I heard from Denver guy

[marlena]

Oh how we laughed,

 

If you don't mind my asking, at whose expense did you (plural) laugh? Curious choice of screen name, I'd say.

[blind_otter]

 

"One looks handsome today, doesn't one- how YOU doin?".

 

I saw his site this morning and after I saw the house pictures I pretty much knew how the rest of his site would be. Self-aggrandizing.

 

I was reminded of buffalo bill's famous "Would you f*ck me? I'd f*ck me." line from Silence of the Lambs.

 

Anyways isn't it a bit dangerous to post so much personal info? He even has his baby pictures on his site for god's sake. What's to stop any random crazy from finding his house near Denver and lighting it on fire or something worse?

[Taramere]

And here I am looking pensive as I reflect on my godliness.

 

I think I know the type.

 

Ever wonder what can happen if you leave me in a dark room with only a camera and a single lightbulb?

 

I had an inkling, but I never would have guessed flexing and masturbation was such labour intensive work.

 

Congratulations, Ariadne. We're all obsessed by Denver Guy now. Just kidding - don't shoot! (That was to DG by the way, not you Ariadne. I'm just a tad unnerved by the sweat and shadow picture of his face).

[melodymatters]

Congratulations, Ariadne. We're all obsessed by Denver Guy now. Just kidding - don't shoot! (That was to DG by the way, not you Ariadne. I'm just a tad unnerved by the sweat and shadow picture of his face).

 

:lmao: My whole family is in on this now, who needs cable TV !?!

 

 

 

I know there is no getting through to you A, so I will just give you a hug, and tell you to remember to take care of yourself for your sons sake if not your own. LS will be here for you when this fantasy unravels. {hug}

[Trialbyfire]

It does matter IMO. I really question how much the exes are really trying to help Ariadne. I really do.

 

I am incensed that her photos are on one of the blogs and if it were me, I would be contacting an attorney to see what rights if any, I would have in getting those photos down.

 

I am really worried about Ariadne's mental health and what will happen when she finally realizes what f*cktards these people really are. God knows, we haven't been able to get through to her.

Help can come from strange places if it can break the obsession.

 

I'll steer clear of any comments of legalities or references to such.

 

In order to fix your problem, you have to first admit you have a problem and then seek help if it's not something you can do on your own. I don't see this happening soon.

[Kasan]

As awful as this all is, I am happily surprised at the amount of people on this site who really give a sh*t about Ariadne, and are trying to support her anyway that they can.

[sunshinegirl]

It does matter IMO. I really question how much the exes are really trying to help Ariadne. I really do.

 

I wonder if it's a way for the ex-fiancee to work out some of her own emotional turmoil / feelings about the relationship. Maybe A's obsession helps legitimize the fact that the guy in question is a narcissistic user...whereas before maybe she was still blaming herself at some level or wondering whether he really was the problem? Now, she can be really really sure he is absolutely a messed up person.

 

It's one theory, anyway. Otherwise I'm not sure why she would suddenly want to help someone that she was previously very afraid of.

[Art_Critic]

Anyways isn't it a bit dangerous to post so much personal info? He even has his baby pictures on his site for god's sake. What's to stop any random crazy from finding his house near Denver and lighting it on fire or something worse?

 

I was wondering the same thing....

He doesn't even try to make it tough to figure out where he lives or who he is.. He broadcasts the info on the internet..

30 secs is all it takes..

 

Any craze obsessed fan could just knock on his door and introduce themselves...

 

Since he has to be reading this thread maybe he will remove some of the identifying stuff he has out there..

The guy has his own ISP and servers so he knows all about the internet and it's pitfalls

[Touche]

I think it's an act. How much could she really want to help A? She won't take the pictures down. That's really low of you Wendy. You want to take her out to lunch and stay in the guest bedroom though right?

 

Jeeezzzz...at least Ariadne admits how messed up this is.

 

Oh and thanks a LOT Taramere. You made me look and now I can't rid myself of those scary images. How will I be able to sleep tonight?

[marlena]

You want to take her out to lunch and stay in the guest bedroom though right?

 

 

I hope A doesn't fall into that trap.

[Touche]

I hope A doesn't fall into that trap.

 

Nah, the woman may be a little deluded when it comes to that I-cant-believe-it's-not-butter wannabe but she isn't stupid. She sees through Wendy's nonsense, I'm sure.

[tinktronik]

I think it's an act. How much could she really want to help A? She won't take the pictures down. That's really low of you Wendy. You want to take her out to lunch and stay in the guest bedroom though right?

 

Jeeezzzz...at least Ariadne admits how messed up this is.

 

Oh and thanks a LOT Taramere. You made me look and now I can't rid myself of those scary images. How will I be able to sleep tonight?

 

Why should the ex or ex's want anything to do with A? W did not come here out of the blue to be supportive. She came here b/c this is something that continues to disrupt her life.

[sunshinegirl]

I think it's an act. How much could she really want to help A? She won't take the pictures down. That's really low of you Wendy. You want to take her out to lunch and stay in the guest bedroom though right?

 

I don't really see why Wendy should be demonized here. She has not had anything like the experience other LSers have had with Ariadne. People on here feel protective of A because they have gotten to 'know' her on LS in a totally different way than Wendy has. Wendy's had, it seems, some scary/disturbing real life experience with A; the rest of us are faceless internet acquaintances of hers who see a benign harmless part of her...the part she chooses to show on this site.

 

I'm not delegitimizing the instinct to protect A and criticize W, I just don't see it as necessary or fair or appropriate. I think W did what she felt she had to do to stay safe; I think the nude pics thing is a judgment call. But I WILL say that hell, any photos of you out there on the internet that YOU circulated to begin with, are de facto no longer within your control. If you don't want stuff like this to happen, keep your photos offline in the first place. And, oh yeah, don't stalk/threaten people! Jeez.

[Touche]

Why should the ex or ex's want anything to do with A? W did not come here out of the blue to be supportive. She came here b/c this is something that continues to disrupt her life.

 

I don't think so. Ariadne did not stay in touch over the last two years. Now that they're broken up, something she had nothing to do with, she contacted him.

 

I don't see how Ariadne is continuing to disrupt her life. Her life was disrupted from the moment she decided to move in with her egotistical b/f.

[Art_Critic]

She sees through Wendy's nonsense, I'm sure.

 

I'm curious as to what nonsense you are talking about here ?...

 

I read all of Wendy's posts and I didn't read any nonsense.. She was upfront and honest and tried everything she could to get Ariadne to see him for what he is..

 

The picture thing isn't Wendy's downfall.. albeit if she wanted to do Ariadne a favor she could take them down.. but remember why she told us she put the pics up there and why she told us she won't remove them...

Even the local law enforcement officers had seen those pictures and had her put up the over 18 warning.

 

Wendy's downfall is the same as Ariadne's.. She fell for a creep.. It seems he has a harem full of women that suffer from the same downfall...

 

I applaud Wendy and the other ex ( I forgot her name ) for coming on here and airing her dirty laundry in this thread..

I can't imagine it was easy for her either..

 

She mentioned in a post that she was helped by this thread herself.. She seemed to me to be working thru some stuff too..

She was also trying to help Ariadne..

We ALL have tried to help Ariadne...

[Kasan]

I don't really see why Wendy should be demonized here. She has not had anything like the experience other LSers have had with Ariadne. People on here feel protective of A because they have gotten to 'know' her on LS in a totally different way than Wendy has. Wendy's had, it seems, some scary/disturbing real life experience with A; the rest of us are faceless internet acquaintances of hers who see a benign harmless part of her...the part she chooses to show on this site.

 

This is where I disagree about Wendy's so called help. Wendy has maintained all along that she is done with DG and that Ariadne is no threat to her.

 

If this is the case, why do the pictures need to still be up on the web given the fact that the photos were originally sent to DG? Why does Wendy feel that it is still necessary to have them on her blog? Why won't she take them down?

 

Just sayin......

[Art_Critic]

This is where I disagree about Wendy's so called help. Wendy has maintained all along that she is done with DG and that Ariadne is no threat to her.

 

If this is the case, why do the pictures need to still be up on the web given the fact that the photos were originally sent to DG? Why does Wendy feel that it is still necessary to have them on her blog? Why won't she take them down?

 

Just sayin......

I do think she could take them down and not hurt the integrity of the message on the website.. but it is up to her.. her website..

 

She might be doing out of spite.. who knows..

 

We are all focused on the pictures when they are not the focus of the big issues..

Focusing on Wendy and the pictures detracts away from the message of Wendy posting here to Ariadne..

[Kasan]

I do think she could take them down and not hurt the integrity of the message on the website.. but it is up to her.. her website..

 

She might be doing out of spite.. who knows..

 

We are all focused on the pictures when they are not the focus of the big issues..

Focusing on Wendy and the pictures detracts away from the message of Wendy posting here to Ariadne..

 

I totally hear what you are saying Art, I really do.

 

Sometimes it's hard to hear the message from someone who has your best interests when they are doing something hateful to you at the same time.

 

That is my issue with the offered "helping hand."

[sb129]

I am incensed that her photos are on one of the blogs and if it were me, I would be contacting an attorney to see what rights if any, I would have in getting those photos down.

 

Me too. Esp if most of LS was looking at them.

 

:lmao: My whole family is in on this now, who needs cable TV !?!

 

Or big brother?

 

I don't really see why Wendy should be demonized here. She has not had anything like the experience other LSers have had with Ariadne. People on here feel protective of A because they have gotten to 'know' her on LS in a totally different way than Wendy has. Wendy's had, it seems, some scary/disturbing real life experience with A; the rest of us are faceless internet acquaintances of hers who see a benign harmless part of her...the part she chooses to show on this site.

 

I'm not delegitimizing the instinct to protect A and criticize W, I just don't see it as necessary or fair or appropriate. I think W did what she felt she had to do to stay safe; I think the nude pics thing is a judgment call. But I WILL say that hell, any photos of you out there on the internet that YOU circulated to begin with, are de facto no longer within your control. If you don't want stuff like this to happen, keep your photos offline in the first place. And, oh yeah, don't stalk/threaten people! Jeez.

 

Some good points SunshineGirl, and I do agree with them.

You can't deny that if Ariadne hadn't sent him the pics in the first place, they wouldn't be where they are now. Some of Ariadnes behaviour I find extremely disturbing, and if one of my friends was doing that i would be very concerned indeed.

 

If one of my friends had to deal with her BF being stalked I would be worried too, however after 3years, I think I would be prepared to lay it all to rest!

 

I appreciate that Wendy may have found Ariadnes "attentions" at the time very disconcerting and difficult to deal with, and to be fair, most of us have heard one side of the story for a long time now.

 

I just think if she was genuinely interested in helping Ariadne get over DG, she would let bygones be bygones now that she isn't with DG anymore, and take the pictures down.

 

She also has quite a different tone on her blog than the one on here, so part of me wonders if she isn't actually enjoying the fact that she has exposed (pardon the pun) Ariadne a little bit more, on the online community where Ariadne spends so much time.

 

She has linked this site with hers- so now all the people who read her blog know who Ariadne is and so on and so forth- how is further humiliation/ scorn helping someone?

 

Its just going to snowball from here..

 

This is where I disagree about Wendy's so called help. Wendy has maintained all along that she is done with DG and that Ariadne is no threat to her.

 

If this is the case, why do the pictures need to still be up on the web given the fact that the photos were originally sent to DG? Why does Wendy feel that it is still necessary to have them on her blog? Why won't she take them down?

 

Just sayin......

 

Quite.

[sb129]

I think if it were me (god forbid) I would be more inclined to listen to Wendys advice if she extended the olive branch of taking the pictures down.

 

Wendy HAS given A some excellent insight into the reality that is DenverGuy, as have some of the other exes.

 

Ariadne is oblivious to anyone elses thoughts but her own though.

That is the crux of the whole sorry mess really.

[marlena]

I don't think so. Ariadne did not stay in touch over the last two years. Now that they're broken up, something she had nothing to do with, she contacted him.

 

I don't see how Ariadne is continuing to disrupt her life. Her life was disrupted from the moment she decided to move in with her egotistical b/f.

 

I agree with this. She left them alone for two years.

 

 

I read all of Wendy's posts and I didn't read any nonsense.. She was upfront and honest and tried everything she could to get Ariadne to see him for what he is..

 

 

Sorry, Art. I just don't buy into this. This reminds me of that internet prank that led to a young girl's suicide. Sick people play sick jokes. That blog site of DG and his grotesque pictures have me convinced that these "others" are way over the top.

[Trialbyfire]

In removing the focus away from Ariadne and Denver Guy and throwing anger towards the exes, we divert our resources from someone who needs it. Demonizing the ex will only give fuel to Ariadne, to not believe a word of what the ex is telling her. This will continue to fuel the fantasy about what a god this man is (NOT).

[marlena]

She also has quite a different tone on her blog than the one on here, so part of me wonders if she isn't actually enjoying the fact that she has exposed (pardon the pun) Ariadne a little bit more, on the online community where Ariadne spends so much time.

 

 

Precisely. She didn't have to add this to her blog today if she really meant well. There is something terribly askew with the whole picture. Dangerous stuff, IMO.

[marlena]

She has linked this site with hers- so now all the people who read her blog know who Ariadne is and so on and so forth- how is further humiliation/ scorn helping someone?

 

 

Yes, definitely, a contradiction. It is so blatantly obvious. At least it is to me. And this Laughingourheadsoff supposedly ex-girlfriend of DG. Come on, this is a dead giveaway. They are all probably sitting in that "parlor" having a good laugh at humiliating A even more. Now the whole world can read her threads! Some people are just plain SICK! DG's whole blog is SICK.

[sunshinegirl]

I agree with this. She left them alone for two years.

 

I thought she DID contact him during those two years but that DG put a forward on the emails to Wendy, and Wendy never told him about them?

 

OMG, I can't believe I've gotten sucked into this thread.