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I'm sorry, Pollywag. We're going to have to agree to disagree.

 

I think you see a whole lot of "face value"...and very little of what's caused it.

 

I see a whole lot of denial.

 

I don't see a lot of self-awareness, I see a lot more self-centeredness.

 

I see very little compassion, empathy, or true sympathy.

 

I see hundreds of posts wrapped around her appearance, compliments given by MM. I see so much that she's posted that clearly indicates that her measuring stick is exactly as I've described it.

 

My "assumption" on the measuring stick that the "queen" uses is at least as valid as any other. Your right...she could be out having her own affair while her H was sloshing around with Lizzie. I have no more "clue" than you do...but if I simply subsitute the measuring stick that the majority of "normal people" use.

 

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. I see NOTHING approaching noble or admirable in all of this.

 

Owl you can try to psychoanalyse me all you want.. you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.. you don't know me..

 

I was a very young OW.. that's true.. but then I had other relationships.. I had a daughter while I was with him. (but he wasn't the father).. I went to college while I was pregnant.. got my diploma... took care of my baby.. had no financial/emotional support from my parents...

 

Then at 26, he moved with me.. I was a good mother, good partner, faithful for 18 years (that's probably longer than what your own M :p)... then I left him.. was single for a year (dated 2 guys) .. then met my 2nd ex.. lived with him for 5 years.. helped him with his 2 kids.. was a great MIL... a good partner... always had good jobs.. eventhough you (general) are trying hard to make me look like a sl*t, cheap, whatever.. I am a classy, financial and emotional stable person.. I don't care what you say.. I know I am...

 

I have tons of friends (and good friends)... I am respected at work, within my social circle..

 

My lifestyle is my own little secret... (and it's only been for the last 5-6 years).. so please don't play 'psychologist' with me..

 

You're too funny when you do.. :laugh:

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I'm sorry, Polly, but I respectfully have GOT to disagree with much of what you post. L60 is constantly bragging about her looks and disparaging the looks of many of the MM's W's. She has initiated threads stating she could get any man to cheat with her if she wanted. That does not speak to the theory that she "does not try to convince anyone of anything" or that she "does not give a crap what anyone thinks about her" and that she "has nothing to prove."

 

I agree more with Owl's assessment.

 

I'm not bragging.. it's the truth.. what can I say.. I've got it.. ma'am.. I've got the 'groove".. :laugh:

 

you're right.. I don't give a crap what everyone thinks.. I don't live my life according to others... :p

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Yes, that's what I said. Did you miss that bit? :confused:

 

You didn't say it in your post, but no, I didn't miss anything. I know you aren't capable of being faithful.

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I am shocked that people are so passionate about this.

 

I still don't see the point for the OP or supporters to diss the wife.

 

Way too emotional for my tastes.

 

If I was going to be a no strings attached OW I would care less what the wife looked like - lived like - or did.

 

MM would just be a good time nothing more and his wife certainly would be neutral to me.

 

I sense liz has some feelings for this guy...... and that is a mistake. He just gets more control that way.

 

I said once that she had a horse face.. but posters keep bringing it on and on and on... got it..

 

I don't care about her.. I don't give a shyt about her face really.. he's the one who has to look at it every morning.. :D

 

I have some feelings for his guy... but nothing that even come close to love.. I have my reasons to keep him around.. ;)

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And you may get a side order of HIV as a bonus in the future. You never know.

 

It's one thing to disagree morally with someone's choices. Everyone has the right to their personal set of beliefs - but I do think HIV thing is often used as a bit of a rationalisation for criticising people who have a lot of partners. A person could be monogamous and still get it as a result of believing, erroneously, that they're faithful and that there's no need to use condoms.

 

Someone who's having a lot of sex with different people might be less liable to contract an STD due to taking a very carefully considered approach to their lifestyle and a policy of always using condoms - regardless of who they're sleeping with.

 

Lizzie might have an unconventional lifestyle, but from the posts of hers that I've read, she strikes me as someone who takes care of her health.

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Glad that I'm providing you some good amusement, Lizzie! :) :) :)

 

I'm still not convinced I'm wrong. I think Polly posted exactly what you want to see yourself as...not so much what you truly ARE.

 

I'm posting my "analysis" of you based off all the posts you've put here on LS. It could be wrong...its only as accurate as the data provided. But its interesting to note that even if this isn't "who you are"...its clearly "who you appear to be" to many people.

 

The 'description' I provided seemed accurate enough to many other posters here...

 

That begs the question...why do you think that's the way that you appear to others here on LS? Why do you think that's the analysis that I came up with? Why do you think I "got it wrong"?

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I'm not bragging.. it's the truth.. what can I say.. I've got it.. ma'am.. I've got the 'groove".. :laugh:

 

you're right.. I don't give a crap what everyone thinks.. I don't live my life according to others... :p

 

 

Now I am being serious.

 

Then why post here? Why ask advice?

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I'm sorry, for some reason I thought you were above 50 and looked like you were still in your 40's so I assumed you still looked great for your age. Anyway I meant that any woman who is older and still looks great takes pride in that. Since some women really let themselves go they look like a lardy muppets. I've seen you praise yourself like Lizzie does since you both look great, so why is one ok and not the other?[/quote]

 

hahaha good catch.. they go on and on about 'how good they look' her and other posters.. yadayada.. then they change their pictures, 'oohhh you look amazing 'so and so'.. you too'.. oh wow.. I like your hair... you look much younger.. etc..etc.. :laugh:

 

I also thought she was over 50.. she sure looks like she is.. :o sorry but I'm just being honest.. I am not a sugar coater like some others.. ;)

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I'm sorry, for some reason I thought you were above 50 and looked like you were still in your 40's so I assumed you still looked great for your age. Anyway I meant that any woman who is older and still looks great takes pride in that. Since some women really let themselves go they look like a lardy muppets. I've seen you praise yourself like Lizzie does since you both look great, so why is one ok and not the other?

 

I like that.. I also liked the term OW used... 'lardbuckets' :laugh:

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I'm sorry, for some reason I thought you were above 50 and looked like you were still in your 40's so I assumed you still looked great for your age. Anyway I meant that any woman who is older and still looks great takes pride in that. Since some women really let themselves go they look like a lardy muppets. I've seen you praise yourself like Lizzie does since you both look great, so why is one ok and not the other?[/quote]

 

hahaha good catch.. they go on and on about 'how good they look' her and other posters.. yadayada.. then they change their pictures, 'oohhh you look amazing 'so and so'.. you too'.. oh wow.. I like your hair... you look much younger.. etc..etc.. :laugh:

 

I also thought she was over 50.. she sure looks like she is.. :o sorry but I'm just being honest.. I am not a sugar coater like some others.. ;)

 

Liz your not calling me a sugar coater are you? :lmao::lmao:

 

ya must have missed the redneck pool thread. :lmao:

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I have never seen Touche claim she could steal your husband...... :lmao::lmao: Although I wish she would steal mine!!! :lmao:

 

yes but maybe no one wants to steal him... :lmao:

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then they change their pictures,

 

I'm a sucker. I like when Lizzie changes up her pictures in her profile..

 

Although I wish she would steal mine!!!

 

Ever think about selling him on Ebay?

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And you may get a side order of HIV as a bonus in the future. You never know.

 

I doubt that.. I get checked every year.. so far so good...

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I am a classy, financial and emotional stable person.. I don't care what you say.. I know I am...

 

IRL you may well be classy. On the web, however, you don't seem that way. A classy person does not demean the people who they don't agree with. A classy person does not gloat nor boast nor flaunt.

 

So you may well be classy and financially and emotionally stable IRL, but you do not portray yourself that way on the web.

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You didn't say it in your post

 

Yes I did, right here:

 

I'm not by nature a sexual monogamite. I regard this current phase as atypical and politically my views have not changed. Sexual exclusivity is something accidental happening to me - to us - now, but it is not something I'd want to hold to nor something I aspire to nor something I'd expect or demand. It's just how it is, for now. It may last, or equally it may not. Whichever way, I'll accept it as an accident of hormones. :)

 

but no, I didn't miss anything

 

so quite clearly you did. Better luck next time! :)

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Owl:

 

why do you think that's the way that you appear to others here on LS?

 

You know what.. I don't really give a hoot how I appear on LS.. this is your own perceptions I can't change that.

 

I have my own perceptions, we all do... of all the LShackers here.. from what we read.. I don't know anyone in RL.. it could be very different to meet one in RL.. I bet you wouldn't be able to tell who's who.. I would bet my life on that.

 

Why do you think that's the analysis that I came up with? Because you're playing 'psychologist' ... or Dear Abby.. I don't know.. ;)

 

Why do you think I "got it wrong"? Yes you got it wrong..

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That's all fine and good, but the fact that you have to go on and on about it on this forum leads one to believe you very much need validation of your worth - and you base your worth on how you look and how many men you do.

 

Do what you want. I know I do as well. If people want to talk about me I just figure I'm providing a valuable public service for those without a life. :laugh:

 

I agree.. you're speaking from experience... :laugh:

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In various and sundry poses, certain body parts alone, or the scary looking eyes of one of her MM peering at her over the top of her - um - thang.

 

I'm not sure those are Lizzie's pics. They may also be doctored pictures. You never really know what a person looks online unless you meet them in person.

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[/b]

 

 

Now I am being serious.

 

Then why post here? Why ask advice?

 

Did I ask for advice in this specific thread?

Do all the threads have to be about advices?

Do YOU always post to get advices?

 

:confused:

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Why do you think I "got it wrong"? Yes you got it wrong..

 

You missed the point of the question...not sure if that was deliberate or not.

 

The question is...WHY do you think I got it wrong? What mistake did I make that led to my wrong conclusion?

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Liz where is your photo???

 

My pics are in my profile.. Where's yours?

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Did I ask for advice in this specific thread?

Do all the threads have to be about advices?

Do YOU always post to get advices?

 

:confused:

 

where is that picture? :lmao::lmao:

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I'm not sure those are Lizzie's pics. They may also be doctored pictures. You never really know what a person looks online unless you meet them in person.

 

Then if you think they're not my pics.. I take it as a compliment... :)

 

They are ...

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