thread, I went off and did some reading and DG does show classic signs of NPD like TrialByFire has pointed out.

 

I thought this bit in the website that I found described DG well:

 

NPD is a type of psychological personality disorder characterized by grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy. Narcissism occurs in a spectrum of severity, but the pathologically narcissistic tend primarily be men (75%) who are extremely self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ perspectives, insensitive to others’ needs and indifferent to the effect of their own egocentric behavior.

 

I wish you could see that this man cares about no one but himself. He is selfish, arrogant and in love with himself. This man is not capable of loving anyone else because it is not in his nature to. He is using you to feed his ego because his now ex GF has stopped giving him the attention that he wanted. You were not needed during that period which is why he never responded to your emails.

 

He enjoys women fighting over him because it makes him feel manly and the fact that he knows that your life has been ruined countless times due to his obsession for him shows that he is not the great person you are making him out to be. If he really cared about you, he would let you be and encourage you to move on in your life because he can't give you what you need. He does the complete opposite. Is this what the behaviour of a "soulmate" is supposed to be?

 

Please get some help. Talk to someone because LS is not enough. Speaking to someone face-to-face is a lot different than talking to a bunch of people on the internet. There is only so much advice we can give you. I really hope that you take the advice given to you on board and step away from the fantasy and analyse this whole situation. The day you post that you are over DG and dating other men will make me and many other LSers very happy.

 

The fact that two of his ex GFs have come on here and told us about what his personality is really like should tell you that this guy is bad news. Please wake up from this fantasy.

 

I wish you all the luck in the world and hope you have the strength to get over this and become a stronger human being. As I have stated earlier, you deserve so much better than this.

[Trialbyfire]

While I'm more than happy to provide NPD links, the diagnosis wasn't mine. It was previously mentioned within this thread by one of his ex-g/fs and with another member, off-thread.

 

Just wanted to clear that up.

[sb129]

NPD is a type of psychological personality disorder characterized by grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy. Narcissism occurs in a spectrum of severity, but the pathologically narcissistic tend primarily be men (75%) who are extremely self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ perspectives, insensitive to others’ needs and indifferent to the effect of their own egocentric behavior.

 

I agree with you Bootylicious.

 

You only need to look at the guys website to work out that the above statement fits him to a T, never mind all the other stuff that Ariadne and the exes have said about him. He is a poster boy for NPD, in fact he seems more into himself than Narcissus was.

 

The guy repulses me. His website is simply abhorrent. I have never seen something so self absorbed and narcissistic in my life.

[ahah2322]

I think Ariadne is far from ugly. And she isn't old either.

 

well, i don't think so too. sometimes i get consumed with strong emotions that i don't really process the information i end up conveying. in retrospect, i was a little too harsh. and it's uncalled for, 19 or not. thank you for keeping me in check.

 

i need that to make me a more sensitive and considerate person.

 

A, i wish that you will stop WANTING to live your make-believe 'lala' land. i know that you know this is all a fantasy. and this is the disturbing part. embrace (and accept) the reality and actually put in effort to make it too-good-to-be-true, how 'bout that?

[Touche]

I agree with you Bootylicious.

 

You only need to look at the guys website to work out that the above statement fits him to a T, never mind all the other stuff that Ariadne and the exes have said about him. He is a poster boy for NPD, in fact he seems more into himself than Narcissus was.

The guy repulses me. His website is simply abhorrent. I have never seen something so self absorbed and narcissistic in my life.

 

Too funny, SB!

 

I agree 100%. I love the line about "stay tuned for my next blog entry" or some such thing. Oh yeah. I'll be on the edge of my seat until your next posting. zzzzzzzzz

 

Man I swear, Ariadne. I don't get what you see in this Frankenstein look-alike.

[sb129]

well, i don't think so too. sometimes i get consumed with strong emotions that i don't really process the information i end up conveying. in retrospect, i was a little too harsh. and it's uncalled for, 19 or not. thank you for keeping me in check.

 

i need that to make me a more sensitive and considerate person.

 

A, i wish that you will stop WANTING to live your make-believe 'lala' land. i know that you know this is all a fantasy. and this is the disturbing part. embrace (and accept) the reality and actually put in effort to make it too-good-to-be-true, how 'bout that?

 

 

I think an apology would be sufficient.