Owl Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 And to get back on topic... Lizzie, have you had a chance to read my question to you? I'm really curious about what your response would be to a similar action in your own home. Link to post Share on other sites
Leoni Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm sorry, for some reason I thought you were above 50 and looked like you were still in your 40's so I assumed you still looked great for your age. Anyway I meant that any woman who is older and still looks great takes pride in that. Since some women really let themselves go they look like a lardy muppets. I've seen you praise yourself like Lizzie does since you both look great, so why is one ok and not the other? This post is confusing to me. Have you ever really seen a pic of Touche? I've seen dozens and none of them look like she's in her forties. Perhaps the resizing of the pics, to small enough for the avvy has made a difference. I do know what I've seen and some of those pics have been huge, so no detail is lost. Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 No problem...and good question. I suspected that my wife's relationship with OM had "crossed the line" even before it "officially" had. I had misgivings and attempted to get her to back down on her online time with OM prior to their professions of love for each other. However...I needed that "proof" just as many others here do/did. The situation had to come to a head before it could be addressed. My wife was like everyone else..."we're just friends"..."you have nothing to worry about". And without that "proof"...she continued to carry on the way she was. And...I admit, I gave her more "benefit of the doubt" than I should have. We'd been married a LONG time...that's a lot of built up trust to destroy. Once it DID get down to that level...I took the steps I needed to to get my "proof"...a couple of days later...BAM...d-day. I had a good "handle" on my wife's situation...but I didn't have any tools to force changes and fix the problem until things got to a point where they were undeniable...it was only then that true action could be taken to end the affair and get NC in place. Good question. Thank you for taking the time to answer that. I think much like what happened to you personally, in this case you also still "need the proof" Proof is everything, anything before that is just assumption. :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 This post is confusing to me. Have you ever really seen a pic of Touche? I've seen dozens and none of them look like she's in her forties. Perhaps the resizing of the pics, to small enough for the avvy has made a difference. I do know what I've seen and some of those pics have been huge, so no detail is lost. Oh why does she look older than that? No I have only seen the pics on her profile. Link to post Share on other sites
OWoman Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Great post A4A. The OP is completely at the MM and the wife's mercy as far as when she'll see "her" MM. She has really no say in that regard. I can't imagine being in such a position. I have to call the shots at least some of the time. Man, I'd make a really lousy OW! It was precisely because of my needing to call the shots all of the time that I was so happy as the OW! Only now that I'm mellowing into a little bit of compromise here and there can I consider something a little bit more on someone else's terms besides my own. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have never seen Touche claim she could steal your husband...... :lmao: Although I wish she would steal mine!!! Hey, I don't want him. I'm out of taters. Let me get back to you on that! It's ok if Pollyana...errr wag thinks I look like I'm in my 40's Leoni. She's certainly entitled to her (misguided) opinion. And Polly or whatever your name is, I don't sing my praises at all. Where are you getting that? I think I look good for my age but I don't go around saying that I can get any man on this galaxy. And you know what else? I've never tried to either. Oh and Leoni, this is way more fun than work. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Again, I disagree Polly. I needed the "proof" in order to force change in my situation. That was its only value. I already knew that the situation needed to change. I simply couldn't MAKE the changes until the situation became undeniable. Otherwise, any change attempt would have been worthless, because my wife would have denied the truth. In THIS case...the "proof" is in the hundreds/thousands of posts on this forum. Further "proof" isn't required. Lizzie won't change at this point, even if something happened today to make things "undeniable" to her. There's no ONUS for her to change. No catalyst to make her to want to change. We'll just have to "agree to disagree". :wink: right back Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Oh why does she look older than that? No I have only seen the pics on her profile. Touche looks about 34- 35ish. I know cuz I done did see her in RL. Don't let her fool you... she had a hot tub herself. Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have never seen Touche claim she could steal your husband...... Although I wish she would steal mine!!! I am married to the Lord and I will more than gladly share him with any woman who also wants to join in the love him. Everybody join hands and sing "Hallelujah...." Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Oh why does she look older than that? No I have only seen the pics on her profile. Nice. At least I look younger than that pic of you in your avvy. Link to post Share on other sites
Leoni Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Oh why does she look older than that? No I have only seen the pics on her profile.I don't know why you think that she does beyond having an unreasonable expectation for women. Perhaps you need to post a pic of yourself so we can give you our opinions as well. I will be honest. I promise. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Touche looks about 34- 35ish. I know cuz I done did see her in RL. Don't let her fool you... she had a hot tub herself. Thanks, A! Yeah, it's nice having the hot tub. Especially one no other woman has been in! Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I don't know why you think that she does beyond having an unreasonable expectation for women. Perhaps you need to post a pic of yourself so we can give you our opinions as well. I will be honest. I promise. Isn't that her in her avvy? I think she looks good for a dog. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 So you would rather be the Queen Chump? You strike me as a lot stronger a woman for that Touche!!! C'mon you wouldn't sette for that if you had choose between whta Lizzie gets and what horse face gets. Well no that's not true as to your last comment because in this case Lizzie is happy with her relationship with these men so she is winning just as much if not more than the MM, she also has her young hottie on the side who she has been seeing for a while and she gets all the best from all the men around her. I'm telling you she is on to something here she has the right formula to always get the best for herself. I just don't see how that can be worse that a hot tub full of foreign jizz a "queen" gets for all her hard work and worry. Thanks but no thanks! You nailed it.. Polly.. I get the best from all my men.. that's for sure... Do I envy the Ws.. not for one minute... Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Nice. At least I look younger than that pic of you in your avvyI know you're right I have really let myself go, I was once a very beautiful pup. The great thing about marrying the lord is that he loves me unconditionally, I can eat all the pudding and snausages I want, I can pass gas in the dining room while I sit on the floor and chew on an old bone, chase my tail until I am so dizzy I walk into furniture, I can even sniff my azz and he still rejoyces in my name. Why do you think I joined the convent? Link to post Share on other sites
Leoni Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Isn't that her in her avvy? I think she looks good for a dog. That's what a habit will do for you! Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thanks, Yeah, it's nice having the hot tub. Especially one no other woman has been in You say that as if it is some huge accomplishment to live in a home no other woman has been in. Isn't that the norm? Doesn't that go without say? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 And I'd like to repost my question to Lizzie... How would you feel if someone violated your sanctuary in the same fashion as happened on this thread? If someone else was brought into your home, and was intimate in the place that you consider as your sanctuary? On your belongings, in your tub, etc...? Hahaha.. anytime dude.. anytime.. you want the keys? I don't give a hoot who uses my bathtub.. my bed... who cares? it's only a bathtub .. and a bed or a hot tub.... geezzz people.. Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 You nailed it.. Polly.. Of course I did, I get it! Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 NM...thank you Lizzie. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 I don't have a price.... I don't need to sneak into any mans house to have sex with him. Then again I am the bread winner so likely I would be sneaking "larry" into my house Liz is not in control here the MM is. Liz cannot just call and ask to come over. The wife has more power as well. Methink it's the opposite.. I have all the power .. he has none.. I can tell him 'no' anytime.. I can call him to come over.. Who cares where it is.. really.. I don't think I'll go to his place again.. now that I've seen it.. he could have come to my place.. I just wanted to go see his renovations.. no big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Isn't that her in her avvy? I think she looks good for a dog. I do too as a matter of fact. But what people think of my looks aren't important to me, if it were I would post a better picture of myself begging others to rate me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 You would see that, I think you see a lot of things that are not there. I have read some of your posts and you do tend to see only what you want to see. It's odd you see so much in people's situations that you have no real notion of, since you couldn't see your own situation with your W happening right under your own nose. I take Lizzie's posts at face value and this is why I see someone who is at ease with her lifestyle and choices: She is never angryShe always laughs things off even when people insult her she laughs it off, everything literally rolls off her back and that is a true sign of someone who does not give a crap what anyone thinks about her and who has nothing to proveShe is not trying to convince anyone of anything she shares her experiences and people jump all over that, they can't handle her lifestyle, she has the balls to do what a lot dontShe is happy, and conveys a happy non judegemental tone in all her postsShe is not trying to be heard, like some around here who clearly can't be heard at home so they hope some annonymous poster will hear themHer actions don't contradict her words what you see is what you get with Lizzie so there is no room for surprises or dissapointment, how much more self awareness can a one human being have?She is completely open about her lifestyle and what she wants, again selfawareness to the max, she is not chained to moral demons and fake expectations to be something she is not, like some are who are all talk but leave a lot to be desired in terms of who they are You have no clue what the "queen" is about or how she measures her self worth for all you know the "queen" in this situation is off having her own affair so... OMG... I copied this post.. thanks Polly.. you described me to a T... Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 You mean like the OP? She doesn't post pictures of herself, or did I miss something? Link to post Share on other sites
bish Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 You nailed it.. Polly.. I get the best from all my men.. that's for sure... And you may get a side order of HIV as a bonus in the future. You never know. Link to post Share on other sites
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