morelaugh Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Main Entry: 1twist: to alter the meaning of : distort , pervert <twisted the facts> There you go, morelaugh, straight from the dictionary. Not sure how that implies insanity or intimidation. I guess that means, at least to me, that your interpretation is twisted... Mr. Lucky Oh, my apologies Let me rephrase it: Porn aside, claiming that every other opinion but our own is pervert, not only displays self-righteousness of a close mind, but also an attempt to intimidate ‘heretics’ into adopting our own belief system. In the light of porn discussion, it’s probably just a demonstration of the power of the bandwagon effect. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Oh, my apologies accepted! In the light of porn discussion, it’s probably just a demonstration of the power of the bandwagon effect. Are you claiming to be driving the bandwagon or merely jumping aboard ? Look morelaugh, we can trade barbs all day. My position (which the zealots here have repeatedly tried to mis-characterize) is simply that porn, like any other adult activity, is something that each consenting adult makes their own choice on. I'm not "pro-porn" or "anti-porn", I'm "choose for yourself". Why is that so threatening? Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
morelaugh Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 accepted! Are you claiming to be driving the bandwagon or merely jumping aboard ? Mr. Lucky I will assume you’re just playing uninformed... no, I find it beneath me to either drive it or jump aboard... which is far from neutralising its effect though, I am fully aware of that. I'm not "pro-porn" or "anti-porn", I'm "choose for yourself". Why is that so threatening? Mr. Lucky Nothing is threatening in giving people right to make their own choices and having their own opinions, Mr. Lucky. However, telling people their minds are ‘distort/pervert/twisted’ for having different opinion is very threatening. And I was reacting to that. accepted! (which the zealots here have repeatedly tried to mis-characterize) Mr. Lucky Why can’t you refrain from name calling people who don’t agree with you? Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Nothing is threatening in giving people right to make their own choices and having their own opinions, Mr. Lucky. However, telling people their minds are ‘distort/pervert/twisted’ for having different opinion is very threatening. And I was reacting to that. Really morelaugh, you are "very threatened" by what I post? How so? Mr. Lucky I would think you would be PROUD and excited to hold screenings of your daughter featured in a movie begging to have loads of cum blown in her face And just out of curiousity, this style of posting doesn't strike you as twisted? Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Really morelaugh, you are "very threatened" by what I post? How so? Mr. Lucky And just out of curiousity, this style of posting doesn't strike you as twisted? Why is it "twisted" ? We're all adults here, my question is very on point. If porn use is such a normal, healthy activity that women can be berated and called insecure and prudes because they disapprove of their man watching it,if it's such a great expression of sexuality that women are being encouraged to view it alone or use it with their partners then what's the problem with openly discussing very common acts in porn films ? And make no mistake,the acts I described are quite mainstream porn. Even more to the point,if porn is so healthy,good and normal why is it just peachy to watch somebody else's daughter getting screwed every which way but Sunday but you bristle indigantly at the idea of other men getting to enjoy watching your daughter doing the same? Link to post Share on other sites
morelaugh Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Really morelaugh, you are "very threatened" by what I post? How so? And how exactly did you come to that conclusion??? No, I don’t feel threatened by what you post. However, I find it very rude and arrogant when ANYONE tells other posters their minds are twisted just because they have different value system. And just out of curiousity, this style of posting doesn't strike you as twisted? Out of context –maybe. But after you claimed porn is as normal as you can get and we all should accept that, I understand that people want to know if your opinion would change if your own daughter is in it. How come you never answered that question? Link to post Share on other sites
Author stone22 Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 :laugh: As the OP-- My problems seem so much simpler now that I read what some people are writing! WOW!!!! Come on you guys! Grow the hell up! soserious- you are waaaaayyyy off the deep end on this. I can respect your opinion of disagreeing with porn, but trying to make the comparison of porn to having your daughter shown on the internet with cum all over her face--- really, that is too far. I have a feeling that there is something a LOT DEEPER than just the simple issue of porn affecting you. I think it would lend a little clarity to your posts if you shared it with us, rather than making crazy analogies. How can you possibly expect to sit here and think that other people are going to listen to you preach like this? I'm just curious, do you have a son or daughter? Have you touched or looked at a porno with out melting? Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 ....but trying to make the comparison of porn to having your daughter shown on the internet with cum all over her face--- really, that is too far. While I think serious has some deep issues she needs to work on. Why is this comment going to far? All those women in those films are infact someone's daughter, mother, aunt, even wife. Thats the reality. The fact is men want to seperate women into groups and there they want them to stay. They don't mind disrespecting other women, but as soon as it's the idea of their own daughter being used and disrespected, it's worse? Come on. Are those women no more people then a man's own daughter is? How do you expect other men to give your daughter the respect she deserves when you can't even show respect for other men's daughters? You want other men to respect your daughter? You get angry at the idea of your own daughter being in a porno and taking a load on her face by 3 guys? All the excuses about those women like it, get paid to do ect ect..fly right out the window when it becomes specific to a man's own blood. Try showing other men respect for their daughters and perhaps other men will be able to show respect to your daughter. Although I fear this is soo much of a difficult feat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 But after you claimed porn is as normal as you can get and we all should accept that Again, a complete mis-characterization of my thoughts. What I've said is simply that you, like anyone else, should choose for yourself. Not only do I respect your right to do so - which is substantially different than saying that I claim that you "all should accept" porn - but I also respect your right to find a partner or partners that feels the same way you do. You choose what you do in your bedroom and I'll choose what I do. That doesn't work for you ? How come you never answered that question? Because the concept behind the question - asking in graphic terms a father to place his daughter in a sexual context - is in extremely poor taste. It's unfortunate that this forum doesn't have an ignore function, because soserious1 is the first person I'd use it on... Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Again, a complete mis-characterization of my thoughts. What I've said is simply that you, like anyone else, should choose for yourself. Not only do I respect your right to do so - which is substantially different than saying that I claim that you "all should accept" porn - but I also respect your right to find a partner or partners that feels the same way you do. You choose what you do in your bedroom and I'll choose what I do. That doesn't work for you ? Because the concept behind the question - asking in graphic terms a father to place his daughter in a sexual context - is in extremely poor taste. It's unfortunate that this forum doesn't have an ignore function, because soserious1 is the first person I'd use it on... Mr. Lucky And again you dance and dance around a direct question. If it's normal,healthy and good for you to sit there jerking your gherkin to films of other men's daughters getting deep dicked in every orfice they've got, then why is it not acceptable for other men to be able to jerk off to images of your own adult daughter doing the same. It's ok for you to use other men's daughters as objects for your masterbatory needs but it's not ok for other men to use your daughter as an object in the same way? Sorry but I disagree.. if it's normal,healthy and natural..then it's got to be that way across the board. Btw,imho that includes open discussion of exactly what happens in most mainstream porn films, If what's actually being shown in these films cannot be openly discussed how on earth can anybody advocate that women or anybody else for that matter "join" their husbands in viewing the stuff? Link to post Share on other sites
morelaugh Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Again, a complete mis-characterization of my thoughts. What I've said is simply that you, like anyone else, should choose for yourself. Not only do I respect your right to do so - which is substantially different than saying that I claim that you "all should accept" porn - but I also respect your right to find a partner or partners that feels the same way you do. You choose what you do in your bedroom and I'll choose what I do. That doesn't work for you ? Mr. Lucky That works for me very well. And now you’re twisting my words. I told you exactly what doesn’t work for me and that is calling other posters twisted for having different opinion. Because the concept behind the question - asking in graphic terms a father to place his daughter in a sexual context - is in extremely poor taste. It's unfortunate that this forum doesn't have an ignore function, because soserious1 is the first person I'd use it on... Mr. Lucky Look, as a mother, if my daughter was in porn I would feel the same as if my son was in drug dealing - sad and ashamed, and would try to do whatever I can to help them get out - and I believe every decent person would feel the same. I might be wrong - are there any people here who would be proud? What if your daughter decides by her free will to appear in porn? Would you prefer not to know? If she does tell you, how would you feel? Short from asking you to actually WATCH the movies, I don’t see anything wrong in this hypothetical question - this can be a very real situation for any father. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Look, as a mother, if my daughter was in porn I would feel the same as if my son was in drug dealing - sad and ashamed, and would try to do whatever I can to help them get out - and I believe every decent person would feel the same. I might be wrong - are there any people here who would be proud? Morelaugh, have you ever partaken of any recreational drugs? Perhaps, in younger and wilder days, taken a hit off a joint? Popped a pill? Sniffed a line? Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
morelaugh Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Morelaugh, have you ever partaken of any recreational drugs? Perhaps, in younger and wilder days, taken a hit off a joint? Popped a pill? Sniffed a line? Mr. Lucky Once or twice out of curiosity. Never needed drugs to be wild. My ‘drug’ of choice is a nice glass of red (or two ). How about you? And this analogy is supposed to say that you don’t respect porn starts even though you occasionally enjoy porn? Why don’t you just spell it out for me, rather than let me guess? Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Once or twice out of curiosity. Never needed drugs to be wild. My ‘drug’ of choice is a nice glass of red (or two ). How about you? I also enjoy a nice glass of Cabernet. And now we have the additional smugness of knowing that research says our vino is heart-healthy Anyway, that joint you toked was sold by someone. And that dealer was someone's son. And he probably sold other drugs, like heroin for instance. And he has no way of knowing where his drugs ended up so they could have been used by elementary school students. So: You taking a puff of a marijuane cigarette is the same as wanting your son to sell heroin to third graders, right ??? Perhaps you exceeded the speed limit briefly on your way home from work today. And we all know that speed can be a cause of accidents, some of which are fatal. And those people that die in accidents are someone's children. So: You exceeding the speed limit means that you want your son to die a horribly painful death in a high-speed collision, right ??? It's a ridiculous line of reasoning that makes no sense and has no real-world application... Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Mr. Lucky, you aren't making much sense and you are avoiding answering the direct questions asked to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Mr. Lucky, you aren't making much sense and you are avoiding answering the direct questions asked to you. You'll be waiting a long time for the answer Jersey, because it's not coming . You premise doesn't make any more sense than the idea that morelaugh's toke implies that she wants her son to sell smack to small children. And to continue my drug analogy, why don't you just say no? You have complete control over the things in your life, so by simply excluding porn you've solved all related problems. This is, unless you also want to choose for the rest of us too ??? Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
Author stone22 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Quote soserious: If "ocasionally" watching porn is indeed "healthy normal and good" then occasionally choosing to star in a porn film is healthy,normal and good as well If liking to watch young women get cum blasted all over their faces or 9 inch dicks rammed up their asses is wonderful, then it's also wonderful,normal and perfectly acceptable for your sister or your daughter to be one of those young women. You admit to occasionally enjoying watching other men's daughters get cock shoved in every orifice they've got, why would it be a problem for your daughter to decide to provide the same visual pleasure for scores of men just like yourself? After all porn viewing is totally harmless, totally normal. I'd think you'd be more than a little proud of a daughter or sister who made such a film. I'm sorry but I hold with the idea that if viewing such explicit content is merely part of the healthy expression of sexuality,than starring in the production of such material is as well I have a feeling that you saw that you were loosing your battle, so you reverted to the most absurd argument possible to get a rise out of those that disagree with you. Maybe you feel some sort of vindication, or get some weird sense of revenge against someone or the male population in general. Your twisted logic seems more like a middle finger than anything else. Quite honestly soserious- you scare the living crap out of me. You seem to be one of those people that you just never want to meet- mean, spiteful, hurt, rejected, and lonely. Your username is very telling. While I do have my problems (as I am the OP), I am starting to feel sorry for you. However-- I am man enough to answer your question head on and to ride your slippery slope Would I watch/view porn if I knew that my daughter was a porn star? That would first depend on what kind of porn star. If we are talking Jenna Jameson- no. I would not. I would flat out be embarrassed if my daughter was Jenna Jameson and would do all I can to convince her to put her damn clothes on and get off TV. That is trash. Despite what you may think- Jenna Jameson does not appeal to all. Neither does Pamela Anderson, or the Girls Next Door (ok- interest peaked a little, but still pathetic If we were talking about YOUR most hilarious, and my personal favorite all time quote, "deep dick" porn or "cum faced" porn- no! I would not watch it if I knew that my daughter did the same thing. Geesh- who wants to see some one screw someone else in the bung hole? Especially with a 9 inch dick!! Do people even have 9 inch dicks? I mean really, can someone’s stinky wiener actually be a full 6 inches larger than mine????? Come on soserious-- Live a little!! Find the good stuff!! If we were talking about tasteful porn, (no, that is NOT an oxymoron) such as soft core porn, it would be very hard to say. Would I be proud of her- eh... I would ere on the side of no. Would I still watch it- how the hell can any one say for sure? How could you really say for sure if it were your son? I'll be honest- I probably would. I agree with Mr. Luck that it can be healthy as long as both partners agree and it is out in the open. (See- I do listen to all you posters!!!) Soft core porn consists of women that do have self esteem. It doesn't consist of raunchyness. It doesn't consist of the most lewed and sexual ideas ever thought of. Believe it or not- it actually does put women on a pedistal. It is not objectifying in the way that most love to portray it, or the way that many feminists love to stereotype men, but somehow think they aren't being stereotypicaly because they are women. Women have beautiful bodies. Men want to see them. Men are more visually stimulated sexually than women are. It is basic, it is biological. Get over it. And why would I, or anyone (other than those from Tenessee) ever watch a porno that my/their own daughter is in? Come on now... can't you find a better argument? Would I ever watch the porn that I describe as tasteful with my wife? IN A HEART BEAT!!!!! Would I watch it with out her- well that is in the midst of being negotiated. I will argue to the end of my life that it enhances our sex life. Was it fair how I handled my porn use in the past with her- not at all. I do wish that it had come up earlier between us. I wish that I could have helped her understand me more when we were still dating so it would not have been such a blow to her later on. Bottom line- it needs to be a couple's decision after both have carefully examined the other side of the argument. NOW-- since someone has finally answered your question, the ball s now in your court: Is your problem with porn an issue of disgust and immorality, or is it really a reflection of your insecurities, both as a person and as a woman, that you have not learned to deal with through out your life? In a previous post it was implied that porn is a result of insecurity. By your same slippery slope logic, wouldn't that mean that those who are not in porn or opposed to it are perfectly secure in themselves as a person and sexually? I mean really- what is the issue? Is it porn? Or is the reaction to porn actually the symptom of a much deeper problem that may actually be affecting other acpects of one's life? (Especially yours, as it seems) I know for a fact that my wife's issue with my porn is not so much with the porn as it is with the fact that I hid it. Mind you she does have an issue with the porn- but now that it is finally out in the open we are both realizing the true problems that were lying beneath, i.e my untruthfulness and her insecurities. (Vicious cycle, as I have found. Don't recommend it.) I am seeing her side, and she is seeing my side (the side that says porn is cool) Anyway- lighten up soserious. Maybe change your pen name to "notsoserious". Might do you some good. BTW-- are you married? Link to post Share on other sites
Author stone22 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Quoting Jersie Shortie The fact is men want to seperate women into groups and there they want them to stay. Nope. Not true. You are looking into this way too much and drawing conclusions that aren't always there. I have met males that are that way- but that is not how that males that I know treat women. Believe it or not, there are men that do treat women well and have a general level of respect. They don't mind disrespecting other women, but as soon as it's the idea of their own daughter being used and disrespected, it's worse? Come on. Are those women no more people then a man's own daughter is? Again- you are just going too far. Get off this whole daughter thing. It's just dumb. I am curious- For my job I meet all different walks of life. In my area of the country we seem to have a good mix of people in one part of the state and seem to have a little bit of class and treat women as humans. But then there are other parts of the state where they do believe that women have their place, and that it is the man's job to put them there. I can totally see the mentality that you unfairly categorize all men with as fitting in perfectly there. Do you mind saying what part of the country you are in and what your neck of the woods is like? It just occurred to me that it just might be that you just not have met a man that can actually treat a women well, respect her for her intellect and her personality, believe that she has a beautiful body and still look at porn. Is that why you attitude with men is so sour? What about "not-so-serious". I wonder where she is from. Link to post Share on other sites
c-riouz Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 If we were talking about tasteful porn, (no, that is NOT an oxymoron) such as soft core porn, it would be very hard to say. Would I be proud of her- eh... I would ere on the side of no. Would I still watch it- how the hell can any one say for sure? How could you really say for sure if it were your son? I'll be honest- I probably would. You would watch porn with your own daughter in it? Probably even beat off to it... That's just sick. :sick: I hope you'll never have children. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 You'll be waiting a long time for the answer Jersey, because it's not coming. You premise doesn't make any more sense than the idea that morelaugh's toke implies that she wants her son to sell smack to small children. I already know you don't feel like you can handle answering my thought provoking gent questions Mr. Lucky. And it goes noted everytime you side step it. And everytime you do, I chalk up to avoidence. My premise makes perfect sense. Most men would never want someone they truly loved or cared for in a porno, because most men recongnize the disrespect that comes with porn and how it uses/displays/shows women. Yet most men are perfectly okay with supporting an industry for other women that doesn't treat women with that much respect or even kindness. Porn does no favors protraying men the way they do either. I just wonder how men honestly expect women to know or understand that they truly do value them when a billion dollar industry makes profit out of treating women like replacable sex toys. (don't worry, I don't expect you to directly address this question and instead talk around it and instead bring up some other small detail that has nothing to do with the subject or evidence brought up in this post). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a feeling that you saw that you were loosing your battle, so you reverted to the most absurd argument possible to get a rise out of those that disagree with you. If it was that absurd, why would it get a rise out of anyone? Maybe you feel some sort of vindication, or get some weird sense of revenge against someone or the male population in general. Perhaps it's *some* men that get some twisted sense of revenge and power by perpueating, sticking up for, defending a medium that doesn't treat women with much respect. If we are talking Jenna Jameson- no. I would not. From my understanding, Jenna Jameson was able to be so successful in porn because she drew lines and never went as far as most porn actresses have to go to make money and stay in the business. From my understanding she never did group facial shots, or double penertrations or even anal. Did you know that the average porn star lasts from 6 months-year. And in that time span she has to do increasingly more graphic sex just to stay in the business. Do you know why they don't last longer then a year in most cases? I think if you beleive being a porn star comes with no price or is *easy*, you are only looking at it from the fantasy aspect. I don't see how men can expect and want other men to treat their daughters with respect when they can't treat other men's daughters with respect. THe truth is, every woman out there is someone's daughter, yours included in that group. I agree with Mr. Luck that it can be healthy as long as both partners agree and it is out in the open. (See- I do listen to all you posters!!!) I think if porn was as healthy as everyone wants tobelieve, wouldn't we have a more healthy nation by now with more heathly relationships that don't end in divorce and more healthy couples? The truth is we don't. Infact, things seem worse today then they did 50 years ago. Relationships between men and women seem more strained then healthy. Soft core porn consists of women that do have self esteem. It doesn't consist of raunchyness. It doesn't consist of the most lewed and sexual ideas ever thought of. Just because it's softcore doens't mean the woman has or hasn't any self esteem. A woman is looking for some external validation if she does something even like softcore porn. Believe it or not- it actually does put women on a pedistal. In a way, you are right. It puts women on a pedistal of beauty where we must all be 24 forever with big fake boobs and perfect bodies. And when we grow older we can watch our husbands still indulge in these images and we are suppose to feel great and proud of ourselves and of him. IT's unrealistic. It is not objectifying in the way that most love to portray it..... Do these movies show anything morea bout these women then their boobs and butt? YOu can't seriously believe that there is no objectification there. Women have beautiful bodies. Men want to see them. Men are more visually stimulated sexually than women are. It is basic, it is biological. Get over it. Women do have beautiful bodies. And it's great that men like to see women with beautiful bodies. And yes, it's biological. But women have hearts too. And women in relationships who have men that put in no effort to control themselves hurts. THAT is biological too. We could just as easily say "get over it" to you and other men about porn. Men look at porn since they hit puberty. Isn't it time eto "get over it". Not to mention the unrealistic standards porn sets. Women want to feel beautiful. But I guess men just want us to live in the shadow of a fantasy and be happy with those meager scraps. Would I ever watch the porn that I describe as tasteful with my wife? IN A HEART BEAT!!!!! Of course you would. No one doubts that. YOu have the best of both worlds. Other women to get sexually stimumlated over and your wife to service you after getting hot over other women. And what does your wife get out of it? A man that just got tunred on by 25 year olds in porn so that he could finish off with her. Yay for women. Men really love us huh. (yeah right!) NOW-- since someone has finally answered your question, the ball s now in your court: Is your problem with porn an issue of disgust and immorality, or is it really a reflection of your insecurities, both as a person and as a woman, that you have not learned to deal with through out your life? Is porn a reflection of a man's insecurities that both as a man and a person he has not learned to deal with in real life? I am seeing her side, and she is seeing my side (the side that says porn is cool) That's the over whelming message I seem to get from most men. Porn is cool. Real women should just shut up. THey aren't allowed to have any feelings. They aren't allowed to feel or want to be beautiful their SO. they aren't allowed to be important. For most men, porn does and always will take more priority in their lives then any real woman could. After all, porn is what men really want and real women are what most men settle for. Get the message loud and clear. Believe it or not, there are men that do treat women well and have a general level of respect. And behind closed doors these men that treat their with with "respect", that might have a beautiful family of their own are sitting infront of their computers masturbating to cheerleaders 500. Yeah, really see the respect men have for women. *note the sarcams*. Again- you are just going too far. Get off this whole daughter thing. It's just dumb. Actually, it isn't. If something is not good enough for your daughter it shouldn't be good enough for other women. Although that is not the way most men think. Most men think their daughters or wives deserve mroe respect but other men's daughtesr or wives don't. Do you mind saying what part of the country you are in and what your neck of the woods is like? Figure it out from my profile name. I am not the way I am because men are all such stellar, nice,caring creatures that treat women with respect. I think the things I think because experience has taught me that you need to self protect yourself against men because they don't really care to treat women right. Yesterday 11:57 PM Link to post Share on other sites
morelaugh Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 It's a ridiculous line of reasoning that makes no sense and has no real-world application... The reasoning you’re demonstrating in your examples IS ridiculous, I completely agree. Except, it has nothing to do with what I said. That joint came from a friend’s balcony, I don’t speed and most importantly I NEVER said anything about WANTING your children to become drug dealers. No one would want that. I asked what would happen IF they did. Anyway, I accept that this is the best answer you can give and it’s almost clear what you are trying to say. Can we conclude with: DO WHAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE’S CHOICES. I also enjoy a nice glass of Cabernet. And now we have the additional smugness of knowing that research says our vino is heart-healthy Too bad we can’t continue this conversation over a glass of Cabernet - in vino veritas. To the OP: I’m really glad you’re sorting things out with your wife. Please be careful and don’t relax too soon. Things like that have a nasty habit to come back and bite you when you least expect. I’d suggest (if I may): respect your wife, don’t give promises you can’t keep and occasionally ask yourself would you be happy if you were married to yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Author stone22 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 The reasoning you’re demonstrating in your examples IS ridiculous, I completely agree. Except, it has nothing to do with what I said. That joint came from a friend’s balcony, I don’t speed and most importantly I NEVER said anything about WANTING your children to become drug dealers. No one would want that. I asked what would happen IF they did. Anyway, I accept that this is the best answer you can give and it’s almost clear what you are trying to say. Can we conclude with: DO WHAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE’S CHOICES. Too bad we can’t continue this conversation over a glass of Cabernet - in vino veritas. To the OP: I’m really glad you’re sorting things out with your wife. Please be careful and don’t relax too soon. Things like that have a nasty habit to come back and bite you when you least expect. I’d suggest (if I may): respect your wife, don’t give promises you can’t keep and occasionally ask yourself would you be happy if you were married to yourself. Everyone talks about respect and rants and raves about men disrespecting women. This post was fair. It came from someone that seems to be balanced. Can we conclude with: DO WHAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE’S CHOICES. Wow-- Link to post Share on other sites
Author stone22 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 You would watch porn with your own daughter in it? Probably even beat off to it... That's just sick. :sick: I hope you'll never have children. Come on- show some intelligence. Read the whole post and the ones before it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 From my understanding, Jenna Jameson was able to be so successful in porn because she drew lines and never went as far as most porn actresses have to go to make money and stay in the business. From my understanding she never did group facial shots, or double penertrations or even anal. It strikes me as more than ironic that I (who has been called "addicted" to porn based on my occasional usage) couldn't pick Jenna Jameson out of a police line-up but you know her history and sexual in-film preferences and limits. You've posted many times your conclusions about porn films, actresses, actors, plot lines and techniques, with specific focus on the sex scenes. How does someone who is so anti-porn become so knowledgable about its content ??? Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Lucky Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Can we conclude with: DO WHAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE’S CHOICES. Yes we can, morelaugh . Have a good weekend... Mr. Lucky Link to post Share on other sites
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