Feminism and weakening religion are the cause of increasing divorce rates

[saiveca]

The not knowing is part of the fun, the excitement, the passion. Where's the passion in what you are suggesting? Where is the spontaneity? I would guess that many husbands would be happy to do without routine, perfunctory blowjobs in favor of passionate sex with a wife who actually WANTS to have sex with him, and who is hot for him right then.

 

Passion is fun. Very true. Passion is awesome.

 

Passion brings people together but passion also tear people apart.

 

Sometimes I want to have sex with my hubby, sometimes I feel tired. But even when I am tired, I'll make an effort because I love him and I want what's best for him.

 

Doesn't make our lives perfect but it makes things more pleasant for the both of us.

[Tomcat33]

Ok... So how does religion fit into your recipe for ha-penis?

 

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[saiveca]

Furthermore, the simple fact that you have felt so weak in terms of this temptation clearly shows you are not content with yourself of your H, despite how much head you are giving.

 

Pardon my bluntness but that's what I see.

 

Bluntness forgiven. But here's my answer.

 

If you've never felt weak yourself you are either young and inexperienced with long term relationships OR you are in total denial.

[saiveca]

Ok... So how does religion fit into your recipe for ha-penis?

 

Religion sets values and rules for a healthy relationship. Doesn't mean I had to stay virgin until marriage. That is silly.

[vonerik012]

The sad thing for women is that they are so easily led, or manipulated by friends, the media, current trends, etc. They have little idea about their true nature, or what men want and need. They don't even know what they want or need themselves. They want an alpha male, who doesnt sleep with many women, who makes lots of money, but respects her career, who doesn't work too much, but is not lazy, who is not clingy, but not too aloof, who has feelings, but also is not a wimp, who wants sex, but not too much, who is a certain height, and drives a certain car, Etc etc

 

Below are 2 different types of women.

 

 

1.You have the illusion of being "free", and you are single. You do not have a man telling you what to do. But are you really free? Spiritually free? Or are you just trapped into a different societal box? You have a boss to answer to. A bank or landlord you must pay on time. A job you must wake up for every single morning. The list goes on and on. And as this goes on and on, you are not receiving any real love. Just a work slave who thinks they are '"free', while just working to stay afloat in most cases.

 

 

 

2. Or you are married, and a submissive housewife. You picked a good man, and he takes care of everything, and you take care of him. You are valuable to him, and he wants to make you happy. You relinquish control, and you are spiritually free. You receive love. Since you actually know what your role is, life is simple, enjoyable, and far less hectic.

 

The number 2 woman is married rather quickly. The number 1 woman is left talking about how all the men they meet want to do "A2m" or give them facials on the first date. Then after they are used for a while, the initial attraction wears off, and they realize they don't have much in common at all with the guy they chose.

[Kamille]

Religion sets values and rules for a healthy relationship. Doesn't mean I had to stay virgin until marriage. That is silly.

 

Ok so you'll allow for some flexibility in your rules.

 

What are those other rules for happiness, apart form serving a man his daily 'treat'?

 

What exactly does "women should know their roles" mean?

[LionLover]

So what's my "theory", LionLover?

 

I don't presume to actually "know", but I can guess what it may be.

 

I'll just keep reading these posts in the meantime

[Kamille]

Below are 2 different types of women.

 

 

1.You have the illusion of being "free", and you are single. You do not have a man telling you what to do. But are you really free? Spiritually free? Or are you just trapped into a different societal box? You have a boss to answer to. A bank or landlord you must pay on time. A job you must wake up for every single morning. The list goes on and on. And as this goes on and on, you are not receiving any real love. Just a work slave who thinks they are '"free', while just working to stay afloat in most cases.

 

 

 

2. Or you are married, and a submissive housewife. You picked a good man, and he takes care of everything, and you take care of him. You are valuable to him, and he wants to make you happy. You relinquish control, and you are spiritually free. You receive love. Since you actually know what your role is, life is simple, enjoyable, and far less hectic.

 

The number 2 woman is married rather quickly. The number 1 woman is left talking about how all the men they meet want to do "A2m" or give them facials on the first date. Then after they are used for a while, the initial attraction wears off, and they realize they don't have much in common at all with the guy they chose.

 

Who are you to decide what makes other people happy Von?

[Tomcat33]

Bluntness forgiven. But here's my answer.

 

If you've never felt weak yourself you are either young and inexperienced with long term relationships OR you are in total denial.

 

 

Oh I have had many many weaknesses. There is always a source to a weakness. Maybe you should explore yours since I think the one who is in denial is you.

 

But heck if giving head very night but wanting to be with other men outside of your marriage is what makes you happy then maybe you are on to something. Who said infidelity is bad for a marriage?

[vonerik012]

After a while, people also become content if they are in prison. Does that mean it is what people should strive for? To be prisoners in a penitentiary?

 

Yes, working and paying bills, and being single is not a "hell" for all women, but is that their optimum form of happiness? Is that what people are on Earth for? To be single, work, and buy things?

[kchiapet95]

Yes, Von, once you know your role and you're a mindless drone that does what you're told, you're loved because you're like such a little child that needs to be taken care of and coddled, as opposed to an adult who can take care of her own needs...

 

Oh hell. What's the use?

 

Anyway, my man loves me and my sassy mouth. It would bore him to death if I was "submissive." Those are his words, not mine.

 

Now THAT works for me but I wouldn't dream of telling you to stop giving your H his nightly BJ if that is what keeps your family afloat.

 

To each his/her own, and MYOB.

[D-Lish]

Who are you to decide what makes other people happy Von?

 

Well apparantly he is the ever insightful guy that not only knows what makes women happy- but he is the guy that has definitive knowledge of the mere "two" types of women that exist in life....

Those that give up humility to serve men... and those that do A2M.

Makes sense to me.

I guess I am destined to living a life threatened by e-coli.

Oh well. At least "Days of our Lives" is getting juicy.

[LionLover]

Geesh Vonerik only two categories? What about the cougars & the milfs you spoke of from that one thread the other day?

[vonerik012]

Mindless drone? lol

 

It is a marriage. It is not supposed to be 2 people together so they can compete, and be independent of each other. They are supposed to work together, make each other feel good in any way possible, and help one another.

 

Submissive women are far from "mindless drones". Should their be 2 dominants? 2 submissives?

[Tomcat33]

Yes, working and paying bills, and being single is not a "hell" for all women, but is that their optimum form of happiness? Is that what people are on Earth for? To be single, work, and buy things?

 

 

So why aren't you married? You must have opportunities comming out of your ying yang, with your stellar views, never ending supply of manliness, wisdom and finances, PLUS you seem to be very against being single so the question begs to be asked:

 

What's the hold up why are you single?

 

A little something called "hypocrisy" perhaps?

[vonerik012]

Tomcat, help me with that saying.. Interesting people talk about ideas, boring people talk about things, and dump people talk about other people? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Or do you have nothing to ad to the idea part, so you will just start posting my comments from other threads onto this one?

[LionLover]

dump people talk about other people? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

It's "dumb".

 

Hehe, jk!

[Kamille]

Tomcat, help me with that saying.. Interesting people talk about ideas, boring people talk about things, and dump people talk about other people? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Or do you have nothing to ad to the idea part, so you will just start posting my comments from other threads onto this one?

 

And people caught in propaganda change the topic.

[kchiapet95]

Submissive women are far from "mindless drones". Should their be 2 dominants? 2 submissives?

 

If my partner excels in an area where I lack, he should and will take the lead. But if I excel in an area and he lacks, I'm not going to sit back and say, "Baby, take the wheel...you're the man, I know my role." I'm going to drive the car. That's what it's about, give and take. There aren't any roles. It's about what works for your individual relationship.

 

I agree with Tomcat...it's pretty clear why you are single. Good luck with that, buddy!

[Tomcat33]

Tomcat, help me with that saying.. Interesting people talk about ideas, boring people talk about things, and dump people talk about other people? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Or do you have nothing to ad to the idea part, so you will just start posting my comments from other threads onto this one?

 

 

Just as I thought! Nothing.

 

When you get married and start to live the life you preach all us women should be living come back and post about it until then you are nothing more than another # a # which if we cross you on the street will get rejected by any number of us ladies, as fast as we can say VON-BOYAGE!

[vonerik012]

Yeah stay on topic then..

 

I do think women who claim they do not need to be loved, or yearn to be loved, are either kidding themselves, severely damaged, or just shallow and brainwashed.

 

The question is, how do you obtain this true love from a man?

[LionLover]

If my partner excels in an area where I lack, he should and will take the lead. But if I excel in an area and he lacks, I'm not going to sit back and say, "Baby, take the wheel...you're the man, I know my role." I'm going to drive the car. That's what it's about, give and take. There aren't any roles. It's about what works for your individual relationship.

 

That's somewhere along the lines of my thinking too. Good point cha cha chia!

 

Although, sometimes I suck at certain things in which case I would be happy to concede

[kchiapet95]

When you get married and start to live the life you preach all us women should be living come back and post about it until then you are nothing more than another # a # which if we cross you on the street will get rejected by any number of us ladies, as fast as we can say VON-BOYAGE!

 

:lmao:

[D-Lish]

Tomcat, help me with that saying.. Interesting people talk about ideas, boring people talk about things, and dump people talk about other people? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Or do you have nothing to ad to the idea part, so you will just start posting my comments from other threads onto this one?

 

Actually, the dump people probably talk about how to best manage the sanitation and how to handle the never ending bear problem.

Unless they work with people they don't like- in which case I am sure they probably do talk about other people behind their backs.

[vonerik012]

Yes of course. People have different roles, depending on strengths and weaknesses.

 

A very submissive woman can have much more true power in a relationship than the man, and be treated far better by him than any career type bossy woman could dream of.