nleeh Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 My vision of hell isn't a vision at all, it is actual living a life time on this earth doing the same things over and over the same way and getting the same bad results. And every time we learn to stop that cycle in a grand way or in the smallest corner of our life, we get to experience heaven. Oh and wanted to add that your dream was awesome and it was remarkable how you remembered so many details. At the risk of getting plowed for going off topic, I won't add my interpretation of what your dream seems to mean...but I wanted to. Dang. Wink. Link to post Share on other sites
JGT Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I don't believe in hell as it goes against the notion of an all loving god, but then again I don't really believe in that either. However, my hell would be a club or a party where I am drunk and exhausted and I want to leave but I can't and having to live that for eternity. Pleasure becomes the pain. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 There is only this moment. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 LB, that was beautifully recounted! My idea of hell is pretty specific. I am encased in something solid. I only have an inch to move. I can hear those I love outside, but they don't know I'm there. I can breathe. All I see is darkness. This pretty much goes on for eternity. My other version is having a loved one in this situation. I have a big fear of being buried alive. Gawd, this makes me feel weird. Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 First I must say you are an excellent writer! On hell; we have the word of God…. I believe God has given us the testimonies of others that have been there and lived to talk about it. Bill Wiese is such a man that was in hell. He speaks of the same events happening over and over. He tells of a woman that ran in hell from the spirit of fear; screaming and running, a waved of fire rolling behind her… it engulfs her, she is consumed by the flame and then it starts all over… an eternal scenario. He also explains how we can be tormented repeatedly; as his own lesh was ripped open or an arm ripped off … the wound would close or the arm suddenly reappear- attached to the body and that this is how demons could torment the body eternally… I recommend you Google; Bill Wiese 23 min in hell [original version] Thank you for sharing… Link to post Share on other sites
Author LucreziaBorgia Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 I work in a large bookstore. I'm pretty familiar with his stuff. He is making a killing off of it. A similar one is Baxter's Divine Revelation of Hell. That one sells quite a bit too. Pretty much anything having to do with hell or the apocalypse is a hot seller right now. Link to post Share on other sites
JGT Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Books dealing with hell are a hot seller. The irony. lol. I used to work for Borders and B&N so this interests me, why are these books selling specifically? Link to post Share on other sites
Author LucreziaBorgia Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 Books dealing with hell are a hot seller. The irony. lol. I used to work for Borders and B&N so this interests me, why are these books selling specifically? I live in the Bible belt. Lots of fiery evangelist folk here. They like the 'fire, brimstone, suffering, and hell' stuff: Left Behind series, anything on prophecy, anything on hell, etc. I see it as religious "porn", more or less. Pretty much anything with a religious turn (Christian only in these parts, mind you) sells really, really well here. It is our top selling section. Religious fiction is booming across the board: books for children, teen fiction, etc. I see it as a response to the boom in 'occult' themed stuff that is popping up everywhere else across the genres: I've seen vampire romance, vampire mystery, vampire fiction, vampire teen fiction, etc. Add in every other aspect: werewolves, witches, demons, undead, etc. and you have the other bestselling formula. Its like the New Age (or 'occult theme') publishers and the Christian publishers are in a death match for the souls (ie: the money) of the reading public. Me personally, I will give anything a fair shot. I find the prophecy stuff and the hell stuff fascinating. I always was a sucker for the books of Daniel, Revelations, Ezekiel, etc. I read these things right along with my 'occult type' stuff. I see all of it as human interpretations of the same notion of 'divine', none more or less valid than any other. The notion of belief and why people believe the way they do has always interested me. I've studied belief systems from a very early age, when I first started reading my father's Man, Myth and Magic (the encyclopdia version) books as a pre teen. I still have that set of books - right along with bookcases and bookcases of other books covering a variety of belief systems. The closest I can come to myself would be to say I fancy myself part of the 'old religion' (not to be confused with Wicca - I'm talking about stuff that predates that following) though I cull spiritual guidance from a variety of sources. I'm a holistic person when it comes to spirituality, I guess. Not so much my customers though. The Christian ones, anyway. I don't see the same buying fervor from the Jewish, Islamic, Buddhist, or New Agers (I guess mainly you could group them all together and they wouldn't be a fraction of the Christian community here). Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 We are at the cross roads: the particular increased sells of the books you titled is further supportive proof; we are in the generation of the last days. Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Matt 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 2Tim.3:1,13 In the last days...evil men shall wax worse & worse We are witnesses to prophecy fulfilled; many are hungry and searching for more; an increased spiritual desire to be fulfilled; Some look to evil, some look to God. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Argument for the second coming of Jesus according to book sales? Man, the Christian doomsday industry has hit rock bottom now. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Dear have a slice of wisdom pie. There are many last day signs to watch for, of course we know books sale is not on that list of signs to watch for. Yet if you note what it is people are searching for via the book titles.. its clear that it does tie in with last day prophecies. :bunny:mmmm thats so good. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Every century, and every millennium has had 'Last day' signs. Look at Pompeii, look at Hiroshima.... I'll believe it's the last day when I fail to wake up. I'll have my last day before this planet does. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'll believe it's the last day when I fail to wake up. I'll have my last day before this planet does. Same. It's reassuring to know that all these people who so vividly describe the horrors of Hell and can't wait for that day to arrive are completely and utterly dead-wrong. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Every century, and every millennium has had 'Last day' signs. Look at Pompeii, look at Hiroshima.... I'll believe it's the last day when I fail to wake up. I'll have my last day before this planet does. Seriously dude {as Napoleon Dynomite} those are words of one that does not know the signs… or look for them. Can you pass the popcorn? Link to post Share on other sites
Love Hurts Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Same. It's reassuring to know that all these people who so vividly describe the horrors of Hell and can't wait for that day to arrive are completely and utterly dead-wrong. Cheers, D. What makes you think Christians want people in hell? Do you know people hate Christians and want them to shut up? Still they warn others and try to offer the words of Salvation in Christ to others. Did you know Jesus does not want one of His children in Hell but still they snub and ignore Him… and so they go… they go for the candy of the world cause it taste so much better than kneeling to a God that created this world? Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 What makes you think Christians want people in hell? Speaking to some of them. Do you know people hate Christians and want them to shut up? Yep. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
JGT Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Yeah, I worked in the religious/philosophy section at the Borders in Chicago. I used to see a lot of movement of every type of book. Except Bibles. I remember one time we had to inventory everything which involved pulling a lot of books all the shelf. There was so much dust being kicked up I was sneezing and spent the rest of the day trying to convince my friends I was allergic to the Bible. lol Good times. Link to post Share on other sites
LaughMachine Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 God loves you so much that he won't send you to tell. He will give your soul another incarnation to go through karma inorder to get things right. And you keep repeating that process than your soul will become eternal. DUhhhh Link to post Share on other sites
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