Woggle Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Notice I said misogynist not male chauvinist and there is a big difference. A male chauvinist believes in strict gender roles while a misogynist plain just doesn't think highly of most women. I am in the latter group though I will give a woman a chance and I admit that good ones do exist. Most men are naive as to how many women are out there that will chew their hearts up and spit them out. They still have that knight in shining armor complex where they think that most women who have relationship are victims instead of drama addicts who wouldn't know how to handle a healthy relationship. When they get married and find themselves bored they go out and cheat with the confidence that they will be able to find another good woman if they do get a divorce. They can have filet mignon at home and they think there is an endless supply of it in the dating world so they take their risks. They just love women and they want as many of them as they can have. They think great women are in abundance so they don't appreciate it when they do find one. Men like me on the other hand have seen the dark side of the female gender and we know how common these women are. We have been victims of a poisonus woman and we have had our hearts chewed up and spit out. That is why when we find a rare great woman we truly appreciate her because we know how rare she is and we know that we have filet mignon at home while most other men are dining on rotten entrails. We risk ruining it with a rare gem for some cheap thrills with a snake? Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Yes I'm sure... Same as bitter, hard-core feminists make good wives.. They should be matched together.. Link to post Share on other sites
Order & Chaos Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Notice I said misogynist not male chauvinist and there is a big difference. A male chauvinist believes in strict gender roles while a misogynist plain just doesn't think highly of most women. I am in the latter group though I will give a woman a chance and I admit that good ones do exist. Most men are naive as to how many women are out there that will chew their hearts up and spit them out. They still have that knight in shining armor complex where they think that most women who have relationship are victims instead of drama addicts who wouldn't know how to handle a healthy relationship. When they get married and find themselves bored they go out and cheat with the confidence that they will be able to find another good woman if they do get a divorce. They can have filet mignon at home and they think there is an endless supply of it in the dating world so they take their risks. They just love women and they want as many of them as they can have. They think great women are in abundance so they don't appreciate it when they do find one. Men like me on the other hand have seen the dark side of the female gender and we know how common these women are. We have been victims of a poisonus woman and we have had our hearts chewed up and spit out. That is why when we find a rare great woman we truly appreciate her because we know how rare she is and we know that we have filet mignon at home while most other men are dining on rotten entrails. We risk ruining it with a rare gem for some cheap thrills with a snake? Those with victim mentalities never make good partners. Why even think of dating with this mind set. Please seek help. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Misogyny is defined as the hatred and distrust of women. A misogynist hates and distrust women. A male chauvinist believes in the inferiority of women. How can you hate and distrust a woman and not believe they are inferior to you? You hate and distrust them and feel this way because they are lacking in some way you are not. These are the definitions of the terms. You can make your own distinctions, but you'll need to rewrite the dictionary to do so. The way you justify your prejudiced feelings is by rewording the definitions just enough to think it absolves you. It would be like me saying I hate and distrust all black people, but I am not racist. I'm not racist because its not my fault they all steal and use guns. I'd make an excellent friend to the rare black person that doesn't steal or use guns because I know how common it is for them to do so and won't leave my non-stealing non-shooting black friend for one that most likely would steal and shoot. But I'm certainly not racist! Pu-leeeese! Paint it anyway you like, it is still you being prejudiced against women. If you want to call yourself anything in regards to this, call yourself a liar or a hypocrite. You are either lying about how much you hate, distrust, and feel yourself to be better than women, or you do feel that way but were to much of a hypocrite to not be able to remain the staunch bachelor. Still willing to wait in line to see santa so you can cry on his lap all over again. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 I don't feel that women are inferior nor do I feel that they are by nature evil but society has created a monster. I had all intentions of remaining a bachelor after my divorce but I got lucky and met an exception. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Does your mother know you feel this way, woggle....? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Does your mother know you feel this way, woggle....? Yes and she is a major reason why I feel this way. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I don't feel that women are inferior nor do I feel that they are by nature evil but society has created a monster. I had all intentions of remaining a bachelor after my divorce but I got lucky and met an exception. Your argument might have a leg to stand on if the created monster you call woman was doing anything both genders don't do. And your excuse that you intended to remain a bachelor but you met one of the rare good ones might hold water if you didn't still come on here and often fret about her capabilities to be the same way and the possibilities she just duped you into believing she was different. But its all cool cause you got your prenupt and won't allow yourself to be invested enough to not be able to move on quickly in that event. There are even times you can't be around your wife because of the actions or words of a different and completely unrelated woman. If you really believed society created a monster, then why are you not coming on here spitting bile about society and all the ways we could correct the ways we raise our children? I'd be real interested to read your suggestions. But you don't do this, you only howl about women because you don't care so much when men do the equivalent to women that you think women do to men. And you don't care about it so much because why? Oh yeah, because you're a misogynist AND a chauvinist. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I pick box C: Men who truly love, respect and enjoy the way women are while realizing we have our faults. Men like me on the other hand have seen the dark side of the female gender and we know how common these women are. We have been victims of a poisonus woman and we have had our hearts chewed up and spit out. That is why when we find a rare great woman we truly appreciate her because we know how rare she is and we know that we have filet mignon at home while most other men are dining on rotten entrails. We risk ruining it with a rare gem for some cheap thrills with a snake? Well, that's because men are perfect you know and never do anything that hurts women. Link to post Share on other sites
demrea Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I pick box C: Men who truly love, respect and enjoy the way women are while realizing we have our faults. note this post ... i found something i can relate to with JS. you are right, this the way it should work, both ways. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I dunno. If I was stuck in a relationship with a prime-grade pendejo who was a misogynist or male chauvinist oinker, I'd simply have to kill him. Or myself. Because there's no call for that kind of thinking IF your intention is to share your life with someone ... you put yourself out there and work for the best of said relationship, even though you understand you leave yourself vulnerable. There are too many good men and women out there to be wasting time with someone who's got those kinds of relationship issues. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Yes and she is a major reason why I feel this way. The poor woman. Worked hard for 9 months and had a son like you. You're a nasty piece of work, and fortunately, you're in the grand minority, which is getting smaller all the time. Your attitudes and comments are both destructive and confrontational. Whilst I know LS welcomes discussions and debates on all manner of topics, I'm of the opinion that your kind of membership is far from desirable. I think it might be a good idea if you went away and founded a forum specifically for hardened misogynysts, because I don't think this is the kind of forum that will tolerate you for too long. Mind you, that might have a membership but not a huge one. And what would you find to debatre about? I think you thrive on hatred. Shame. It must feel awful to have such resentment and anger in your heart, and not be open to change of attitude..... GW Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I think it might be a good idea if you went away and founded a forum specifically for hardened misogynysts, because I don't think this is the kind of forum that will tolerate you for too long. Well, I'm no great fan of his either but apparently he and his views are tolerated as evidenced by his post count and 3 year membership here. Anywho to be on topic...I would not marry a misogynist or a chauvinist. They're both bad news. See my fear as your wife would be that after the honeymoon period, which you're still in, you'll start to find stuff to distrust me about and pick at. In my book you'd be a "bad risk" as far as marriage material. So your wife is either a gambler (which I'm not) or is clueless about your views on women. I hope you don't end up letting each other down. My prediction though is that within another two years you're going to start distrusting her and picking at her. Right now, you have her on a pedestal. She has nowhere to fall but down. I do wish you well though. Link to post Share on other sites
Lookingforward Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I don't feel that women are inferior nor do I feel that they are by nature evil but society has created a monster. I had all intentions of remaining a bachelor after my divorce but I got lucky and met an exception. Who is ONLY an 'exception' until you decide otherwise..... how VERY convenient for you that you found one LOL and back on topic - wtf would a misogynist even WANT to M ? Unless of course he's also a sadist (and the prospective bride would require a little masochistic tendency as well) Link to post Share on other sites
blair08 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Yes and she is a major reason why I feel this way. Did you seek help for why you feel the way you do towards her? If so, what did they tell you? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Cliché time! There's always a silver lining to every dark cloud! Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Nest there will be a thread: Men who watch porn make better lovers/parters then those who don't. Link to post Share on other sites
Lookingforward Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Nest there will be a thread: Men who watch porn make better lovers/parters then those who don't. Except to you ,not EVERYthing is about porn - give it a rest already - don't you have enough porn threads to work with that you have to intrude it on every other thread ? This thread is NOT about porn........ Link to post Share on other sites
porter218 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Notice I said misogynist not male chauvinist and there is a big difference. A male chauvinist believes in strict gender roles while a misogynist plain just doesn't think highly of most women. I am in the latter group though I will give a woman a chance and I admit that good ones do exist. Most men are naive as to how many women are out there that will chew their hearts up and spit them out. They still have that knight in shining armor complex where they think that most women who have relationship are victims instead of drama addicts who wouldn't know how to handle a healthy relationship. When they get married and find themselves bored they go out and cheat with the confidence that they will be able to find another good woman if they do get a divorce. They can have filet mignon at home and they think there is an endless supply of it in the dating world so they take their risks. They just love women and they want as many of them as they can have. They think great women are in abundance so they don't appreciate it when they do find one. Men like me on the other hand have seen the dark side of the female gender and we know how common these women are. We have been victims of a poisonus woman and we have had our hearts chewed up and spit out. That is why when we find a rare great woman we truly appreciate her because we know how rare she is and we know that we have filet mignon at home while most other men are dining on rotten entrails. We risk ruining it with a rare gem for some cheap thrills with a snake? Wow! I actually am amazed to say this makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 The poor woman. Worked hard for 9 months and had a son like you. You're a nasty piece of work, and fortunately, you're in the grand minority, which is getting smaller all the time. Your attitudes and comments are both destructive and confrontational. Whilst I know LS welcomes discussions and debates on all manner of topics, I'm of the opinion that your kind of membership is far from desirable. I think it might be a good idea if you went away and founded a forum specifically for hardened misogynysts, because I don't think this is the kind of forum that will tolerate you for too long. Mind you, that might have a membership but not a huge one. And what would you find to debatre about? I think you thrive on hatred. Shame. It must feel awful to have such resentment and anger in your heart, and not be open to change of attitude..... GW Go back and read what he has already posted about his mother. Not all moms are created equal. Some are really crappy. Just like when you see a stripper... you pretty much know she had a crappy dad. So too, when you see a bitter, angry man like Woggle, you can pretty much know his Mom was worthless. Misogynists, are guys that are bitter about failed relationships. Femenists, are women that can't get dates. Link to post Share on other sites
michelangelo Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 What I get out of this posting, if we can please stay on thread, is that both genders encounter a lot of crappy people on the way to finding someone good. In a way, I agree with the OP in that it has been my experience too, that there are a lot of dishonorable women that are willing to play games with a man, use 'em for their assets, then move on to the next guy, and even make that move on while still with the man and lying to their face. But is that every woman? No way! Honorable women exist, of course. The same can be said about men. Both men and women can choose an honerable path and many do not choose that path ever, others choose it for part of their life, then stop. Sometimes it is about character, sometimes it is illness, sometimes they just give up, it being too hard for them to stay the course. I like to believe that sociopaths are rare. Link to post Share on other sites
torranceshipman Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Lots of women on this forum (maybe even just in this thread) have been burnt multiple times by men who have treated them really badly, when they haven't done anything to deserve it (e.g. the guy has pretended to be interested and used them for sex, or they've cheated on them, or lied to them, or insert a multitude of other hideous factors here). Many men, of course, have also been on the receiving end of this, but virtually noone on this board is as bitter and nasty and woman-hating about it as you. Newsflash-you're not the only person in the world to have been treated like crap-and it happens to men AND women, but you've got a bigger victim 'poor me' mentality than I've ever seen before. You might be a very handsome, clever guy but if you have this bitter mentality-believe me, most women would run a mile from you because its so unpleasant and alienating. Link to post Share on other sites
The Collector Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Lots of women on this forum (maybe even just in this thread) have been burnt multiple times by men who have treated them really badly, when they haven't done anything to deserve it Lots of women on this forum (and in the real world) are or have been irresistibly drawn to bad boys and bastards and get burnt when they fail to change them. Many were well aware of the type of man they were choosing and what sort of men they were rejecting by default. That much supports Woggles point of view. And if you say women don't find bastards sexy, you're in that place that sounds like benial. Link to post Share on other sites
annieo Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm confused, woggle. You claim to say (in previous threads) that you've found a good one, but you have also stated that women are devious and can't be trusted, can change their feelings on a dime. I wonder that you can be so sure of your rare good woman. And so sure about other women you know nothing about. Does she have a gps installed (unknown to her) in her head? Her car? Have you got her keylocked on the computer? Do you follow her every move? Does she ever talk to other men? Does she ever seem slightly distant, unhappy? I mean, if you're going to be paranoid, please be consistent about it. No one can be trusted. Am I not correct? Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 YAWN! I'd almost be willing to pay to see you come up with an original thought. With apologies to Herman's Hermits (who were no doubt hermits to avoid entanglement with those crafty females), "Second verse same as the first!" Link to post Share on other sites
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