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In my case and likely TIY's case - no she does not concur. But does that mean she cannot change her mind - (woman's perogative allows their minds to change). Does that mean we should not try ?

 

Just maybe if they see something different in us (because we have learned a very hard and powerful lesson), how much we have come to realize that we truly love our wives, and would do anything for them even now after everything we have been through - maybe she will change her mind and at least try or open up just a bit...

 

Maybe a normal marrriage cannot be restored now or even years from now, but maybe there can be a connection through proper parenthood that could bring us closer together ?

 

Miracles do happen... Hope is better than despair. I am preparing to keep the option open to some level of reconciliation rather than preventing it.

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Well, I'm sorry but when my wife spends nearly every free moment with me, invites me to her house, and sleeps with me twice in 2 days, I get confused and forget that I'm dealing with a woman that wants me out of her life.

 

By far that's not the situation the OP is facing.

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By far that's not the situation the OP is facing.

 

I agree, sorry to hijack the thread.

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Stop sleeping with her and be more independant and then see what happens. why are you allowing your emotions to be toyed like this? O would be pissed off!

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Stop sleeping with her and be more independant and then see what happens. why are you allowing your emotions to be toyed like this? O would be pissed off!

 

 

We've stopped having sex. Mutual issues with that. I was doing it thinking it meant something more. She was doing it for purely physical reasons. It was hurting both of us.

 

I am more independent. The entire time she's moved out I've been going to Los Angeles and San Diego every other week and partying hard. I had some girls(ugly and hot) that wanted to bone. I've been partying and getting wild beyond belief. I'm not happy doing that same stuff anymore. I think I posted on how the way I was acting was getting me women and it was unsatisfying. I don't live for the damn chase. I don't enjoy moving on to new people just to build new relationships that eventually end. I'm not someone who buys into that whole consumer social approach of the new millenia.

 

I've lived that lifestyle from when I was 16 to when I was 22. I've had more fun living life than most people. I've done **** most people can only dream about. Not many people can say they partied on the south shore of Oahu with 200 people all knowing your name while you're dating a future playmate model. I'm sick of it, though. I'm so tired of all that.

 

Currently I have no emotions. I'm like some fkin machine. I'm distanced big time. I'm not sure if I want this marriage either. Yet, I'm still playing this game and I will continue to play this game until I feel like leaving her to the wolves. Until I feel like leaving her to false fantasies and naive perceptions about what else is out there. I know what's out there. More work, more women and their retarded nonsense. I'll stick with this girl and her nonsense for awhile.

 

How many more marriages? How many more women do I have to be with? Your philosophy is sh*t. If you keep giving up, eventually you are going to be old and alone. At one point, you have to deal with your issues and put away your damn fear and weakness.

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We've stopped having sex. Mutual issues with that. I was doing it thinking it meant something more. She was doing it for purely physical reasons. It was hurting both of us.

 

I am more independent. The entire time she's moved out I've been going to Los Angeles and San Diego every other week and partying hard. I had some girls(ugly and hot) that wanted to bone. I've been partying and getting wild beyond belief. I'm not happy doing that same stuff anymore. I think I posted on how the way I was acting was getting me women and it was unsatisfying. I don't live for the damn chase. I don't enjoy moving on to new people just to build new relationships that eventually end. I'm not someone who buys into that whole consumer social approach of the new millenia.

 

I've lived that lifestyle from when I was 16 to when I was 22. I've had more fun living life than most people. I've done **** most people can only dream about. Not many people can say they partied on the south shore of Oahu with 200 people all knowing your name while you're dating a future playmate model. I'm sick of it, though. I'm so tired of all that.

 

Currently I have no emotions. I'm like some fkin machine. I'm distanced big time. I'm not sure if I want this marriage either. Yet, I'm still playing this game and I will continue to play this game until I feel like leaving her to the wolves. Until I feel like leaving her to false fantasies and naive perceptions about what else is out there. I know what's out there. More work, more women and their retarded nonsense. I'll stick with this girl and her nonsense for awhile.

 

How many more marriages? How many more women do I have to be with? Your philosophy is sh*t. If you keep giving up, eventually you are going to be old and alone. At one point, you have to deal with your issues and put away your damn fear and weakness.

 

 

Yeah you right but check it. You dont have to be married again. No one is saying that. I'm saying that if the chick got issues and aint gonna act right. whyd be with her. You could do bad by yourself.

 

If a chick I get with aint gonna have my back. then why the F would I consider even being with her?

 

Or any woman along that lines in the same manner?

 

I'd rather be alone and happy, sleeping comfortable at night, than have my emotions held hostage from some crazy chick who cant make up her mind. You know what it's like living with anxiety day in and out hoping she come back, hoping she love you again? IMO I'd rather not feel that feeling ever again. If I got to date sporadically I will.

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Hell yeah I know how it is dealing with that anxiety. Things just don't add up though. Her behavior doesn't add up. What she is saying doesn't add up.

 

Yeah she's confused. I treated her like crap for over 2 years of our 3 year marriage. Would you not be confused. Here's some additional information for you.

 

I've flirted with other women and she's found out that these women have kissed me and I wasn't exactly holding back. There's issues here that need to be addressed.

 

The pain is both ways. We know it, we see it, we're trying to deal with it.

 

Is it worth it? Wow..that's a good question. Is any of this marriage stuff worth it? At times I'd say yes. At times I'd say no. It's all a matter of perspective. Thanks for the input though. I relate to what you are saying on a lot of levels. My eyes are not blind here. I'm not just chasing. I'm thinking while I chase, lol.

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