Prenup! At what point do you reveal prenuptial interest?

[carhill]

Neither of us considered a pre-nup out loud, though my wife did purposely wait to get married because of arrangements made with her ex-H regarding support. She will now "forget", but she made specific mention of "keeping money separate" and "keeping her own name". Personally, I hate verbal agreements of any sort, and always reduce conversations of significant legal ramification to writing. My dad, as a CPA, taught me the value of that. No ambiguity The only area I did not apply it to was the love and romance area, likely due to inexperience. Perhaps that is why I understand your perspective. You have had that experience (of a failed marriage) and have learned from it.

 

If there's a next time for me, I won't own anything and will live in a tent

 

As far as specific questions, go ahead and bullet them out and I'll try to answer....

[torranceshipman]

Together Forever agreement..thats cute! If we get more serious down the line I'll think I'll definitely raise the issue-sounds logical! He sounds like you too, definitely an Alpha

 

And JerseyShortie...man, you are completely obsessed with porn aren't you! I think you're a closet porn lover and you're just lookin for excuses to talk about it inacessantly.

[Lookingforward]

Together Forever agreement..thats cute! If we get more serious down the line I'll think I'll definitely raise the issue-sounds logical! He sounds like you too, definitely an Alpha

 

And JerseyShortie...man, you are completely obsessed with porn aren't you! I think you're a closet porn lover and you're just lookin for excuses to talk about it inacessantly.

 

 

ROFL - so glad someone finally said it, the topic does seem to be an obsession.

[trust]

Together Forever agreement..thats cute! If we get more serious down the line I'll think I'll definitely raise the issue-sounds logical! He sounds like you too, definitely an Alpha

 

I think I mentioned this in a previous post in this thread but I'll mention it again...if he is a lot like me, then you may want to at least talk about your view on prenups (in favor of) as a hypothetical to him at an early stage. I'd be pissed if you waited to spring something serious like that on me until after: you had much history with me, met my family, met my friends, moved up to the engagement stage, and *then* sprung it on me. I'd feel like you forced an unfair advantage by waiting until we were at the edge of the cliff to tell me you have a parachute, while I didn't (for the lack of a better analogy). Had you told me early on, I could have at least had time to get my own parachute, or at the least, made plans to grab a hold of your legs on the way down.

 

And JerseyShortie...man, you are completely obsessed with porn aren't you! I think you're a closet porn lover and you're just lookin for excuses to talk about it inacessantly.

LOL.... I don't think she's going to like that. Somewhere in her world, she felt a disturbance in the Force at the moment you mentioned her name and porn in the same sentence. hahahaha I love Jersey Shortie. She's great. I'm going to miss her when I leave this site.

[torranceshipman]

Hey Trust, it'd be more for his benefit, seeing as he is definitely the more affluent of the two of us, and is the one whose friends have been burned quite badly by expensive divorces....I have no idea where his principles lie on this issue, but it'd more to set his mind at rest early on that I want him, not his money, so if he wanted us to head down the path of a prenup, I'd have no issue wth it

 

It's a hypothetical I might bring up early on if things continue to go well...

[trust]

Hey Trust, it'd be more for his benefit, seeing as he is definitely the more affluent of the two of us, and is the one whose friends have been burned quite badly by expensive divorces....I have no idea where his principles lie on this issue, but it'd more to set his mind at rest early on that I want him, not his money, so if he wanted us to head down the path of a prenup, I'd have no issue wth it

 

It's a hypothetical I might bring up early on if things continue to go well...

Ok. I'm following you now. But be careful with your assumptions about what a prenup is. Just because he's currently more affluent than you, doesn't really make sense with my prenup. Mine states (it's in the works) that if *I* cheat, *I* lose my assets. Important detail there. But then I know I've got to get down to the technical nitty gritty of just exactly what it means to “cheat.” It’s like trying to find out what a girl means when she says she’s a “virgin.” Yeah…is that Virgin/Virgin, Technical Virgin, Born Again Virgin, or Virgin Mary Immaculate Conception?

[trust]

Neither of us considered a pre-nup out loud, though my wife did purposely wait to get married because of arrangements made with her ex-H regarding support. She will now "forget", but she made specific mention of "keeping money separate" and "keeping her own name". Personally, I hate verbal agreements of any sort, and always reduce conversations of significant legal ramification to writing. My dad, as a CPA, taught me the value of that. No ambiguity The only area I did not apply it to was the love and romance area, likely due to inexperience. Perhaps that is why I understand your perspective. You have had that experience (of a failed marriage) and have learned from it.

 

If there's a next time for me, I won't own anything and will live in a tent

 

As far as specific questions, go ahead and bullet them out and I'll try to answer....

 

Yeah...sounds like that was either 1. selective memory (denial), 2. intentional "program swap" (she lied) or 3. she changed. As much as I'd hate it, I'd have to give her the benefit of the doubt on that one. Not that that does much for the resentment that just got put on the stack of resentment in your marriage (as with every marriage). Yeah, looking back I guess you realize that you should have put that in writing (together-forever agreement). This is part of why I'm posting about it here on this site. Hopefully *one* guy (business owner, no-fault state) will see this thread and actually learn from *my* mistake instead of learning the hard way.

 

Hey, I have some land and a tent - I'll rent it to you. Just kidding.

[Tomcat33]

I'm not sure where the conversation is headed now but I will respond in terms fo the opening post.

 

I have a problem with this idea that you say "I got married, made a lot of money and now SHE is walking around with MY money" excuse me but if you are sharing your life with someone, you may have been the one out there getting promotions and bringing home money but your W was the one that held the fort down for you and HELPED YOU to grow financially outside of the home. YES she cheated on you and I have no clue what went down in your marriage for that to happen but just because one person is the bigger bread winner that does not DISCOUNT the other person for their contributions for making a marriage successfuf. If you really can't find ANY redeeming qualities or benefit to what your W contributed to your marriage then the questions begs to be asked, why in the world did you spend all that time next to a parasite? (I doubt she is a parasite)

 

I don't believe in prenups at ALL. I own my own palce and have been since the age of 27, have a good career with a rather comfortable income have my own savings, have more than doubled the equity in my place since I bought, I have long term retirement savings plans and IF a BIG IF I ever marry I don't believe in making someone sign some prenup, our finances will be shared I have no qualms about that. I am 34 since you asked for age.

Lastly I suppose it is easier for women to think this way since men STILL make more than we do, no matter what profession you look at. So until they can give women TRUE equal pay then I suppose you will have to deal with women making less than you and also the attitude that what is mine is yours and what's yours is also mind.

 

So if a guy asked me to sign a prenup I would be turne off completely, why? Becuase to me that signifies the begining of the end. If you are anticipating a D already then why even go through with marriage?

 

And JerseyShortie...man, you are completely obsessed with porn aren't you! I think you're a closet porn lover and you're just lookin for excuses to talk about it inacessantly.

 

 

Seriously!! I mean how much more can a person keep expressing their disdain for porn? YIKES!!! It's odd.

 

Start a protest group and become an activist if you are THAT passionate about it??

[Tomcat33]

But be careful with your assumptions about what a prenup is. Just because he's currently more affluent than you, doesn't really make sense with my prenup. Mine states (it's in the works) that if *I* cheat, *I* lose my assets. Important detail there.

 

Oh WAIT A MINUTE STOP THE PRESSES!!!!

 

Did I just read right? A prenupt against infidelity? Hmmmm now here's a novelty item of an idea. I LIKE THAT! A LOT

 

So if one of the two parties cheats they have to give up their assets. I LOVE that idea actually. Why didn't anyone ever come up with that before? get em'where it hurts most, the pocket!!

[trust]

I'm not sure where the conversation is headed now but I will respond in terms fo the opening post.

 

Hi Tomcat. I like your signature. Thanks for replying to the post. I understand exactly what you're saying and how you feel.

I have a problem with this idea that you say "I got married, made a lot of money and now SHE is walking around with MY money" excuse me but if you are sharing your life with someone, you may have been the one out there getting promotions and bringing home money but your W was the one that held the fort down for you and HELPED YOU to grow financially outside of the home. YES she cheated on you and I have no clue what went down in your marriage for that to happen but just because one person is the bigger bread winner that does not DISCOUNT the other person for their contributions for making a marriage successfuf.

And I will excuse you because you don't know all of the details that went down in my marriage. I've already addressed that first issue in a prior post. I know there are many, but I guess if you care enough about the answer, you'd go searching back in the posts at this point.

 

If you really can't find ANY redeeming qualities or benefit to what your W contributed to your marriage then the questions begs to be asked, why in the world did you spend all that time next to a parasite? (I doubt she is a parasite)

Yet another good point. That one was addressed in great detail in a previous post as well.

 

I don't believe in prenups at ALL. I own my own palce and have been since the age of 27, have a good career with a rather comfortable income have my own savings, have more than doubled the equity in my place since I bought, I have long term retirement savings plans and IF a BIG IF I ever marry I don't believe in making someone sign some prenup, our finances will be shared I have no qualms about that.

I didn't believe in prenups at all either. I despised them. Now let me guess, you've not been divorced, correct? Where I'm going with this was answered in a previous post as well.

 

I am 34 since you asked for age.

And you are female. I was confused at first glance, looking at your avatar. But a quick click on your profile cleared that up.

 

Lastly I suppose it is easier for women to think this way since men STILL make more than we do, no matter what profession you look at. So until they can give women TRUE equal pay then I suppose you will have to deal with women making less than you and also the attitude that what is mine is yours and what's yours is also mind.

Ahhhhhh.....the equality thing. I could talk for 10 hours about that. But that's waaaaaaay off topic..so I'll pass.

So if a guy asked me to sign a prenup I would be turne off completely, why? Becuase to me that signifies the begining of the end. If you are anticipating a D already then why even go through with marriage?

Uh huh. This was addressed too...and maybe exactly word-for-word? But I can understand how you feel.

 

 

Seriously!! I mean how much more can a person keep expressing their disdain for porn? YIKES!!! It's odd.

She's just in a rut. Cut her some slack. I've got some compassion for that girl. JS you're awesome!

[torranceshipman]

I think that is a very logical idea-I'm all for that - void in the case of infidelity! Great idea :D

[trust]

Oh WAIT A MINUTE STOP THE PRESSES!!!!

 

Did I just read right? A prenupt against infidelity? Hmmmm now here's a novelty item of an idea. I LIKE THAT! A LOT

 

So if one of the two parties cheats they have to give up their assets. I LOVE that idea actually. Why didn't anyone ever come up with that before? get em'where it hurts most, the pocket!!

 

Thank you. I am becoming somewhat of a genius. I think I'll go admire myself in the mirror now. But before I speak too soon, I'll have to let you know how that one pans out. It can't possibly go any worse than the first time around, can it? (I'm asking myself that question)

[carhill]

I don't believe trust originated the "infidelity? you lose?" idea in pre-nups. I recall such verbiage being tossed about back during the time Donald Trump was about to marry his mistress, Marla Maples....

 

As far as sharing money and lives goes, as long as it's equal in the eyes of the law, I'm all for it. None of us knows enough about the OP's personal past to comment with authority on his situation, but I can say, in my personal situation, I'm the one with the family debts and the lower income and can invite trust's comments as to whether I would be entitled to support and equitable distribution of marital assets. I think I know what his answer would be

 

IMO, there is precedence for the "old" saying "what's mine is mine and what's his is mine". Parts of society (and the laws which reflect it) have not yet evolved in that regard, hence the OP's assertion in taking part in some evolution of his own

[Tomcat33]

Hi Tomcat. I like your signature. Thanks for replying to the post. I understand exactly what you're saying and how you feel.

 

thanks

 

 

Yet another good point. That one was addressed in great detail in a previous post as well.

 

 

great if you would be kind enough to direct me to the page it's on I will give it a read for SURE otherwise I don't have the patience of going through 13+ pages of back and forth to find a simple answer to:

 

Do you feel your W had no contribution to your marriage? If so ONLY then can you claim the finances DO belong to you and only you. No matter how your marriage ended, I still believe without knowing anything about your situation that you MUST have built "something" together.

 

 

I didn't believe in prenups at all either. I despised them. Now let me guess, you've not been divorced, correct? Where I'm going with this was answered in a previous post as well.

 

 

You guessed right, but I did live with someone for a long time I too was cheated on and we had many shared assets except the home, that was still mine and under my name luckily but he was the SIGNIFICANT bread winner at the time he earned four times what I made at the time. Anyway the split was fair and other than the immaturity of how he handled the split it didn't leave an overly bad taste in my mouth. Though had you asked about this years ago after it happened I prob would have said NEVER again. Now I don't feel so inclined to think this way.

 

Time makes you forget, ya know? Sort of like us ladies having second and third kids, if we were programmed to remember natural birthing in its entire grewsome detailed spectrum, there is NO WAY IN HELL we would have more than one child. :laugh:

 

Then again after a bad love break up you also feel like you will NEVER EVER love again, and yet low and behold you DO.

Snap!! If you are willing to allow someone to enter your heart again and risk having that same person possibliy break that heart and steal your soul, what the heck is a couch or a car or a house going to solve?

 

Call me romantic....

 

 

 

And you are female. I was confused at first glance, looking at your avatar. But a quick click on your profile cleared that up.

 

yes I am a "female tomcat" call me Tammycat BUT i am not really a cat incase you were wondering that too

 

Ahhhhhh.....the equality thing. I could talk for 10 hours about that. But that's waaaaaaay off topic..so I'll pass.

Uh huh. This was addressed too...and maybe exactly word-for-word? But I can understand how you feel.

 

Cool, let's not and say we did.

 

She's just in a rut. Cut her some slack. I've got some compassion for that girl. JS you're awesome!

 

 

That's not a rut it's an obsession, it has PATHOLOGY rubber stampped diagonally across it. She needs to address her concern professionally otherwise the poor girl is going to drive herself insane and it will affect her life in many negatvive ways as I am sure it already is.

[Tomcat33]

I don't believe trust originated the "infidelity? you lose?" idea in pre-nups. I recall such verbiage being tossed about back during the time Donald Trump was about to marry his mistress, Marla Maples....

 

 

 

Thanks for clarifying that Carhill!

 

Tisk tisk Trust!! You should know better than to plagiarize an idea from a famous divorcee!

[trust]

I don't believe trust originated the "infidelity? you lose?" idea in pre-nups. I recall such verbiage being tossed about back during the time Donald Trump was about to marry his mistress, Marla Maples....

 

As far as sharing money and lives goes, as long as it's equal in the eyes of the law, I'm all for it. None of us knows enough about the OP's personal past to comment with authority on his situation, but I can say, in my personal situation, I'm the one with the family debts and the lower income and can invite trust's comments as to whether I would be entitled to support and equitable distribution of marital assets. I think I know what his answer would be

 

IMO, there is precedence for the "old" saying "what's mine is mine and what's his is mine". Parts of society (and the laws which reflect it) have not yet evolved in that regard, hence the OP's assertion in taking part in some evolution of his own

 

Right. And don’t get me started on peg leg. But the novelty in the idea is that I’m *trying* to put the “fault” back in the “no-fault” State that I live in (by way of a together-forever agreement). If you are a guy, and you have a similar composition, you marry a girl, with a similar composition as the one I had, *she changes for the worse*, then it sucks to be you. Either learn from my mistakes, or learn from your own mistakes. Take your pick.

[trust]

thanks

 

You guessed right, but I did live with someone for a long time I too was cheated on and we had many shared assets except the home, that was still mine and under my name luckily

 

Luckily? Luck? Boy, you've really not thought this out. But at least you are looking at the issue, so I'll give you credit for that. If you keep playing/decision making off of your “luck” on issues where there’s a strong possibility where you will get burned (divorce – given the rate is greater than 50%) then one thing is for certain; do it long enough, and your luck will run out. When it does, and you repeat the same behavior (by not realizing what you did, or maybe you do realize but don’t correct it), another thing is for certain – you will become a glutton for punishment, post in the divorce section of this site, do more venting than reasoning, then either figure it all out, or repeat your mistakes. What “he” does is ultimately out of your control. But to a large degree, what happens to you can be handled. There are things that are in your circle of influence…and there’s things that are not. I wish you well in your “luck” and hope that you don’t have to realize what I’ve realized by experience and hard relationship work.

 

but he was the SIGNIFICANT bread winner at the time he earned four times what I made at the time. Anyway the split was fair

Ok. Stop. Of course you’re not inclined “to feel this way”. You just said the split was “fair”. I can see that it probably was…given you were the one making the rules governing the split without the added dimension of civil law coming into play (I’m assuming you were not classified as a “common law marriage” with this guy).

 

and other than the immaturity of how he handled the split it didn't leave an overly bad taste in my mouth. Though had you asked about this years ago after it happened I prob would have said NEVER again. Now I don't feel so inclined to think this way.

“immaturity of how he handled the split”??? Uh huh. And I’d like for you to imagine, had you been married to that same guy at that same point in his emotional development, that his immaturity would have been magnified exponentially if he had more to lose than he did in your example.

 

Time makes you forget, ya know? Sort of like us ladies having second and third kids, if we were programmed to remember natural birthing in its entire grewsome detailed spectrum, there is NO WAY IN HELL we would have more than one child. :laugh:

Uh huh..that rule is pretty universal…and it applies to some degree…and the rest of that rule goes a little something like this: had your breakup been more memorable (you said it was fair) in the sense that it went horribly wrong, then the time it would take you to get over the *feeling* would have been somewhat proportionate to the damage. But then, I’m not talking about feelings here (but you are a female, and yet again here is another example of a female speaking from *feeling* instead of reason and that’s no coincidence.) So now you’ve gone off into “feeling land” (you might be what I call an 80/20….but it’s too early to tell) and have totally missed my point of reason.

 

There were two parts to your situation, a feeling part (cheating) and a physical part (the split). Had the cheating part been much worse (in a marriage) and had the split gone ridiculously and legally in his favor, you wouldn’t blow off the whole thing with the view you have right now. You lack experience. But it’s not really important that you get it. Given what you’ve told me, and assuming you are in a “fault State in the US”, then the prenup doesn’t really apply to you. Sincerely, and without sarcasm, thanks for sharing.

 

Then again after a bad love break up you also feel like you will NEVER EVER love again, and yet low and behold you DO.

Snap!! If you are willing to allow someone to enter your heart again and risk having that same person possibliy break that heart and steal your soul, what the heck is a couch or a car or a house going to solve?

At the rate you're going...you may answer that question yourself one day.

 

Call me romantic....

Nothing wrong with a romantic. I would call myself a romantic as well. But I'd call you something different in a very friendly tone of voice - a naive romantic. Through experience, you may become just a romantic one day.

[OpenBook]

I would have no problems signing his prenup... as long as he signed MY prenup as well.

[2sunny]

well - i guess i'll step into the convo for now...

 

i really didn't believe in prenups while i was younger. when i got married we pooled everything and paid for everything from the basic money earned by both of us.

 

two kids and 20 years later we split everything 50/50.

 

now i suppose i would have to consider a prenup IF i were to EVER consider marrying again... i doubt i will consider re-marrying. no reason to really. not intending to have more kids etc. and i like my life and my freedom to do as i wish too much.

 

the only reason to consider a prenup would be to be sure that my earned assets go to my kids if/when anything were to happen to me.

 

i also have family who i trust dearly as my power of attorney so that they can access my assets if need be.

[SugarKiss]

And yet you decided to berate me because you didn’t like what I’ve said? That made a lotta sense. Let's review:

 

“Odd name” – sarcasm, snide remark, poking fun

“Mistrust of humanity” – accusations without support (indicates emotional based response)

“not sure if you’ve noticed this” – snide remark, assumption of higher intelligence (condescension)

 

Do you realize you just did exactly what you jumped on to me for doing? Great way to start off your argument. Typical chic. Responds before she thinks. Tsk Tsk.

 

interesting, so when it is done to you it is considered berating. :laugh:

oh the irony kills me. just giving you a taste of your own medicine and given your reaction it seems you simply can't take it.

 

 

Ok. So you’re afraid of me and of what I might say to you huh? Ok. Fair enough. Bye, sugarkiss! Mmmmmmmwwwwah!

 

 

not afraid of you, not interested in being a scapegoat for your passive agressive abuse.

 

a name you can trust for brutal honesty (and if you are a delicate flower, you probably won't like brutal honesty)

 

no delicate flower. ok since we are being brutally honest and all...

 

Seeing how petulant, arrogant and condescending (affectionately speaking of course) your remarks are, I can see why you would need a prenup. a woman that marries you will be stuck with this abuse and the only way you could hold her to stay with you (since cheating might be a natural tendency given your inclination to be as you are) is to hold her by a paper that states she loses everything if she tries to leave you.

 

there's some honesty for you cowboy!

[SugarKiss]

you forgot to add supercilious

 

 

that one nicely rounds up my three adjectives. now why didn't I think of that? it would have saved me the space of three words.

[trust]

interesting, so when it is done to you it is considered berating. :laugh:

oh the irony kills me. just giving you a taste of your own medicine and given your reaction it seems you simply can't take it.

 

Oh, I thought you were leaving. And you came back. Just had allll this emotion you had to get out, didn't you? There was no irony there. You waaaaaaay missed my point. I don't *care* about your sarcasm, I was pointing out something that I thought was obvious. But it's ok. You are too far gone for me to reach. I'm assuming as I read more of this, you will get worse.

not afraid of you, not interested in being a scapegoat for your passive agressive abuse.

My, we have many psychologists here on Loveshack. And I admire all the work and preparation you took to come to that conclusion.

 

 

no delicate flower. ok since we are being brutally honest and all...

 

Seeing how petulant, arrogant and condescending (affectionately speaking of course) your remarks are, I can see why you would need a prenup. a woman that marries you will be stuck with this abuse and the only way you could hold her to stay with you (since cheating might be a natural tendency given your inclination to be as you are) is to hold her by a paper that states she loses everything if she tries to leave you.

And it did get worse. This isn't a "comeback fest". There's lots of good information sprinkled with sarcasm (except for your post which is no good information and just dumb remarks) I'm sorry...I think you missed my point and the purpose of this thread. So you think you know me? You most certainly didn't read my posts (another typical and *lazy* chic who jumps in, spews her idiocy, and doesn't read before she comments...allll because of how you *feel*.. you aren't even thinking straight..yep... you're an 80/20) READ MY POSTS. My prenup says I lose my assets if I cheat. It doesn't work the way you described. Just more incorrect assumptions by some chic who got her wittle feewings hurt.

 

there's some honesty for you cowboy!

Ok. You've shown me just how dumb you are. And do you feel better now, cowgirl? Before I ask you to get lost because you are too young and inexperienced, do you have something to add about your marriage or your view on prenups?

[trust]

@ Lookingfoward and Sugarkiss:

 

I’m not trying to sell me (as a nice guy) to you right now…but I am asking you to think about something. I’m on this prenup thread, which has this “negative cloud” to it. It’s a hot topic and tends to touch a nerve with many people, including me. That’s part of why I started this thread. I’m trying to take care of objections, arguments, etc. here on this thread as “experience” before I carry it “live” out there with these girls I deal with. I’ve already put in my public profile that I’m an Alpha male. So you can pretty much gather up some assumptions about me as I came with a warning (if you cared to look). I am very sarcastic. Sarcasm, unfortunately, comes off as a bit rough when you don’t know me and you read my written words in this context here in this thread (negative could, nerves getting touched, etc). If we were in person, I guarantee you you’d have a different perspective, thinking I was one of the nicest guys you’ve ever met. In person, I tend to cushion the sarcasm with how I see that you react to it. I can’t do that here….but I choose to keep myself as real as possible by not changing my behavior. So what I’m asking, in this thread, is for you to just “free style it”…tell me what you *really* think…and I don’t really care if you get personal, just so long as it makes sense (you must support your “sense” with at least some meaningful reasonable evidence). I would care, however, if you started making threats and silly stuff like that, or if all you have to say is “I hate you trust” and then you say nothing useful about the thread topic, resulting in petty bickering. That would be carrying things a bit too far.

 

At the end of the day, I just hope that we both learned something about prenups, and can forget about the crap that we slung at each other to get to that understanding. Can you agree to this?

[Lookingforward]

@ Lookingfoward and Sugarkiss:

 

I’m not trying to sell me (as a nice guy) to you right now…but I am asking you to think about something. I’m on this prenup thread, which has this “negative cloud” to it. It’s a hot topic and tends to touch a nerve with many people, including me. That’s part of why I started this thread. I’m trying to take care of objections, arguments, etc. here on this thread as “experience” before I carry it “live” out there with these girls I deal with. I’ve already put in my public profile that I’m an Alpha male. So you can pretty much gather up some assumptions about me as I came with a warning (if you cared to look). I am very sarcastic. Sarcasm, unfortunately, comes off as a bit rough when you don’t know me and you read my written words in this context here in this thread (negative could, nerves getting touched, etc). If we were in person, I guarantee you you’d have a different perspective, thinking I was one of the nicest guys you’ve ever met. In person, I tend to cushion the sarcasm with how I see that you react to it. I can’t do that here….but I choose to keep myself as real as possible by not changing my behavior. So what I’m asking, in this thread, is for you to just “free style it”…tell me what you *really* think…and I don’t really care if you get personal, just so long as it makes sense (you must support your “sense” with at least some meaningful reasonable evidence). I would care, however, if you started making threats and silly stuff like that, or if all you have to say is “I hate you trust” and then you say nothing useful about the thread topic, resulting in petty bickering. That would be carrying things a bit too far.

 

At the end of the day, I just hope that we both learned something about prenups, and can forget about the crap that we slung at each other to get to that understanding. Can you agree to this?

 

 

I didn't bother to read through all that - but saw my name - lighten up already - I really don't see where you get off addressing all THAT to me, but fwiw no, I don't think I'd like your attitude any better in person - like SK, I'm not all that attracted to the passive aggressive..........btdt

 

I initially had some sympathy for your situation when I read your first posts, but now, nah. You reap what you sow IME

[trust]

I didn't bother to read through all that - but saw my name - lighten up already - I really don't see where you get off addressing all THAT to me, but fwiw no, I don't think I'd like your attitude any better in person - like SK, I'm not all that attracted to the passive aggressive..........btdt

 

I initially had some sympathy for your situation when I read your first posts, but now, nah. You reap what you sow IME

 

Yet again..nothing to add but hate. Didn't care enough to read all that? Yet cared enough to post and even commented on the part in the middle. I'm not after your sympathy. Yes, time for you to get lost. You are dumbing down this thread. You're also on my "no read post" so...your posts after this one will be ignored.