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Ariadne... Evidently this is his Ex posting.. How do you feel now that you hear her side ?

 

What other things do you want to ask her ?

 

Well, it's been very interesting and surprising. :confused:

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Can anyone say troll?

 

Nobody is this crazy.

 

Nobody.

 

Not a troll post WA. Definitely not .

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Walking away
This is no troll...

 

This is serious.

 

We cannot fix this. She needs help now.

 

Professional help.

 

Reality is gone. And the doll chick showing up is giving her even more information about this man. It is feeding the obsession.

 

I don't know. The original poster is real, but the ex.....seems awful coincidental to me.

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No, they're after his money for the most part.

 

As is A if her email quote is to be believed ..........Me: I wish I could be like you and not have to go to work.

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Trialbyfire

While it's not as extreme, I wonder how Charles Manson's women used to perceive him? Almost godlike, no?

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Can anyone say troll?

 

Nobody is this crazy.

 

Nobody.

 

Previously I was getting called the crazy lady with the creepy dolls, but NOW you think no one is this crazy?

 

I am not a troll. I really am Denver Guy's ex. I'm not sure how to prove that, though. Uh... post something to my blog maybe?

 

And while I don't think I'm crazy, I am pissed off and horribly jaded. DenverGuy KNOWS what he's doing to Ariadne this time. We had long, long talks about it after he handed the emails over to me and I TOLD him "You totally led her on, you bastard. This is cruel." and now he's doing it again.

 

He wants attention? What better way for him to have it than have ALL of the harem members around him? I think Ariadne should come stay out here with us until he buys HER a house too. It seems to be working for Laura.

 

Maybe it's time for DenverGuy to learn that there are consequences to emotionally manipulating people like this. Because this time, he's doing it on PURPOSE, and that's just plain wrong.

 

Sorry to have added the surreal to this thread, but this is really only the tip of the weirdness iceberg. You have no idea how really screwed up this guy and this situation is. Ariadne and I can really pick 'em, lemme tell you.

 

Wendy

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This is serious. And the doll chick showing up is giving her even more information about this man. It is feeding the obsession.

 

That's true.

 

I didn't know that he didn't get my emails in the past two years because he had them forwarded.

 

I thought he had read my sporadic messages.

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If he is this screwed up, why in the world are you still living with him then?

 

Why haven't you left?

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Maybe DG can produce a film or even a short based on A's fixation, or even his life with women in general......

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That's true.

 

I didn't know that he didn't get my emails in the past two years because he had them forwarded.

 

I thought he had read my sporadic messages.

 

Which in itself is a pretty crappy thing to do - a NORMAL person would just block you or have them go to spam to be automatically deleted.......

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I thought he had read my sporadic messages.

 

Nope, for the most part he didn't even know you'd sent them. I never told him.

 

Though I did show him the picture of your little "shrine" to him, 'cause that was just kind of creepy.

 

Well, I found it creepy (sorry). I think he found it flattering.

 

Wendy

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Ariadne, start communicating with Wendy directly through email. You know her email address, I'm guessing, so if she emails you, you'll know it's for real.

 

Maybe this is what you need. A visit with Wendy and Denver Guy.

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No this is indeed the GF, she knows all the details.Things that have NOT been posted on LS.

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TrialbyFire...

 

We are going to be reading about that visit in the news if our heroine goes to meet the two of them in Denver.

 

Don't think that is such a good idea.

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If he is this screwed up, why in the world are you still living with him then?

 

Why haven't you left?

 

Honestly, because I don't have my own business quite up and running yet (I'm a professional massage therapist and just finished getting my Associates in Cranial Sacral studies).

 

The office I want to move into isn't ready yet, and I wasn't really expecting everything to blow up quite the way it did. He doesn't care if I stay, it isn't all THAT different (we haven't shared a bed in two years, so that's nothing new), and if I stay here I can focus on my business instead of finding a place to live with two dogs.

 

It's weird, but my life is ALWAYS weird. (shrug) And it's a really nice house and all my stuff is here.

 

I figured I can choose to act or re-act, and reacting would only hurt ME, not him. Throwing a tantrum and storming out would mean nothing to him, though he'd undoubtedly turn it into some kind of weird victimization on his part. And frankly, I give Darelene less than a week before she's moved in after I leave.

 

So I can bide my time. Be roommates. Today I am sick with a head cold and hanging out in a forum where I've been rather maligned. Now if I'd moved out, I would've missed all of this.

 

And what a pity that would've been.

 

Wendy

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Don't think that is such a good idea.

 

What is a good idea is that Ariadne removes the fantasy that she has built around this man..

 

Ariadne... right now it's more real than it has ever been..

 

this man does not love you.. and it seems he does not love Wendy either..

 

He only loves himself and hurts people that love him.

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He doesn't care if I stay, it isn't all THAT different (we haven't shared a bed in two years, so that's nothing new)

 

:eek: :eek: :eek:

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TrialbyFire...

 

We are going to be reading about that visit in the news if our heroine goes to meet the two of them in Denver.

 

Don't think that is such a good idea.

Maybe you're right although that's not what Ariadne has confirmed when I suggested bunny boiling.

 

Wendy, the part that's difficult to swallow for anyone exposed to an ex, is that there's usually residual bitterness in a break up. People tend to take what an ex says as either jealousy and/or malice intended, where many times, it's reality hitting when the rose-coloured glasses come off.

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TrialbyFire...

 

We are going to be reading about that visit in the news if our heroine goes to meet the two of them in Denver.

 

Don't think that is such a good idea.

 

Unlikely.

 

This time she's invited. Last time, she stood in my back yard in the dark watching him do "that cute thing with your nose" through the deck doors and I warned the local police that I might have to shoot her, because a "friend" of hers had told me she felt I was the only obstacle between her and DenverGuy and I felt very, very threatened by that. In a very real, physical way.

 

Invited is different. _I'll_ be happy to see her, even if this is going to completely cheese DenverGuy's biscuits.

 

Wendy

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Maybe this is what you need. A visit with Wendy and Denver Guy.

 

This might be the closure Ariadne needs.

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Wendy, the part that's difficult to swallow for anyone exposed to an ex, is that there's usually residual bitterness in a break up. People tend to take what an ex says as either jealousy and/or malice intended, where many times, it's reality hitting when the rose-coloured glasses come off.

 

(nodding) I understand. And honestly, until I found out this morning that he was talking to Ariadne again, I had just backed off. Quietly biding my time, living here. We get along okay. I figured I screwed up, I knew better than to get involved with him. I KNEW he was completely emotionally unavailable and it isn't as if the harem is anything new. I totally blamed myself and so I've just been a quiet and pretty harmless ex living in his house.

 

But this. That he would hurt someone who he KNOWS is crazy in love with him, who he KNOWS has lost her job in the past because of her love for him, who he KNOWS will feed his ego just with a tiny bit of stroking...

 

... yeah, okay now I'm bitter and more than a little pissed off. Not because the relationship broke up, but because this is just WRONG.

 

DenverGuy is screwed up. And I am sympathetic to that. (Seriously, this boy's got issues WAAAAY beyond the harem). But pulling Ariadne back into this is just plain cruel and irresponsible. He's got Laura living here to feed his ego already. That isn't enough?

 

But I understand why it would seem weird and maybe not real. But I really am real (I feel like Alice protesting to the unicorn). To the point that when he gets back from his bike ride and reads this (our anonymous friend who sent me the link to this thread, sent it to him also) he's going to FLIP.

 

So I might be moving sooner than I thought. But I doubt it. He's going to suck up the attention and love it. (shaking head)

 

I don't know what to do to make it more real. My goal was to pull away the fantasy of "Well, he CAN'T write me back because of that Wendy!" from Ariadne and maybe help her take a step back into reality. And if that means she needs to come stay in my guest room, so be it. (shrug)

 

Wendy

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(nodding) I understand. And honestly, until I found out this morning that he was talking to Ariadne again, I had just backed off. Quietly biding my time, living here. We get along okay. I figured I screwed up, I knew better than to get involved with him. I KNEW he was completely emotionally unavailable and it isn't as if the harem is anything new. I totally blamed myself and so I've just been a quiet and pretty harmless ex living in his house.

 

But this. That he would hurt someone who he KNOWS is crazy in love with him, who he KNOWS has lost her job in the past because of her love for him, who he KNOWS will feed his ego just with a tiny bit of stroking...

 

... yeah, okay now I'm bitter and more than a little pissed off. Not because the relationship broke up, but because this is just WRONG.

 

DenverGuy is screwed up. And I am sympathetic to that. (Seriously, this boy's got issues WAAAAY beyond the harem). But pulling Ariadne back into this is just plain cruel and irresponsible. He's got Laura living here to feed his ego already. That isn't enough?

 

But I understand why it would seem weird and maybe not real. But I really am real (I feel like Alice protesting to the unicorn). To the point that when he gets back from his bike ride and reads this (our anonymous friend who sent me the link to this thread, sent it to him also) he's going to FLIP.

 

So I might be moving sooner than I thought. But I doubt it. He's going to suck up the attention and love it. (shaking head)

 

I don't know what to do to make it more real. My goal was to pull away the fantasy of "Well, he CAN'T write me back because of that Wendy!" from Ariadne and maybe help her take a step back into reality. And if that means she needs to come stay in my guest room, so be it. (shrug)

 

Wendy

Wendy, I believe you are who you say you are. I hope Ariadne can appreciate how this might be affecting you and that you've taken the time to try to help her get through this obsession. You must also be hurting.

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To the point that when he gets back from his bike ride and reads this (our anonymous friend who sent me the link to this thread, sent it to him also) he's going to FLIP.

 

So I might be moving sooner than I thought. But I doubt it. He's going to suck up the attention and love it. (shaking head)

 

 

That is my guess.

 

I would bet if you were to watch him read this thread, you would notice his eyes get big and full, and a glint of a ego manical smile gleen across his teeth.

 

The subtle tells of a small minded puppet master.

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