Do you flow or force?

[Jmina]

I don't exactly know where to post this, because i guess it can come under a few subjects... but mainly the topic is about fate and the love between two beings - not necessarily romantic.

 

I also don't know how else to explain this other than just pasting what i have written in my journal entry.

 

So here it is, and if you have any particular view on it please post back, maybe you have pushed your fate, or waited to see how it happens - i don't know what to do.

 

 

" I am grateful for the care of the universe that I received going through the break up. I am grateful now for being forced into dealing with a much longer time apart than i had first hoped for. I am grateful for not having a chance to contact her it has made me stronger and appreciate the things I have gained and only would have gained being apart.

 

I really feel that we will come face to face again one day, maybe even soon and I think it will be okay. I think we will be glad, and I think we will be able to understand it better. I don’t want a relationship and i know my ex doesnt either, and i think that is why it will be okay.

 

I am sure I would feel that I would be going backwards or settling for 2nd best if we tried it again. It would be 2nd best because I wouldn’t trust my ex to stay forever. That isn’t good enough for either of us.

 

I wish for my ex to take the correct path whatever that may be and for me to be able to accept what ever happens.

 

Is it right to manipulate the situation by say, turning up at the same place my ex is at? Or writing things into my face book that i think my ex might read? if she views it in the first place.

 

Is this forcing events that might never happen if i let it be?If I turned up somewhere it might be a year two early to what the universe had planned and so I come across another rollercoaster and lessons (hard) but well learned. Maybe it would turn out just how I wanted?

 

Maybe all i really want is to let my ex know how much i have been hurting - and that isn't a good enough reason..

 

What if taking the initiative in my fate was a risk that some talk about taking, because you never know if you don't try? How do you know what is right, and is the risk worth taking?

 

After writing this entry, and reading it and thinking about it, i know i'm not in a place to even truley consider turning up at the same place as my ex mainly because it is coming from my deeper emotions of hurt, and even pining.

 

I realise that maybe when i feel that i have felt every emotion there is to feel, and gone through all my healing that i dont even feel the need to force fate anymore. & and if it's going to happen it will... but when people decide to take their own action and it turns out a positive thing, would it still have happened anyway??

 

Thanks for reading my confused thoughts i appreciate your help!!

 

Jmina

[Ronni_W]

Jmina,

Are you asking, "How does one know when to take action and when not to take action?" (Nevermind what "right action" would look like, right?)

 

I know the feeling. For myself, I rely on some 'inner thing' that compels me. I'm still learning to listen to it better, though...my issues are not enough trust and too many doubts.

 

I do think ultimate outcomes will happen, anyway. But I also think we have a lot of input into when it happens and how much crap we go through before it happens. Like, some of the stuff I'm working on in this life, if I don't take whatever action I deem/feel appropriate, I may have to wait until another lifetime to accomplish or realize its fruition. But I will, ultimately, succeed at it.

 

So, I guess mostly I struggle with WHAT action would serve my highest good versus should I take any action at all. (I think, yes, we ought to strive to take some action...which may just be visualizing about it...how does one know??? )

 

But that strong feeling that you have, that you'll come face-to-face again (in this lifetime, I'm assuming), probably is accurate and probably is not totally reliant on your own action...or inaction, for that matter.

 

I think if you just go about living your life as best you can, it'll happen. Like, if you just leave open the possibility and don't give attention to figuring out or guessing the where or when or how of it. Then likely the LAST situation you would have dreamed up, is the one that'll happen. (That's how it turned out for me, in any event.) I had kinda left it at, "I guess it'll be next lifetime...hope I recognize him and/or he recognizes me." But even that - I realized it really didn't/doesn't matter if we will recognize each other or not.

 

So...as you can see, I'm as confused as you . Maybe we are just over-analyzing and over-complicating things for ourselves? -- but how would we know???

[Jmina]

"So...as you can see, I'm as confused as you . Maybe we are just over-analyzing and over-complicating things for ourselves? -- but how would we know??? "

 

lol =)

 

yeah i guess what i am asking is how do when know when we are making the right action if it feels like we are manipulating the world.

 

But i also believe that things are neither right or wrong - (to a degree of course) they just are and so i will learn one way or another the truth... what ever that may be.

 

I think when we know, we just know - all doubts aside. I've found It can be hard to determin what the intuition is, if the doubt is in fact your intuition telling you not to, and your head is letting you get a head of yourself, or if its the other way around.

 

Wow what a confusing thought for readers who are in the same spot as me.

 

either way i have decided NOT to force the situation...mainly because i fear it will bring more hurt and something i would never dream of - say ruining the chances of a reconciliation. What if she knew i was planning it? of course there is no way, but then i would have to live with the thought that i had forced the meet and so how would i know that it was completely her who felt like our paths should cross again.

 

im just going to flow. focus on me. its gonna happen one day, i just have to be patient with the universe.

 

???

 

Jmina

[Ronni_W]

how do when know when we are making the right action if it feels like we are manipulating the world.

For myself, if it feels like I'm manipulating the world (or even just trying to)...then I probably am, so I just don't follow up on ideas/actions that come when I'm feeling like that. For me, the feeling that I'm trying to manipulate is my clear 'sign' that what I'm considering is "wrong action".

 

But, if it's a matter of deliberately choosing to go to a particular venue BECAUSE I know he'll be there AND I want to see him and find out what will happen...to me, that's not the same thing. That's me taking CONSCIOUS action, willingly, knowingly and with intent.

Then all I gotta do is say, "Yeah, I'm here because I hoped to run into you. No other reason that I'm here...I am here for you." To me, that's not manipulating cos the other person knows my motives exactly.

 

Writing stuff on Facebook (or doing whatever) with the hope of soliciting a response...well, my personal is that I should just contact him if I'm desiring contact.

 

So maybe...maybe I wait for Intuition to help me determine WHEN to go to that particular venue, or make that contact? Maybe it's a timing thing???