Why misogynists make better husbands.

[Curmudgeon]

I guess that when all you have is a shortie, porn's as close to sex as you can get.

[D-Lish]

Woggle, I don't think you actually WANT to hate.

I think you have had bad experiences with the primary female role model in your life (mom)... and many of your problems henceforce have kept you in this negative cycle of anger and distrust. You choose what is familiar...if your mom was a bad role model, it's no wonder you can't see what a trusting relationship might look like.

 

How can you choose a good partner in your state of anger and mistrust?

You can't! You won't even attract one when you are this bitter. You're going to attract unhealthy chicks that will only validate your view that women are horrible evil creatures.

 

If you are an angry, bitter guy- you will attract an insecure unhappy woman. It's no wonder that would cause problems for you and further exacerbate the issues you have with women.

 

If you ever do attract a healthy stable girl- you will drive her away pretty quickly with your attitude of anger and mistrust. Just understand that- a good, stable, happy woman, won't remain with an angry bitter guy.

 

When you expect that all women are going to suck ass... you'll keep attracting women that suck ass.

 

It's up to you though dude- you can change all this and deal with what is eating away at you... or you'll keep reinforcing your negative beliefs by remaining in this pit.

 

So many of your posts are angry and hateful... but I still don't think you WANT to hate. Am I wrong? If I am, I'll just slink away and keep my comments to myself.

[johan]

If I started up an online profile, should I put "misogynist" on it? In order to attract the marrying kind?

 

ha ha. Actually I think that would be funny as hell. I'm sure some women would respond just to see if I was serious.

[johan]

Am I wrong? If I am, I'll just slink away and keep my comments to myself.

 

If you do any slinking, let me know. It seems like something I should see.

[Touche]

If I started up an online profile, should I put "misogynist" on it? In order to attract the marrying kind?

 

ha ha. Actually I think that would be funny as hell. I'm sure some women would respond just to see if I was serious.

 

This is no joke. I'm really into true life crime stuff. You wouldn't believe how many women write to guys on death row.

 

It's weird but very real.

[D-Lish]

If you do any slinking, let me know. It seems like something I should see.

 

slinking is very catwomanish!

[Touche]

Woggle, I don't think you actually WANT to hate.

I think you have had bad experiences with the primary female role model in your life (mom)... and many of your problems henceforce have kept you in this negative cycle of anger and distrust. You choose what is familiar...if your mom was a bad role model, it's no wonder you can't see what a trusting relationship might look like.

 

How can you choose a good partner in your state of anger and mistrust?

You can't! You won't even attract one when you are this bitter. You're going to attract unhealthy chicks that will only validate your view that women are horrible evil creatures.

 

If you are an angry, bitter guy- you will attract an insecure unhappy woman. It's no wonder that would cause problems for you and further exacerbate the issues you have with women.

 

If you ever do attract a healthy stable girl- you will drive her away pretty quickly with your attitude of anger and mistrust. Just understand that- a good, stable, happy woman, won't remain with an angry bitter guy.

 

When you expect that all women are going to suck ass... you'll keep attracting women that suck ass.

 

It's up to you though dude- you can change all this and deal with what is eating away at you... or you'll keep reinforcing your negative beliefs by remaining in this pit.

 

So many of your posts are angry and hateful... but I still don't think you WANT to hate. Am I wrong? If I am, I'll just slink away and keep my comments to myself.

 

DLish, he's found a wife. Did you know that?

[Sum1'sGot2RepThe530]

Nest there will be a thread: Men who watch porn make better lovers/parters then those who don't.

 

Except to you ,not EVERYthing is about porn - give it a rest already - don't you have enough porn threads to work with that you have to intrude it on every other thread ?

 

This thread is NOT about porn........

 

Lol, JS, I feel bad for you, I really do. You're obsessed.

[Woggle]

I try not to be so negative towards women but I can't deny what is right in front of me. I can't deny what many of my friends are going through and what I hear many women say.

 

A man can never be 100% sure about a woman but her signing that prenup with no fight and her sticking around after my ex went psycho on us spoke volumnes. A woman's character comes to the surface when times are rough and she passed the test with flying colors. My ex could have killed her and she still stuck around. That is love.

[Untouchable_Fire]

It's up to you though dude- you can change all this and deal with what is eating away at you... or you'll keep reinforcing your negative beliefs by remaining in this pit.

So many of your posts are angry and hateful... but I still don't think you WANT to hate. Am I wrong? If I am, I'll just slink away and keep my comments to myself.

 

I think you very correct in your assessment. So, slink back here! Your the first helpful person on this thread.

 

I try not to be so negative towards women but I can't deny what is right in front of me. I can't deny what many of my friends are going through and what I hear many women say.

A man can never be 100% sure about a woman but her signing that prenup with no fight and her sticking around after my ex went psycho on us spoke volumnes. A woman's character comes to the surface when times are rough and she passed the test with flying colors. My ex could have killed her and she still stuck around. That is love.

 

And yet... do you still find it hard to trust?

[Taramere]

we know that we have filet mignon at home while most other men are dining on rotten entrails.

 

You and that metaphor should get a room together. How many times have you used it on this forum now?

 

Lots of women on this forum (and in the real world) are or have been irresistibly drawn to bad boys and bastards and get burnt when they fail to change them.

 

The definition of a bitch or a bastard is probably anyone you want who doesn't want you. Object relations. Faulty attachments and rejections in early life encouraging people to identify and fixate on rejecting objects well into adult life. It's a human tendency, but a faulty, weak and often problematic one. As a weakness, it's embarrassing to have - so like any other weakness that makes a person feel like a victim, it gets projected onto women as a "female characteristic". It's not. It's a human one.

 

It's extremely difficult and humbling to face up to your own weaknesses. I think so, anyway. It's actually easier to think in terms of "I've been a bad person" than "I've been a weak one." And I'm a woman. Weakness in a woman is something society derides, but is unsurprised by, whereas weakness in a man is viewed a great deal more harshly. The notion of being perceived as weak is something that absolutely terrifies a lot of men. That in itself is one of men's greatest weaknesses. How many men have fought and been killed in wars they didn't believe in, because they were afraid of being perceived as weak?

[Order & Chaos]

I try not to be so negative towards women but I can't deny what is right in front of me. I can't deny what many of my friends are going through and what I hear many women say.

 

A man can never be 100% sure about a woman but her signing that prenup with no fight and her sticking around after my ex went psycho on us spoke volumnes. A woman's character comes to the surface when times are rough and she passed the test with flying colors. My ex could have killed her and she still stuck around. That is love.

 

No, that's insanity; learn the difference.

[Woggle]

No, that's insanity; learn the difference.

 

So sticking by the person you claim to love when times are rough is insanity?

[Order & Chaos]

So sticking by the person you claim to love when times are rough is insanity?

Absolutey when it involves an ex and attempted murder. I would think that is obvious.

[Jersey Shortie]

Lol, JS, I feel bad for you, I really do. You're obsessed.

 

 

Hey, that's fine. I feel bad for alot of women in general that we are made to deal with this hurtful issue and seem to be on a shortage of men who really care for us.

[SunnySideUp]

Notice I said misogynist not male chauvinist and there is a big difference. A male chauvinist believes in strict gender roles while a misogynist plain just doesn't think highly of most women. I am in the latter group though I will give a woman a chance and I admit that good ones do exist.

 

Most men are naive as to how many women are out there that will chew their hearts up and spit them out. They still have that knight in shining armor complex where they think that most women who have relationship are victims instead of drama addicts who wouldn't know how to handle a healthy relationship.

 

When they get married and find themselves bored they go out and cheat with the confidence that they will be able to find another good woman if they do get a divorce. They can have filet mignon at home and they think there is an endless supply of it in the dating world so they take their risks. They just love women and they want as many of them as they can have. They think great women are in abundance so they don't appreciate it when they do find one.

 

Men like me on the other hand have seen the dark side of the female gender and we know how common these women are. We have been victims of a poisonus woman and we have had our hearts chewed up and spit out. That is why when we find a rare great woman we truly appreciate her because we know how rare she is and we know that we have filet mignon at home while most other men are dining on rotten entrails. We risk ruining it with a rare gem for some cheap thrills with a snake?

 

wow. I feel so sorry for you. This is why I think everyone should see psychologists and relationship/marriage therapists. Men and women are different, that goes without question. When they can learn to work together a beautiful thing can happen. When relationships are left to their own devices they can self-destruct.

[annieo]

I try not to be so negative towards women but I can't deny what is right in front of me. I can't deny what many of my friends are going through and what I hear many women say.

 

A man can never be 100% sure about a woman but her signing that prenup with no fight and her sticking around after my ex went psycho on us spoke volumnes. A woman's character comes to the surface when times are rough and she passed the test with flying colors. My ex could have killed her and she still stuck around. That is love.

 

No, that is drama. How long have you two been together? How long has it been smooth sailing (although I would imagine with you, smooth sailing is perhaps stretching it a bit)?

I wonder how she'll be when things calm down and it's not you and her against the world. When the inevitable boredom sets in. I wonder how you'll be.

I think a person's character really comes out over the long haul, not in the pitched battle or the heat of new passion. If women are all faithless, vain wanderers, that will show up later on.

Or maybe you can trust her. But from the sounds of things, you'll destroy that pretty quickly with your attitude.

[Curmudgeon]

Absolutey when it involves an ex and attempted murder. I would think that is obvious.

 

It's also obvious that sticking with someone who hates, distrusts, fears and belittles women is not exactly a sign of good mental hygiene if you happen to be a woman.

[johan]

I think people aren't giving Woggle enough credit. He's been married for a while now. I get the impression they are pretty happy. It would be interesting to have her come on here and give her side of the story though. But if there was a lot of conflict, I'd think we'd know by now.

 

So regardless of whatever crazy stuff he comes on here to say, it seems like his behavior must not be consistent with his theories. And actions are more important than words.

[Touche]

I think people aren't giving Woggle enough credit. He's been married for a while now. I get the impression they are pretty happy. It would be interesting to have her come on here and give her side of the story though. But if there was a lot of conflict, I'd think we'd know by now.

 

So regardless of whatever crazy stuff he comes on here to say, it seems like his behavior must not be consistent with his theories. And actions are more important than words.

 

I agree but how long can one go on and not have one's thoughts affect one's actions?

[Curmudgeon]

I think people aren't giving Woggle enough credit. He's been married for a while now. I get the impression they are pretty happy. It would be interesting to have her come on here and give her side of the story though. But if there was a lot of conflict, I'd think we'd know by now.

 

So regardless of whatever crazy stuff he comes on here to say, it seems like his behavior must not be consistent with his theories. And actions are more important than words.

 

The other possibiity is that it's all BS, both his marriage and his single-subject rantings here, and he's just trying to get attention because he doesn't get it elsewhere.

[johan]

I agree but how long can one go on and not have one's thoughts affect one's actions?

 

Hard to say. Maybe Woggle's thoughts do affect his actions, but not in any way his wife can't tolerate. Or maybe after he vents on here, he feels better and doesn't have a need to act out at home. Just theories.

 

The other possibiity is that it's all BS, both his marriage and his single-subject rantings here, and he's just trying to get attention because he doesn't get it elsewhere.

 

It's not unthinkable. But I've never had my BS alarm go off with Woggle. I just tend to wonder why his point of view never changes at all. It seems like someone who is relatively smart and capable of introspection would be able to adjust a bit. I take him at his word, because evidence to the contrary isn't available.

[Woggle]

I will say that my last serious relationship, the guy was a year out of a divorce in which he discovered his wife had been cheating on him for 7 years with a family friend.

He treated me like gold because his exwife had put him through so much hell throughout most of their 15 year marriage (not just the cheating, she went out and partied all the time and shot out the door to party after he got homehad been working 12 hour days and then he was left with the kids - sex was about once every 6 months throughout the whole marriage)

 

Anyhoo, because I enjoyed his company and showed him what I saw as basic kindness, he was floored.

 

 

This is how it is with my wife. After being used and abused by the women in my life I finally found a woman that knows how to treat a man and though I sometimes feel insecure about my marriage I truly do appreciate it.

[Curmudgeon]

I try to look at what he says objectively and apply it to both sexes. Like what he is saying, is that, often partners who have been through relationship hell with someone else often make good partners because they will appreciate you more because you are better than the last partner they were with.

 

The flip side of the coin is that they're so paranoid they're extremely unstable and incapable of true commitment.

 

Of course, then there are all those who fall somewhere in between the extremes.

[Woggle]

I do try to adjust and I have at times thought I was being too hard on women but I can't deny what is right in front me. I only have to look at your average relationship board to see that much of what I say is true. Just take a look at this board.