Author Ariadne Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 A., This guy has a mansion-like home, antiques, money...what does the average woman have to offer? What is it about YOU that leads you to believe there can be a sustaining relationship? Because he may have shared some attention? Affluent people tend to keep in their circle, so, why you? I am just going by the fact that you slept in your car VS motel, so I am led to believe you are not loaded with cash. Does any of this make sense to you? Yeah... I'm like the Mexican Cinderella here. But in my dream that doesn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ariadne Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Affluent people tend to keep in their circle, so, why you? Here is a post from Denver guy on that topic, joking aside: --------------- People tend to get caught up in the mindset that "contributing" to a relationship is all a matter of money and cars and hours spent apart, and I think that can cloud your vision about a whole lot of things that really do matter. In light of my particular circumstances, you might well think, "sure, that's easy for you to say"--and, in a way, that was sort of the point. One of my goals early on was to make money *not* be an issue, and so the experience of life would be made up of dreams and desires, imagination and enjoyment--not a daily series of struggles and compromises with the credit cards, the mortgage, and what had to be done in pursuit of the paycheck. But at least from that perspective, passion and dreams and the capacity for joy are as great a contribution towards a life together as the roof over your heads and the food on the table. Most people's lives are somewhere in between--the credit cards are still something you have to pay attention to, and there's a little more that needs to be done besides fulfilling your passions and dreams, but you still need to take the time for those too and value them all the same. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ariadne Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 And on a similar note, from DG: ------------- >The amount you're making in just one year for twiddling >your thumbs is comparable to the amount she will probably earn in her >entire life groveling before the corporate machine. That's >enough money to make hooking up with you completely unlike hooking >up with any man of average wealth. But, you see, it's not. Exotic vacations and expensive jewelry and luxury cars are a very small part of life. Most of life is made up of the arms you want to feel holding you, the face you want to see every day when you come home, kisses, kind words and someone who understands you and how you feel when you're up and when you're down, the way you want someone to make you feel just by being together, shared glances and hopes and thoughts that go into building a life that lasts long after your frequent flyer miles have been forgotten. If you aren't the one who wears the smile she wants to see when she wakes up in the morning, then it doesn't matter whether you've got ten million dollars or ten cents to your name, it won't matter whether the bed you're offering to share is the ultimate in opulent comfort with the mountains on the left and the jacuzzi on the right--or an old futon on a dusty floor. Million-dollar houses or at-their-limit credit cards are just incidental decorations that come (or don't come) with the person you want to be with. It's the life with the person you want to be with that's totally unlike the life with the person you don't, at least in the ways that end up really making a difference. That's not to knock the value of having a few million bucks to rub together--I think wealth can do a lot to enhance your enjoyment of life, but you have to have the life you enjoy first, and just taking a situation that isn't what would make you happy and throwing money at it won't make it fundamentally different. Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Ariadne: When I spoke about your son I was referring to threads from you that are a couple of years old. You were asking him for dating advice when he was 15. When you drove to Denver he must have been around 14, if not younger. I don't need to say anything else. This speaks volumes. Poor kid. Edit: Am I the only one who thinks that most of the antigues are actually just old furniture with no real value? And ugly as hell. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ariadne Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hey guys, this is D. Ariadne's son. I am talking about the time my mom went to Denver to see Denver guy. To be honest I didn't really care, I have known my mom my whole life that's just the way she is, she is a little weird but I love her anyway and I was 16 when she went. Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hi, Ariadne's son! Just one question. Do you not think that this obsession is bad for your mother? Wouldn't she be better off if she got over this DG? Take care of eachother. OK? Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Would anyone mind (and be able) to objectively summarize this thread for me? Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hey guys, this is D. Ariadne's son. I am talking about the time my mom went to Denver to see Denver guy. To be honest I didn't really care, I have known my mom my whole life that's just the way she is, she is a little weird but I love her anyway and I was 16 when she went. Oh dear Lord. Another voice of yours Ariadne? How very convenient. Seriously Tony, you have closed threads for alot less than this. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ariadne Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 ............... Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Would anyone mind (and be able) to objectively summarize this thread for me? Sorry, Star. I wouldn't know where to begin. I am afraid that you will have to wade through the whole 45 pages. Maybe someone else out there is up to the job. Good luck to whoever takes on this Herculean feat! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Ariadne Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hi, Ariadne's son! Just one question. Do you not think that this obsession is bad for your mother? Wouldn't she be better off if she got over this DG? Take care of eachother. OK?Is it bad for my mother, who knows? It gets her very excited and happy at times and it gives her something to talk about. It can't be too bad, as long as she doesn't get fired from work it's really not a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Is it bad for my mother, who knows? It gets her very excited and happy at times and it gives her something to talk about. It can't be too bad, as long as she doesn't get fired from work it's really not a problem. If it doesn't upset her, OK then. Like I said, look after eachother (which I am sure you do anyway). Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Star- 1. Ariadne learns that DenverGuy has broken up with his live in GF, Wendy. 2. Ariadne emails DenverGuy (henceforth to be known as DG) 3. DG emails back a couple of non committal, blase emails about work and the weather 4. Ariadne decides that this is a further sign that they are meant to be together and renews this train of thought with fervour 5. Various LSers try to convince her this is not the case 6. DGs exGF Wendy logs into Loveshack and tries to convince Ariadne this is not the case, and also sheds further light on the reality that is DG, Ariadnes stalking. Enough info is given so that most LSers can find Wendys blog, and DGs website. 7. A small fight ensues between Marlena and Wendy seeing as Wendy still has naked pics of Ariadne on her website and won't take them down, yet purports to want to help Ariadne see that DG is a loser. Wendys blog about LS is scathing. 8. Most LSers who look at DGs site draw their own conclusions that DG is indeed a bit of a loser and an exceptionally narcissistic one at that. Much hilarity regarding his pictures in particular. 9. Another on of DGs exes logs into LS and says she is embarrassed that she used to date him. (I think there could have been another ex log in too?) 10. Wendy still lives with DG, yet Ariadne thinks that she knows him better than Wendy does, and ignores all advice and comments given by any LSers. 11. Ariadne is still in love with her mythical perception of DG, won't listen to anyone else that tries to convince her otherwise, and is still convinced that they will be together one day as soulmates once he realises this. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Wendys blog says today that LS helped her to see that she was doing the right thing by not being with DG anymore. She says she is done here but that in general the LSers helped her alot. DG has some other woman living there too. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 DG has some other woman living there too. Weird. Weirder than weird. If this were all true and she really wanted out, she would open that door and just walk out. Heck, I did that to a man and he was my husband and the father of my child!!! I say BS big time!!! Oh, and she called us all "stalkers" here on LS!! Yeah, OK, sure!!! She said she would never revisit the site. I bet she is reading this as I type. Oh, well, she did take down the pictures of A (not that she can't put them up again any time)! Some people like to play mind games on the Web and IRL! To them, I say grow up ! Sb19, Congrats on the summary! Well done!! Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 (I think there could have been another ex log in too?) Yes, there was and her screen name was laughingourheadsoff. Now, if that doesn't say it all, I don't know what does. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Yes, there was and her screen name was laughingourheadsoff. Now, if that doesn't say it all, I don't know what does. Yes, she was the real estate agent. There was also some woman Darlene? The lawyer? He has something oging on with her too. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Weirder than weird. If this were all true and she really wanted out, she would open that door and just walk out. Heck, I did that to a man and he was my husband and the father of my child!!! I say BS big time!!! Oh, and she called us all "stalkers" here on LS!! Yeah, OK, sure!!! She said she would never revisit the site. I bet she is reading this as I type. Oh, well, she did take down the pictures of A (not that she can't put them up again any time)! Some people like to play mind games on the Web and IRL! To them, I say grow up ! Sb19, Congrats on the summary! Well done!! She took down the pictures.. good.. Before people were saying that she wasn't to be believed because she still had the pictures up.. Now they are down and she still isn't to be believed ? Why not ? Link to post Share on other sites
tinke Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 The summary from supposedly DG about money, etc., if it is true, again..why YOU? I hope for your own sake, this isn't sooo twisted that you are writing under different names. It simply doesn't add up. Why would an affluent, successful man many miles away, pick YOU to pair up with? It is not like you 're there in his everyday life and he is growing fonder of you. You've met but only a few times throughout years. Personally, I myself, do not believe he wrote any of that to you, I believe it is part of your delusion. If so, this is very sick, do you see that? And now your son? IF, and I say IF it is him writing, WHY, WHY, WHY would you involve him even further in this masquerade? Is he parenting you? The more I read on this thread, the more I believe intervention is called for. You flippedly repeat "it is a part of my fantasy". Well then keep it a private fantasy, and stop involving others. Let your son enjoy his youthful times without coaching YOU. Seriously, seek some help. Link to post Share on other sites
marlena Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 a) the tone of her posts b) she should have taken them down long before c) too many exes showing up - especially laughingourheadsoff - I wonder who they are d) providing a link to LS (totally unecessary unless it were to humiliate A even more) e) she is on the rebound and sounds angry that DG responded to A f) inviting her over and offering to vacuum (very sarcastic) g) still living in that grotesque House of Horrors h) calling us stalkers i) my gut feeling ... just to name a few. Anyway, what's important is that A sees the light and comes to her senses. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hey guys, this is D. Ariadne's son. I am talking about the time my mom went to Denver to see Denver guy. To be honest I didn't really care, I have known my mom my whole life that's just the way she is, she is a little weird but I love her anyway and I was 16 when she went. Is it bad for my mother, who knows? It gets her very excited and happy at times and it gives her something to talk about. It can't be too bad, as long as she doesn't get fired from work it's really not a problem. Hi A's son.. I know you love your mom, but you need to help her see the DG is not "the one" for her. She has an unhealthy obsession for him, she is living in a fantasy. This man is NOT who he appears to be and she's been told this by two of his ex girlfriends. She chooses NOT to believe them and thinks she knows him well. It is just unhealthy for HER to be so attached to a man who wants NOTHING to do with her, except to mess with her head. Can you PLEASE try to see the other side of this? Be objective, take a step back and think about this situation? Yes, you want to see your mom happy, but her loving DG and obesessing about him IS hurting her, preventing her from letting go and finding a man who WILL love her for real. I can see things and draw my own conclusions. But it was nice to know of some facts A, what conclusions have you come to about DG? Now you have some facts, do you think it's possible that he isn't who you thought he was? Or do you STILL believe he's into you and it's only a matter of time before he comes looking for you? Link to post Share on other sites
Kasan Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 She took down the pictures.. good.. Before people were saying that she wasn't to be believed because she still had the pictures up.. Now they are down and she still isn't to be believed ? Why not ? Well...........I just happened over there and the pictures are still up! Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 She's taken down the naked pictures. Though she needs to take down the lingerie shots as well... Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Well...........I just happened over there and the pictures are still up! The link to the nude pictures is gone.. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 She's taken down the naked pictures. Though she needs to take down the lingerie shots as well... Why is everyone saying they're down? I just looked and they're still there. She's as big a phony as DG is. At first I thought she was genuine but no. On one hand she says LS helped her and on the other hand she calls us all stalkers and that she has no need for a "romance forum" anymore at this point in her life. As to all that stuff A about DG's childhood. So what? As someone pointed out already many of us were teased and had it rough growing up. I was one of them. And when I was in my 20's I kind of got a big head since I changed my looks, gained weight, etc. But come ON..the guy is in his 40's now. He was supposed to outgrow that crap. There's a happy medium between no self-esteem and arrogance you know. This guy hasn't found that balance. Maybe when he gets more wrinkled and loses more hair that will knock him out his high horse. And the only other thing I wanted to add is to the poster, and I'm sorry but I'm too lazy to see who it was, who keeps saying why Ariadne? Why would this rich guy go after HER? That's so stupid. Why NOT her? She's obviously very intelligent and very unique. Why do you think so many care about what happens to her? If it were anyone else, this thread would have died long ago. No one would care. So in my opinion, you need to stop insulting A in that way. But having said that A, I don't want to give you hope here. There's no hope of this turning into any kind of relationship as I see it. As long as you're fine with it being a fantasy, so be it. I just hate to see you put your life on hold for this. That's the part that bothers me where you're concerned. Link to post Share on other sites
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