lovestruck818 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 sorry, poorly written on my part. What I meant is that I could tell you why you've never jumped a queue or avoided a fine due to your looks. What is supposed to mean? Considering...I live in NYC and you live in Australia and we've never met... RIIIIGHT Link to post Share on other sites
lovestruck818 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 sorry, poorly written on my part. What I meant is that I could tell you why you've never jumped a queue or avoided a fine due to your looks. I also have never jumped a line or gotten out of a ticket due to looks b/c I haven't tried. I don't think I am better than anyone else. I deserve to wait on line just like everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 it isn't something so specific that I need to know you personally or have met you, it's not that complicated. Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I also have never jumped a line or gotten out of a ticket due to looks b/c I haven't tried. I don't think I am better than anyone else. I deserve to wait on line just like everyone else. Ah ok then that explains it, you simply haven't tried. Many don't share your attitude though, in fact most don't. Link to post Share on other sites
lovestruck818 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 it isn't something so specific that I need to know you personally or have met you, it's not that complicated. You're so quick to judge. You are probably just jealous or whatever and have terrible self-esteem. Anyone who judges someone like that without having met them has to. Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 My self-esteem isn't as good as it could be but it isn't terrible and I'm not jealous. I'm also not judging you. In fact it looks as if you're judging me going by your above post! Doesn't bother me though, judge away You said you haven't tried to gain advantage from your looks, now I know why you haven't experienced it. Link to post Share on other sites
lovestruck818 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 My self-esteem isn't as good as it could be but it isn't terrible and I'm not jealous. I'm also not judging you. In fact it looks as if you're judging me going by your above post! Doesn't bother me though, judge away You said you haven't tried to gain advantage from your looks, now I know why you haven't experienced it. Thank you...sorry for mistunderstanding then, my bad. The truth is, no matter how good-looking, smart, nice, successful, rich someone is no one is better than anyone else...and they should not try to get certain things over someone else just b/c they are those things. It is realy quite obnoxious. Seriously, who do those people think they are? I'm not better than anyone else and I don't try to act like it. I'm just a regular girl with the same problems as everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I'm not better than anyone else and I don't try to act like it. I'm just a regular girl with the same problems as everyone else. This is an important consideration some people overlook when projecting their own opinions/feelings/judgements upon others solely because of their external appearance. In your case, they may have prejudged you even before you're aware of their presence, maybe because you don't judge them by their appearance and wait to validate their humanity in other ways. I know, for me, when out in public, I "see" a world of two dimensional beings, but once in the company of another, that person "expands" for me. This is an emotional experience, a sensing of their humanity. It's like their individuality morphs from the sea of non-unique humanity. I've practiced this when in NYC, since it's a great place to get lost amongst people on the street Since most of my travel is on airplanes, I meet lots of "good-looking" people there and in related public spaces. I've personally found no rule of thumb for their behavior as correlating to their looks. I've taken away a plethora of perceptions, as I'm sure they have of me. I've found, being overwhelmingly average and forgettable myself, I get the best results and make the most travel friends by being pleasant, humorous and empathetic. Whether that "looks" good to others, I have no idea Link to post Share on other sites
cutegirl Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Your X sounds like less than a quality guy, really, and you people are chewing me out about this ? Well, he was mean to guys too, not just good looking women. He was mean to everyone equally. He wasn't "mean", only very irritable when he received bad customer service/wasn't greeted or didn't receive eye contact etc. But it was to everyone, ugly or good looking. Link to post Share on other sites
cutegirl Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 People like being liked by like able people. You said a female waitress or cashier is that last person you would feel threatened by that contributes to you liking that person or seeking their approval. That is all part of it. That's not true, I don't "like" or "seek approval" from waitresses or cashiers because they are non-threatening. The fact that they are non-threatening makes me not care enough or give a damn, I'd rather have approval from someone whose opinion would be more meaningful. That does NOT mean that a cashier can't piss me off, if they look at me the wrong way or if they "Assume things about me that are none of their business such as my age" etc then that would piss me off. Perhaps A BIT of their opinion would affect me but not so much as someone who is more my peer or someone I would want to impress. Why do I hate good looking people ? I can't even remember I think I am all out of steam. Come to think of it some of my best friends are good looking people, some of my best female friends are smoking hot. I guess what I really hate is narrow minded idiots, spoiled un carring people, and the plain vindictive. Good looking people just seem to have had it easy and therefore less scope for empathy towards the less fortunate. That really irks me about successful people, when they don't care about those worse off. Good looking people do not HAVE To have empathy to less attractive people and successful people are not FORCED to care about those who are worse off. If they do then that's great but it shouldn't be expected. Nobody owes anybody everything. It's all about survival of the fittest, either sink or swim. Not everybody is created equal, some people are just better looking, smarter, more successful, some people are just naturally more capable than others. It's unfair but that's the way it is and nobody has to feel sorry for people just because they are ugly or less fortunate. Caring is a choice. Why would an unattractive person expect sympathy from a good looking person just because they are unattractive? Hello, good looking people don't owe you anything. It's not their fault they are good looking and you aren't. Nobody owes anybody anything. If you are ugly, with a little money you can fix anything. Learn how to do your makeup like a pro, get your hair cut/dyed every 4-6 weeks, tan, get veneers, botox, plastic surgery, personal trainer, hair extensions, fake lashes. If your a guy its harder, you can work out I guess. Women have it easier because they change their face with makeup/contouring, slim their nose or chisel their cheekbones with just makeup. Ugly people with some money can transform themselves to someone who looks "above average" or at least "ok". All depends on how dedicated you are. Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderlandless Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I am not as selfish as you. AHAHAHAHAHA\!!! :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
Virgo1982 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 If people are going to be so very superficial, they're only hurting themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
wierdmunky Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Good looking people do not HAVE To have empathy to less attractive people and successful people are not FORCED to care about those who are worse off. If they do then that's great but it shouldn't be expected. Nobody owes anybody everything. It's all about survival of the fittest, either sink or swim. Your right its not expected, but it shows a lot about who you are inside. Not everybody is created equal, some people are just better looking, smarter, more successful, some people are just naturally more capable than others. It's unfair but that's the way it is and nobody has to feel sorry for people just because they are ugly or less fortunate. what... Well if that is the only way you can see value to a person is looks, smarts, and or capability then yes, but every one IS born equally actually. Isn't that in the Declaration of Independence? Which makes no one better than anyone else. If people WANT to do more for people or themselves than go ahead, you can be looked up to, inspiration or whatever but it does not make you a better individual by right. And capability has nothing to do with tipping the scale on equality either. Caring is a choice. Why would an unattractive person expect sympathy from a good looking person just because they are unattractive? Hello, good looking people don't owe you anything. It's not their fault they are good looking and you aren't. Nobody owes anybody anything. If you are ugly, with a little money you can fix anything. Learn how to do your makeup like a pro, get your hair cut/dyed every 4-6 weeks, tan, get veneers, botox, plastic surgery, personal trainer, hair extensions, fake lashes. If your a guy its harder, you can work out I guess. Women have it easier because they change their face with makeup/contouring, slim their nose or chisel their cheekbones with just makeup. Ugly people with some money can transform themselves to someone who looks "above average" or at least "ok". All depends on how dedicated you are. Doing more for yourself is a good thing, but looking down on others who haven't reached that point in their life is just discouraging. It's that kind of thinking that makes people stay in that downhearted mood of lacking motivation. I'd say some people are born with disadvantages for life and some aren't, that doesn't mean they are entitled crap treatment, because by ratio those who are "better" have worked hard, and deserve everything they worked for, but everyone is wired differently yes so why kick weak people when they're down? It doesn't help anybody (except for maybe your ego) and it doesn't make society a better place. Link to post Share on other sites
Virgo1982 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 There's a difference between thinking someone should have sympathy and someone treating another human being like they're worthless because they're unattractive. I don't think unattractive people want sympathy. They want to be attractive. No can do, buddy. No can do... Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't think unattractive people want sympathy. They want to be attractive. No can do, buddy. No can do... I don't think that is all true.. I think unattractive people want to be accepted and or needed first and foremost. Saying that they want to be attractive just means they place more value on looks ( shallow ) rather than more value on being happy and I don't think most unattractive people do that. Link to post Share on other sites
Virgo1982 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't think that is all true.. I think unattractive people want to be accepted and or needed first and foremost. Saying that they want to be attractive just means they place more value on looks ( shallow ) rather than more value on being happy and I don't think most unattractive people do that. I don't think that's shallow. Being shallow is thinking looks are everything. Wishing you were attractive or more attractive is not shallow. Obsessing over being attractive or more attractive is shallow. Link to post Share on other sites
cutegirl Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 There's a difference between thinking someone should have sympathy and someone treating another human being like they're worthless because they're unattractive. I don't think unattractive people want sympathy. They want to be attractive. No can do, buddy. No can do... I agree with this. Why should someone expect sympathy because they are ugly? Good looking people don't expect people to feel sorry for them just because they are good looking. I am more likely to feel sorry for someone because they are very sick or because they were a victim of crime/violence or if someone they knew passed away. That I can feel sympathy for. Why should I feel sympathy for someone just because their features are not perfectly symmetrical and their body is not perfectly chiseled? That's not my problem if someone else is ugly. Link to post Share on other sites
cutegirl Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 We do not share the same ideology. I am not as selfish as you. I believe that we should look after the weak. Someone is weak just because they are unattractive? Are you kidding me? Only a small percentage of the world is truly beautiful. The majority are average and a lot are overweight. So you are saying that the majority of people should receive sympathy just because they are not as attractive?? Link to post Share on other sites
CommitmentPhobe Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Everyone thinks good looking people have it a lot easier in this world...I assure you that is not the case. The better-looking people of my friends are the ones who are in their 30's and single. Face it, guys don't want to marry pretty women, for fear they will cheat and there will be too much temptation. There's a song written about it- "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life..." It's entirely 100% true. Pretty women are on the whole hard work in relationships, they're usually really insecure. I've never met or been out with a really pretty woman that thought she was especially pretty. It's always the ones who are less pretty that claim they are this or that. Anyway... I'm not sure why people are so bitter. Just accept your lot in life and make the most of it. Link to post Share on other sites
cutegirl Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I really think that they just want to be treated as equals. Most people are nice to good looking people that doesn't say much about your character if you are nice to a good looking or an appealing person. Well, actually, that's not true, a lot of good looking people can also be discriminated against or picked on because other people are jealous and intimidated by them. For example, a person who is already good looking can be intimidated by another person who is even better looking than they are, and in turn hate that person and be rude to them or try and steal their significant other etc. It happens all the time. Some good looking people might not be able to make a lot of friends because others are too intimidated. Or they may be underestimated or not taken seriously because of their good looks. So good looking people can have it bad too. Link to post Share on other sites
cutegirl Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I'd say some people are born with disadvantages for life and some aren't, that doesn't mean they are entitled crap treatment, because by ratio those who are "better" have worked hard, and deserve everything they worked for, but everyone is wired differently yes so why kick weak people when they're down? It doesn't help anybody (except for maybe your ego) and it doesn't make society a better place. I don't think being "unattractive" is enough in order to warrant sympathy. If someone is hurt or killed or ill then yes I would feel sorry for them. Do you honestly think I should feel sorry for people just because they weren't blessed with perfect features or a great body? I have enough problems of my own let alone worry about other people just because they aren't good looking. I don't think it's severe or catastrophic enough in order for me to go out of my way to be nice to someone JUST because they are less attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 For example, a person who is already good looking can be intimidated by another person who is even better looking than they are, and in turn hate that person and be rude to them or try and steal their significant other etc. It happens all the time. . wow, so true. then the thief build her confidence on comparison, if she admires another woman, then she trys to steal things that woman cherish, if she fails, her confidence level decrease. a good looking woman may not be a real confident woman. average looking woman do that too, covet. no matter you are average, good looking, chances are same. there are always better looking ones out there. one cannot build confidence on their looks and comparisons Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderlandless Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 lots of money who will spend it all on her. I know this is probably impossible for your clouded, narrow mind to wrap itself around, but there are a lot of good looking women out there who pride themselves on making their own money and supporting themselves. Crazy, I know! Now you're going to ramble about how this simply isn't true, that all good looking women need support because they are good looking and chose to be air-headed bimbos. C'mon, Maxie, prove me wrong. Let me have a tiny bit of hope in you. Link to post Share on other sites
wierdmunky Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I don't think being "unattractive" is enough in order to warrant sympathy. If someone is hurt or killed or ill then yes I would feel sorry for them. Do you honestly think I should feel sorry for people just because they weren't blessed with perfect features or a great body? I have enough problems of my own let alone worry about other people just because they aren't good looking. I don't think it's severe or catastrophic enough in order for me to go out of my way to be nice to someone JUST because they are less attractive. I meant sympathy for people who are less fortunate in general no matter what they look like. People who are less successful might just be "not successful yet" and you can't judge who that is based on good or bad looks. Link to post Share on other sites
wierdmunky Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 a) I have a waitress fetish. Why do I hate good looking people ? I can't even remember I think I am all out of steam. Come to think of it some of my best friends are good looking people, some of my best female friends are smoking hot. I guess what I really hate is narrow minded idiots, spoiled un carring people, and the plain vindictive. Good looking people just seem to have had it easy and therefore less scope for empathy towards the less fortunate. That really irks me about successful people, when they don't care about those worse off. So you don't hate all GPL, just the ones that take advantage of their looks for selfish reasons and could give a crap about other ppl's lives and problems because they think they are above them Link to post Share on other sites
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