snide responses to porn...don't get mad guys

[quankanne]

porn is irrational, IMO. Sure it looks interesting, but come on, who is ever gonna find someone like that to boink in real life? hot women and hung men who actually *know* what to do, and when? Get real ...

 

that said, I understand why you'd want to poke fun at it to diffuse a situation, so here's my contribution:

 

"Hey, she's actually got real boobs! See? No funny looking shape to them when she leans over/lays on her back ..."

 

"Dude, pick up some gay porn, the men are soooo much better looking and have nicer dicks than this lame-azz movie you've got."

 

"Oh I'd screw someone with a hoo-hoo like that in a heartbeat!"

 

"OMG! He's so HOT!" (said repeatedly) – "I'd drink *his* dirty bathwater any day!"

[Sal Paradise]

Threads like this make me glad my gf isn't a bitter prude.

 

I feel the exact same way. I'm so glad my girl isn't so insecure that she feels threatened by an actress in a movie.

 

 

Well then it sounds like there are bigger problems in your marriage than porn.

 

 

 

I wouldn't stick around long enough for there to be 7 years of no sex. I would have left long before that.

 

 

 

Many of those who blame porn for the problems in their relationship remind me of the parents who blame entertainment (music, videogames, movies etc..) for their kids deviant behavior.

 

Instead of blaming their child or themselves for being bad parents they blame it on the entertainment industry.

 

In this case, instead of blaming 7 years of no sex on the husband and taking her own responsibility for those 7 years she blames porn.

 

 

porn is irrational, IMO. Sure it looks interesting, but come on, who is ever gonna find someone like that to boink in real life? hot women and hung men who actually *know* what to do, and when? Get real ...

 

You've never been with someone you considered hot who knew what they were doing in bed?

 

Even if it is irrational who cares? It's entertainment. Many forms of entertainment could be considered irrational. Including most romance novels and most chick flicks.

[quankanne]

lol, not someone of porn-star quality! I did have a BF who was hung like a bear and who loved going down, but unfortunately he was a bit of a sticky booger (clingy), so that overrode his positive qualities

 

it might be entertainment, but there's LEVELS of entertainment. Even in books – the romance genre is an example. Most of them have hot sex scenes in them, designed to sell the book, but I want something much more mentally challenging than grunting and sticking Tab A into Slot B ... I think the better-written sex scenes tie in all the stuff besides the simple mechanics and leave me still wanting. And there's no horrible sound track intruding, either :laugh::laugh:

[Jersey Shortie]

I feel the exact same way. I'm so glad my girl isn't so insecure that she feels threatened by an actress in a movie.

 

 

The irony here is this statement shows your own insecurity. Basically when guys say this it is meant to shame women who don't agree with porn because of his own insecurity of his porn use. It is an attempt to make it seem like anyone who is okay with porn has it all together, is uber confident, and sexual revoltionaries in the bedroom. Which isn't really the real truth.

 

 

In this case, instead of blaming 7 years of no sex on the husband and taking her own responsibility for those 7 years she blames porn.

 

And you manage to completely ignore the husbands responsiblity blaming her instead. Amazing.

 

Actually, I think if you really took the time to read her posts instead of coming in here to defend porn, you would see that she has tried to resolved the issue with her husband while he has pushed her away and turned to porn instead.

 

Even if it is irrational who cares? It's entertainment. Many forms of entertainment could be considered irrational. Including most romance novels and most chick flicks.

 

I think alot of women care because while it's entertainment. It's obviously entertainment that many many men feel the need to defend over the real woman in their life. YOu hear men say that it doesn't replace real women but how many men here make exucses and stand up for porn over real women? Quite alot. SO while it's just entertainment, it obviously holds a very special place for men as well.

 

It's also easy for you to say who cares when porn isn't treating men like less the human beings or calling them names and treating them lke objects to the same degree it treats women.

 

Romance novels and chick flicks don't degrade me. Romance novels and chick flics are comparable to video games for guys and action flicks. I am less bothered by my guy watching some action flick with a cute chick in it then I am by pornogrpahy. I'm sorry but romance novels and chick flicks are no where near a fair comparison. Those are more farily compared to action flicks for men and video games.

[Lookingforward]

I personally think that porn erodes the soul of the viewer.

 

Sorry, that wasn't very snide.

 

actually I think you're right johan - as does violence in whatever media. The mind is a sponge and one has to be careful what one takes in to process........

[Walk]

http://www.improvresourcecenter.com/mb/tpcs1.php

 

 

"True Porn Clerk Stories"

<snipped>

Sometimes people get animalistic about the tapes. For the real addicts (I'm convinced that porn is like alcohol: some people can stop at just one every now and then, some people just binge on weekends, and some people get genuinely, horribly addicted) the reptilian brain kicks in. They hit the magic portion of the tape and they're done. They pop out the tape and slam in another one, and the next day the stack comes back, unrewound and covered in goo.

 

Repeat offenders get a note on their file that says "LUBE WARNING". Management policy is that for $6.50 an hour, clerks should not have to deal with the bodily fluids of others. The first time we discreetly but firmly remind the customer that the tapes need to come back clean. The second time we hand him the tape, the Windex, and the paper towels and tell him to clean off the tape in full view of whoever else is at the counter.

 

(**Smacks head**)OMG... Porn IS just like a romance novel or chick flick!

[luvstarved]

Jeekie moo my pathetic attempt at humor really went over like a lead balloon.

 

ALL of you have my story wrong. PORN per se was never a big issue for me, I was trying to relate how silly I thought it was from the male side and how hurtful it can be from the female side and suspect maybe it hit too close to home to the staunch defenders, so I became a bitter prude. Whatever.

 

I never blamed porn on my sexless state and it had been going on for over a year already before H ever looked at porn in our R. I WAS pissed about it when he was telling me that sex was unimportant and looking at it even though that was still fairly infrequent (1-2 x/mo for about 20 minutes). I never told him not to look at it, only to keep it from kids, and in fact set up a special private account to accomodate him. HE said HE was ashamed of the porn blah blah. I did make snide remark when he was saying I was shallow and sexually demanding and sex didn't matter to him ("it matters when you look at porn") and I did get mad when I saw he had looked at it and I said NOTHING then he volunteered about it but claimed it "just showed up on screen" and THEN said my LACK OF TRUST really worried him when he continued to deny what the keylogger confirmed. I was not as much pissed about the porn but that he tried to make his unsolicited lies and evasion MY issue with "trust". C'mon!!! Unfair!!!

 

But, porn is a problem if it's a problem. It isn't fair of anyone to tell anyone else how they "SHOULD" feel about it. Now that sexless phase is over, there are no signs that H looks at it. But, I know he fantasizes about real women he knows, and I honestly would probably prefer the porn.

 

I admit it does seem strange to me for guys to insist it is no big deal but also not be willing to forego it for the sake of their SO's well being.

 

In the end, I just want my fair share of his genuine sexual interest. If he wants to bust a quick nut once in a while, I would not really care. I just want to continue to be loved and respected. Right now, I feel I am not. So it probably does irritate me more than it otherwise would ( at this point, masturbating to other women, not looking at porn).

 

Before me, he was a bachelor and king of the "I'm not looking for anything serious" relationship that measured out in weeks on average. In fact, I got the same speech as the rest of them about 'nothing serious', but I refused to see him anymore after and it took weeks for him to convince me to again (he was free to feel that way but my position was that if he had ruled me out long term, he was wasting my time). I would understand if he even resented that he can't do that anymore. But, I would not tolerate it. There's things I can't do anymore either. Life's a trade off. Grow up.

[JerseyShortie]

I admit it does seem strange to me for guys to insist it is no big deal but also not be willing to forego it for the sake of their SO's well being.

 

I think it's a bigger deal then men even care to admit to themselves. They down play it because they don't want to admit how ingrained porn has become for them. And while I think wanting to look at women and people having sex is natural, the amount of porn today that men look at isn't natural if you ask me. I find it ironic that we call people nakes for over eating food, but when it comes to porn, it's all okay. It's a funny menality we have on it.

 

And honestly, I fear that many men never grow out of those teenage years when they started viewing it. And what alot of women get stuck with are men who are still 15 in a 35+ year old body.

[tanbark813]

I think it's a bigger deal then men even care to admit to themselves. They down play it because they don't want to admit how ingrained porn has become for them. And while I think wanting to look at women and people having sex is natural, the amount of porn today that men look at isn't natural if you ask me. I find it ironic that we call people nakes for over eating food, but when it comes to porn, it's all okay. It's a funny menality we have on it.

 

And honestly, I fear that many men never grow out of those teenage years when they started viewing it. And what alot of women get stuck with are men who are still 15 in a 35+ year old body.

 

Funny that you quote me earlier saying I'm making statements to shame women who don't like porn and then you write the above to shame men who do. Hypocritical much?

 

Some women place FAR more meaning into porn than men do. That is, they think it means much more than it really does. It's nothing more than a tool for men. And for many women as well (some women posters keep conveniently overlooking the fact that porn isn't viewed solely by men).

 

You're (obviously) entitled to your opinion regarding liking it or not. I will say, though, I'm glad my gf not only doesn't have a problem with it but even likes it. We've even watched it together once. And I'd much rather be with a woman like that than one who bitches and moans about porn all the time, as I imagine many men would.

[Jersey Shortie]

If porn nis just a tool for men, then how come men defend it so vemontly instead of listening to the real woman in their life? If porn is merely a tool, how come so many men seem to need it to be statisfied with their sexual life?

 

And yes, I think you make statments that are meant to shame women from not liking porn.

 

I have no doubt that most men would rather be with a woman that likes porn then doesn't. It makes things much more easier for men all around when a woman responds to sexuality as a man would. It makes things much more eaiser for men all around when women are into porn, which is pretty much male dominted to male tastes. You can't deny that.

 

But I can tell you Tanbark, there are probably a lot more women out there that would be over joyed at their husband not using pornography at all. From the women who don't accept it at all, to the women that do manage to accept it in their relationship but don't exactly love it, even to the women that probably look at it themselves. They would probably get some sort of pleasure knowing that their man didn't need porn to feel sexually statisfied.

 

What isn't there for a man to love when he can have his girlfriend/wife AND porn to use both to his best possible outcome. He can watch x amount of women and get excited from them, and then use the real life person to finish the job. It's great. The only thing is that your wife/girlfriends ends up becoming another tool to finish you off and it would seem that some me nare more concerned with that then actually treating the woman next to them like she matters.

[tanbark813]

If porn nis just a tool for men, then how come men defend it so vemontly instead of listening to the real woman in their life?

 

Well first off, this question assumes all women dislike porn, which is false. As for defending it, I'll use this analogy: Porn is to sex what fast food is to filet mignon. I'd be perfectly happy eating filet mignon every day but I may occasionally want Taco Bell. While Taco Bell in and of itself means nothing to me, I wouldn't want a woman forbidding me from having it. I don't like someone telling me what I can or can't do, nor do a lot of people.

 

If porn is merely a tool, how come so many men seem to need it to be statisfied with their sexual life?

 

Depends on the guy. Not all do. In cases like luvstarved's husband, I have no idea why. He'd have to answer.

 

In many other cases, the wife or gf isn't always around or available for sex. Not every couple sees each other every day of the week.

 

And yes, I think you make statments that are meant to shame women from not liking porn.

 

Just like you make statements that are meant to shame men for viewing porn, as in the next quote below...

 

What isn't there for a man to love when he can have his girlfriend/wife AND porn to use both to his best possible outcome. He can watch x amount of women and get excited from them, and then use the real life person to finish the job. It's great. The only thing is that your wife/girlfriends ends up becoming another tool to finish you off and it would seem that some me nare more concerned with that then actually treating the woman next to them like she matters.

 

More false assumptions about men. Porn is a tool. My gf is not. Stop with the blatantly offensive generalizations and false assumptions. You think things about men that aren't true. Let go of your dislike of men and you'll be better off getting along with them.

[Jersey Shortie]

Well first off, this question assumes all women dislike porn, which is false. As for defending it, I'll use this analogy: Porn is to sex what fast food is to filet mignon. I'd be perfectly happy eating filet mignon every day but I may occasionally want Taco Bell. While Taco Bell in and of itself means nothing to me, I wouldn't want a woman forbidding me from having it. I don't like someone telling me what I can or can't do, nor do a lot of people.

 

 

I never said there aren't women out there that like it. But for the majority that don't really like it, or tolerate it, it's a fair question TanBark.

 

Women't aren't meat. And we aren't cars. We are people. Don't people deserve more consideration then comparing them to likinesses of Taco Bell and filet mignon. Don't we deserve to be treated be treated better then that? If you are treating women like you are treating your options between Taco Bell and filet mignog, we might have one answer to why women end up feeling disrsepected.

 

In many other cases, the wife or gf isn't always around or available for sex. Not every couple sees each other every day of the week.

 

So everytime you feel the urge, It's okay to act on it. No self control is required at all? I don't think porn is so much about self control as it is gives reason for men not to exercise self control. Afterall, how easy is it to remain true to a woman when a man is filling his head with ideas about other women in it's wake?

 

I often hear this given as an explanation and I can't help but thing think that if a man can't control himself the second his girlfriend isn't around, how do men manage to control themselves at all. If I ate chocolate everytime I felt like it, I would be huge. But I manage to use control. How come men don't deem this important in their sexual urges, just like any other part of life where control is important.

 

Just like you make statements that are meant to shame men for viewing porn, as in the next quote below...

 

Porn doesn't exactly treat women with respect.

 

 

More false assumptions about men. Porn is a tool. My gf is not. Stop with the blatantly offensive generalizations and false assumptions. You think things about men that aren't true. Let go of your dislike of men and you'll be better off getting along with them.

 

When a man is happy to use porn in conjecture with his gf/wife, I can't help but think that both are acting as a tool for him. Since obviously the sex isn't about her and him being together, it's about spicing thigns up with ideas about other women to get him going so he can finish with his wife/gf.

 

As for blatantly offensive generalizations and false asusmptions, I guess those only have a place in porn where most of the women are blatantly and offensively generalizied to meet a stereotypical fantasy image.

 

This is something else that I don't get. Men want respect. And alot of guys here get mad me for generalizing but what is porn but an obvious disrespect of women and ovvious generaliztion? You guys want respect and you don't want women to think you dislike women as a whole, but porn is the exact opposite of that. And considering that alot of men do like porn, how do you suppose women should believe that and not have their own generalations that men seem prone to buy into when it comes to porn?

 

Men want women to respect them and get mad when there are alot of women out there bothered by the blatant and obvious degradation of women in porn. I don't understand how men expect women to think they value them when men support something like pornwhich pretty much treats women like recycled garbage.

[carhill]

Sex with wife = fine dining experience. Get dressed up, smell nice, flowers, anticipation, not quite sure if she'll "like" the choice of restaurant or if the meal and service will be up to her standards.

 

Sex with porn = HomeTown buffet. Cheap, unlimited quantity and anything I want. Slog down there unshaven in my holey underwear and flip flops. I'm in control. It's all about me

[Mr. Lucky]

Women't aren't meat. And we aren't cars. We are people. Don't people deserve more consideration then comparing them to likinesses of Taco Bell and filet mignon.

He was using an analogy, Jersey, defined as a tool that:

 

"Analogy plays a significant role in problem solving, decision making, perception, memory, creativity, emotion, explanation and communication. It lies behind basic tasks such as the identification of places, objects and people, for example, in face perception and facial recognition systems. It has been argued that analogy is "the core of cognition"

 

So quit with the "women aren't meat". Those kinds of statements simply reveal your dogmatic inability to look at the real issues being discussed...

 

Mr. Lucky

[tanbark813]

Women't aren't meat. And we aren't cars. We are people. Don't people deserve more consideration then comparing them to likinesses of Taco Bell and filet mignon. Don't we deserve to be treated be treated better then that? If you are treating women like you are treating your options between Taco Bell and filet mignog, we might have one answer to why women end up feeling disrsepected.

 

 

I was comparing Taco Bell to porn, not to women. And aside from eating them, of course I don't treat women like tacos.

 

So everytime you feel the urge, It's okay to act on it. No self control is required at all?

 

I never said that. And as far as the urge goes, you'd understand more if you had as much testosterone in your system as a man does.

 

I don't think porn is so much about self control as it is gives reason for men not to exercise self control. Afterall, how easy is it to remain true to a woman when a man is filling his head with ideas about other women in it's wake?

 

I guarantee that a guy who uses porn as a release will find it much easier to remain faithful than a guy who is "forbidden" from using porn. The ideas about other women are there regardless of the existence of porn.

 

There are 6 billion people on this planet. Do you think anyone is only going to find ONE person in the entire world attractive? Please.

 

 

Porn doesn't exactly treat women with respect.

 

Well it depends on the kind of porn. Plus, the men in porn aren't exactly well-respected members of society. But that being said, the women in porn aren't exactly deserving of respect. Most men make a distinction between the kind of women in porn and the kind of women they would date. Unless you categorize yourself with the women in porn, why do you care?

 

When a man is happy to use porn in conjecture with his gf/wife, I can't help but think that both are acting as a tool for him. Since obviously the sex isn't about her and him being together, it's about spicing thigns up with ideas about other women to get him going so he can finish with his wife/gf.

 

Another false assumption.

 

This is something else that I don't get. Men want respect. And alot of guys here get mad me for generalizing but what is porn but an obvious disrespect of women and ovvious generaliztion? You guys want respect and you don't want women to think you dislike women as a whole, but porn is the exact opposite of that. And considering that alot of men do like porn, how do you suppose women should believe that and not have their own generalations that men seem prone to buy into when it comes to porn?

 

As stated above, there is a big difference between a porn star and a normal person.

[sfsassy]

With one of my exes, we saw each other once a week, or once every two weeks. It would have been really niave of me to think he didn't need a little porn at times. He never hid it, and at first was worried, I wouldn't like it. I told him I would rather him look at anonymous hot girls than have an affair. It was kind of funny one time, though. We were going to watch a movie, and so he put in the video (it was awhile ago!) and he had gotten the lesbian porn video by accident. He was soooooooo embarressed, but I just laughed.

Tanbark, I totally get the Taco Bell analogy too. OT, we both live in a area with really good Mexican food, but once in awhile I still like my Taco Bell.

[Mustang Sally]

the women in porn aren't exactly deserving of respect. Most men make a distinction between the kind of women in porn and the kind of women they would date.

Hmmm.

 

I'm getting to thread this late, admittedly.

But this statement hit me a litlle....well, distastefully, for lack of a better word at the moment.

 

Tanbark, could you elaborate on what, exactly, you mean by all of that, above? I don't want to arrive at any unfair or incorrect assumptions about your perspective.

[tanbark813]

OT, we both live in a area with really good Mexican food, but once in awhile I still like my Taco Bell.

 

I hear ya. There are a lot of great, little hole-in-the-wall taquerias around here.

 

Hmmm.

 

I'm getting to thread this late, admittedly.

But this statement hit me a litlle....well, distastefully, for lack of a better word at the moment.

 

Tanbark, could you elaborate on what, exactly, you mean by all of that, above? I don't want to arrive at any unfair or incorrect assumptions about your perspective.

 

Only a small percentage of women go into porn for a living. One of JS's arguments is that women aren't treated with respect in porn, but why should they be?

 

It's nice and PC to say that everyone is equal and everyone is deserving of respect but it's not realistic. I wouldn't date a porn star. Not many men I know would. Not just because of the way they make their money--though that's certainly part of it--but if a woman is in the porn industry, then there's something wrong with her. Bad childhood, drug issues, mental instability, whatever.. But she's not gf or wife material.

 

I have much more respect for a woman who is a doctor or engineer or retail clerk than I do for a porn star. The statement you quoted basically stems from my assumption that most people shared that view and I just figured it was a given.

 

Men don't look at porn, see women being disrespected, and think, "Oh it must be okay for ALL women then." It doesn't happen like that.

 

TBH, the porn where women are blatantly degraded I don't really even like. But not all porn is like that. In some porn the guys practically worship the women.

 

Finally, no one is forced to be in the porn industry. If the women in porn don't like the lack of respect, they're free to leave at any time and pursue a more worthwhile career.

[Mustang Sally]

Ok. Gotcha.

Thanks for the clarification!

[JerseyShortie]

Sex with wife = fine dining experience. Get dressed up, smell nice, flowers, anticipation, not quite sure if she'll "like" the choice of restaurant or if the meal and service will be up to her standards.

 

Sex with porn = HomeTown buffet. Cheap, unlimited quantity and anything I want. Slog down there unshaven in my holey underwear and flip flops. I'm in control. It's all about me

 

I have also seen other guys say this before. Which leads me to to the conclusion that men need both to be happy. They need both porn and wife/gf to have a happily fullfilled wife. And then men wonder why women are insecure or feel lacking. It's partly because they see that their husbands are happy with them and their feminine selves. That they need something like porn to use in conjecture with their real life relationships. Which can be hurtful.

 

It is really rather disheartening. And despite the cheap quality of porn, it is still something men want and use in conjecture with their real life relationships, thus again proving that men need it to be satisfied with their wives/gfs.

 

 

He was using an analogy, Jersey, defined as a tool that:

 

Thank you Mr. Lucky. I do understand what an anology is. The fact that one could compare a real live human being to the desires for an object like food and cars, doesn't translate very well. Or maybe it does since women are only seen as objects in porn, so why shouldn't they be seen that way by their man in real life as well?

 

I was comparing Taco Bell to porn, not to women. And aside from eating them, of course I don't treat women like tacos.

 

I understand your comparison. I don't agree that it is a very good one due to the fact that I would hope a real live human would be granted more consideration.

 

 

I never said that. And as far as the urge goes, you'd understand more if you had as much testosterone in your system as a man does.

 

But saying that men use porn when his woman isn't there to placate him with sex, is like saying that men shouldn't be expected to have self control. Saying that porn is used so that men don't have to cheat, again is like saying that men shouldn't be expected to have self control.

 

As for having testoserone in your system, I am sure I would understand it better..but then you might understand the other side better with more estrogen in yours. You want women to be understanding of your "nature" but I see view men that want to give understanding in return.

 

Well it depends on the kind of porn. Plus, the men in porn aren't exactly well-respected members of society. But that being said, the women in porn aren't exactly deserving of respect. Most men make a distinction between the kind of women in porn and the kind of women they would date. Unless you categorize yourself with the women in porn, why do you care?

 

Men don't seem to get the stigma that women do. And there doesn't seem to be as much that puts men down as it does with women.

 

I care because it sucks seeing a man you care about and love, get off on seeing other women treated like less then human and enjoy watching women in general disrespected. Because porn is really a general lack of respect for women. And it makes me question how he views women. I don't really understand how men can't understand how this would raise questions.

 

 

Another false assumption.

 

Well I am sorry but you have me confused on this. Because first you make the comment that men sometimes need "taco-bell" and other times need "filet Mignon" and then tell me I make a false assumption by coming to the conclusion that then men must need both wife/gf and porn to feel satisfied with his sex life. So which is it? Make up your mind. You can't have one without the other.

 

 

It's nice and PC to say that everyone is equal and everyone is deserving of respect but it's not realistic. I wouldn't date a porn star. Not many men I know would. Not just because of the way they make their money--though that's certainly part of it--but if a woman is in the porn industry, then there's something wrong with her. Bad childhood, drug issues, mental instability, whatever.. But she's not gf or wife material.

 

THis is another thing that bothers me. I agree that if a woman is in porn, she has huge issues in 95% of the cases. And that being somethign we can agree on, it bothers me even more that men rather exploit that then not.

 

I also find it somewhat hypocritical that men love porn, love watching the women in porn and consider then their "fantasy", yet perversly men think less of them for only giving them exactly what they want. It's somewhat hypocritcal.

[tanbark813]

JS - You read too much into what I write and put too many words in my mouth for it to be worth my time to continue to respond to you.

[Mustang Sally]

Hmmm.

Methinks maybe we all (women AND men) need to ratchet the sphincters down a little with the whole porn-issue...

 

Men maybe need to get over their "primal" (?) selves a bit (although, as sure as I'm typing this, I have to admit that the primitiveness of men - generally speaking - is sometimes what I love about them...know what I mean?) and be understanding of times when the woman in their life is threatened by such dalliances, and be willing to self-sacrifice a bit, out of love and concern for one's significant other....?

 

And women need to ease up on letting such dalliances have such profound effects on their self-esteem, self-worth, and personal confidence.

 

As was stated in another thread...if he's using the porn, maybe she can acquire a nice bunny vibrator that she - of her own volition - can then use to hit just the right spot, just the right way? Hell - maybe they can use porn and the bunny vibrator together? But also allow each other the freedom to enjoy respective dalliances individually without making a huge deal out of it? We are - it goes without saying - different creatures: male and female, no?

 

Nevertheless...in lieu of perfect harmony and world peace in the bedroom...usually when two people in a relationship want/prefer different things, the one who wants the LEAST (or the "rate-limiting individual," as I like to think of it ) is usually the one who "wins," by default.

 

I can work this out as a "law of necessity" in my own mind, and personally spend no precious time debating the "rightness" or "wrongness" of this, even though I can see where it is inherently unfair to the other one - who wants more, or the MOST.

 

Maybe men (I'm generalizing here, admittedly gender-stereotypically) are a bit fed up with this "law of necessity" (if you will) in these debates about the "rightness" or "wrongness" of porn...and so that is why there is this (generallly) "male" attitude about porn that Jersey Shortie is taking issue with?

[JerseyShortie]

JS - You read too much into what I write and put too many words in my mouth for it to be worth my time to continue to respond to you.

 

 

Sorry, wasn't trying to. I was asking earnestly.

[carhill]

For the record, short of a long past ended subscription to Playboy I had for a number of years when single, I don't "pay" for porn. Usenet

 

So, if I compare my porn to my wife's porn (her romance novels), mine is free and takes up no space whereas hers requires bookshelves (and bags and boxes and space under nightstands and, well, you get the picture ) and gas (@ 4.50/gal) to go to the bookstore and time just to acquire the porn, much less use it.

 

Of course, all that keeps her outta my hair. Between work and shopping and porn, my wife has no time for me at all. Like I said, a fine dining experience

 

This was a thread about "snide responses to porn", so, appropriately, humor mode is engaged....

[Mr. Lucky]

As was stated in another thread...if he's using the porn, maybe she can acquire a nice bunny vibrator that she - of her own volition - can then use to hit just the right spot, just the right way? Hell - maybe they can use porn and the bunny vibrator together? But also allow each other the freedom to enjoy respective dalliances individually without making a huge deal out of it? We are - it goes without saying - different creatures: male and female, no?

Wait a second, someone actually making sense? In a Porn Thread? I'm so stunned I don't know what else to post...

 

Mr. Lucky