Feminism and weakening religion are the cause of increasing divorce rates

[djhall]

I know what my role is and how to keep my man happy. We've been married for many years now and I can't remember the last time my husband went to sleep without a blowjob. That's what he loves and it is my role and duty to satisfy him.

 

Well, I got that far into the OP and realized I had to recuse myself from this thread due to a conflict of interest. As a man, there is simply no way I can be objective in considering the proposal that a husband should get a blowjob every day!

[saiveca]

I'm not disrespecting anyone, I'm merely stating the very obvious fact that the new and improved formula doesn't work anymore.

 

Along the years we have fought a lot for our rights. But now it has gone too far and the fight for independence has been given priority over the solidity of the family.

 

We are very lucky to count on my parents to look after our daughter on weekdays. That's another flaw of the Western civilization: grandparents are almost excluded from the family.

 

So why is it that satisfying my man, who wants a blowjob everyday, any more mechanical than my husband playing with our daughter even when he is exhausted?

 

A long relationship starts with passion but it is based on compromise and effort. I don't feel like I am forced to suck his cock. I'm not always hot and horny but I like doing whatever pleases him. Similarly, I don't always feel like playing with our daughter. But yet I do because she enjoys it.

 

People who base their rationale on "passion" and "super independence" miss out on the core of what a marriage actually is and why some people succeed but many fail.

[Tomcat33]

I'm not disrespecting anyone, I'm merely stating the very obvious fact that the new and improved formula doesn't work anymore.

 

Along the years we have fought a lot for our rights. But now it has gone too far and the fight for independence has been given priority over the solidity of the family.

 

We are very lucky to count on my parents to look after our daughter on weekdays. That's another flaw of the Western civilization: grandparents are almost excluded from the family.

 

So why is it that satisfying my man, who wants a blowjob everyday, any more mechanical than my husband playing with our daughter even when he is exhausted?

 

A long relationship starts with passion but it is based on compromise and effort. I don't feel like I am forced to suck his cock. I'm not always hot and horny but I like doing whatever pleases him. Similarly, I don't always feel like playing with our daughter. But yet I do because she enjoys it.

 

People who base their rationale on "passion" and "super independence" miss out on the core of what a marriage actually is and why some people succeed but many fail.

 

 

Terrfic finally some headway and those are all valid points.

Thanks for explaining that it certainly takes on a very different tone than your opening post. Sometimes it takes a lot of back and forth but it can come out in the end.

 

Now having said that.

 

Where does infidelity and the idea that you have had ot fight it off on many occasion, and even by some of the posts you made on here on LS less than a year ago state that you even put yourself in situations where you could have been unfaithful, fit into this core of what a marriage actually is ?

 

Can you please answer that? There is still something intrinsically off about your claims, and I am trying to put the puzzle together to make sense of it.

 

I guess my question is did this revelation happen after coming close to crossing the line of temptation? And perhaps after long neglect towards your H or the marriage on both parts? This is an important detail that really gives meaning to your statement. Otherwise your thoughts don't really match. you see what I'm saying?

 

 

[saiveca]

When I felt weak and tempted, I had two options.

 

One, I give in to my thirst for passion and excitement, something that will be lacking in ANY long term relationship at one point or another. Anyone who claims otherwise has never been there or is a liar.

 

Two, I remain focused on my long term priorities and my responsibilities as a wife and mother.

 

I chose option two so please give me a break...

 

My debate was rather caused by women who don't complement their partners because they'd rather be "independent".

[Lovelybird]

OP I agree with your title of this thread, but bj each day? I feel like you are a man

[SexinmyCity]

Do you get an orgasm too, or is it all about him? I am happy, I love sex, and I love mutual orgasms! ...and I am a conservative too!

[Trialbyfire]

I feel like you are a man

Bingo!

[CaliGuy]

If he dipped his penis in some peanut butter I would lick it everyday.

 

*smacks forehead*

 

No wonder I always have Peanut Butter in the house!

[Tomcat33]

When I felt weak and tempted, I had two options.

 

One, I give in to my thirst for passion and excitement, something that will be lacking in ANY long term relationship at one point or another. Anyone who claims otherwise has never been there or is a liar.

 

Two, I remain focused on my long term priorities and my responsibilities as a wife and mother.

 

I chose option two so please give me a break...

 

My debate was rather caused by women who don't complement their partners because they'd rather be "independent".

 

Ok that makes sense.

 

So then I have a few more thoughts. Single women are nothing BUT independent, we have to be or else we cannot survive, so how do you switch gears/hats in a marriage?

 

And my other question is do you feel sexually and emotionally satisfied by your husband? If so was it always like this or if not when did it change?

[Balthazar]

 

We've been married for many years now and I can't remember the last time my husband went to sleep without a blowjob. That's what he loves and it is my role and duty to satisfy him.

 

Bless you dear lady!

Your words brought tears to my eyes.

 

There are so few women who put in that extra effort nowadays.

 

By the way, my religious lady didn't even kiss me, and you blow him every day.

HOW NOT FAIR IS THAT?

 

and what religion do you subscribe to.... we need to spread the word.

[vonerik012]

Why is everyone bashing her for being tempted?

 

Ladies, do you think your SO is never tempted? If he never is, then it is simply because he does not have the opportunity. But trust me, if he has the opportunity, he will be tempted.

 

She sounds like a woman a man would want to marry.And not because of the blow jobs. But her overall attitude. The first I have came across on Loveshack thus far.

 

It amazes me how so many women on here only go on and on about what they deserve, or need, or feel entitled to, but have NEVER spoke about how they would treat a man.

[Woggle]

Feminists think that having any type of loving relationship with a man means she is a doormat. To them women have to constantly be fighting battles with the man in their life or else she is being submissive. I don't think they are capable of having a non-adversarial relationship with a man.

[Balthazar]

Any man married or dating these "feminist" women is getting all he deserves; I have no pity for such men.

Ladies, dig your heels right into his back, he wants it.

 

This western, media-bred mutation of the traditional woman is the main reason why family has gone the way of the dinosaur.

 

We jest and mostly deal in a light-hearted manner with the matter on LS, but it is a beast that has destroyed the fabric of modern society.

 

The result has been millions of single men and women, and children who now consider it more natural to grow up with one parent than with both.

 

It is a tragic state of affairs, and if you want the real "conspirators" you should investigate into who gains from a society with broken families and single people.

 

We may look down upon them, but are we happier than people 40 or 50 years ago?

 

In all honesty, we men are to blame as much as women, probably even more so.

If we took our roles as men more seriously and knew where to draw the line, women wouldn't have reached this point today.

 

Are modern men angels?

No, not by a long shot.

 

I will end the post with a short story.

A lady friend put me in my place the other day.

She is 53 and her husband passed away a few years ago.

I told her that she is a good woman and maybe should look into finding a man and getting on with her life.

 

Her answer was that the man of her life and father of her children passed away.

She neither desires nor could imagine any other man touching her as her husband did.

She added that her happiness comes from watching her children grow; she is truly a nurturing mom.

While I may not completely agree, and feel she has options,

how can I not respect such a woman?

 

Her husband was truly a lucky man.

 

There are still a lot of good women out there,

 

CHeers,

[Jersey Shortie]

*smacks forehead*

 

No wonder I always have Peanut Butter in the house!

 

It looks like we both have the qualities that will sustain a life long marriage then.

 

 

 

It amazes me how so many women on here only go on and on about what they deserve, or need, or feel entitled to, but have NEVER spoke about how they would treat a man.

 

When have you ever talked about how you would treat a woman? You can't point fingers at others for something yuo don't think they are doing when you've been unable to give it yourself.

 

 

As for feminism, it has it pitfalls but it was also a neccessary part of our growth. It's far from perfect but people like to look at the extremist points and think that is what feminism is about. People do the same with religion. All religion becomes bad because of small groupd of extemists that cry the loudest.

 

Turning feminism into a dirty word does no good. Would you really want your daughters living in an age where they couldn't provide for themselves or couldn't vote? One is able to be a feminist and still hold traditional family values. But I don't see many men today themselves that hold tradtional values. I see men that want to act like over grown frat boys well into adult hood.

 

Men and women are equally to blame for the state of affairs of current relationships. Feminism is only one very small part of the entire picture. Men didn't make a mistake because they "didn't put their foot down" and control women. They made the mistake of not making women their equals while apprecaiting how they are different.

 

 

 

Her husband was truly a lucky man.

 

There are still a lot of good women out there,

 

 

But she got older. Doesn't that mean she is just another worthles female? Men don't want that. they want 20 year olds. There is no way she could have been a good woman that a man was lucky to have. Going by what some of the men here say men value of course.

[paddington bear]

Marriages fail because people get married too young and live much longer now.

 

Marriages fail because divorce is so easy to get, when it was a taboo thing to do people either put up with a bad relationship for life or made sure to choose the right person to marry in the first place.

 

Being feminist does not mean that you think there are no differences between men and women, there are key differences, understanding these and working with them helps matters, but should not take away from whatever feminist principles you might have, such as thinking that if you are doing the same job as a man and getting paid less that that is just simply unfair and wrong.

 

Religion, in my opinion, works for some people and guides them. For me I see it as a form of control by other people who think they know better than me what is good for me. For some religious leader/priest whatever to tell me how to run my marriage and sex life is just ridiculous. I have my own moral compass and don't require the interference and rule of anyone else in my private life.

 

We all want 'the happy ever after', but we won't all get it. I can see where you're coming from with your 'do your duty as a woman and keep your man' theory, but I think there are no rules that are applicable to everyone that can be applied in relationships, things can change, emotions can change. Men are about more than just regular sex. Is your marriage a good strong marriage based just on the fact that you haven't had an affair and because you give him regular oral sex? Are you happy otherwise, or just happy because you're not a divorce statistic?

 

I know plenty of married couples who probably should have split up years ago and didn't and are so smug about the fact that they are still married. I don't see them as some shining spectacle of wonderfullness that I should aspire to, yes, you're still married, but not particularly happy, what is so great about that? The married couples who seem genuinely content with one another after years of ups and down and numerous children, they are the ones I want to emulate and these couples have a good sex life and mutual respect for one another without rules about what they have to do to keep their man/woman.

[Trialbyfire]

I'm divorced and truly happy to be that way. A life with my ex-H would have been hell! I'm not even going to state why he was drop-kicked to the curb, just that he was.

 

I'm so glad that women have more options nowadays, rather than needing to give daily blowjobs, just to keep her man. It would truly suck, if making love becomes a daily chore! Hang on, you could vacuum...everything!

[vonerik012]

It looks like we both have the qualities that will sustain a life long marriage then.

 

 

 

 

But she got older. Doesn't that mean she is just another worthles female? Men don't want that. they want 20 year olds. There is no way she could have been a good woman that a man was lucky to have. Going by what some of the men here say men value of course.

 

 

Jersey, why do you insist on saying the same ridiculous thing over and over?

 

All I ever said is I would not marry an older woman. So? And by older, I mean 5 to 10 years older.

 

I also said men prefer women their age or younger.

 

If you are with a woman who has nothing else to offer than sex, then yes, trading her in would be a good idea as she ages. If you are with a woman who is irreplaceable by the way she treats you, age is not nearly as important, as the 2 of you age together.

[Tomcat33]

Jersey, why do you insist on saying the same ridiculous thing over and over?

 

 

PAHAHAHAHAHAHA now THAT'S fresh coming from you!!!

[vonerik012]

Another great post by Tomcat, lol.. You have such insightful ideas to add to every topic..

[Jersey Shortie]

......as the 2 of you age together.

 

 

Men age?

[Tomcat33]

The bottom line is it's the same "complaints" comming from the same types of guys, there are literally thousands of cool men out there who don't fit into this category or even fit the bill. Men who are mature and well adjusted and don't have the amount of baggage these "modern commitment-phobe Peter Pan types" do, that play the same old broken record day in day out. They so desperately want to be loved they lash out at all women in general because any form of attention is better than going through life unnoticed and disregarded.

 

"Waaaah waaaahhh poopy in my pants, baby wants to be held...waaaahhhh"

 

The funny thing is that they don't even realise just how much more undersirable it makes them to have that attitude they are resentful and bitter because they don't call the shots and never will call the shots because they are too weak to be in control. If we hear any of these men's situations and descriptions of what types of experiences they have had with women they all have one major thing in common, they have been burned time and time again by women who can smell their weakness and so they have opted to hate women as a whole because they themselves are out of control. They don't choose, they never got to choose and when they WERE chosen they were spat right out once their scent of dispair came out.

 

I mean c'mon grown men of 37 and 39 asking "does she like me?" she looked at me a certain what do you think that means? Should I give her a kiss I have been out with her 10 times should I kiss her I don't know what to do?" I thought we wen't through all that when we were 15 yrs old but I suppose if you never got out of that stage of your life that would explain your general sense of disorientation when it comes to dealing with women. Two words: PETER PAN.

 

GROW UP ALREADY and watch your attitude towards women and the influx of quality women in your life significantly CHANGE!

 

Women have choices these days, we have the same if not more choices than our conterparts the problem these men have is they have not adjusted to this fact and THEY are the ones that fight reality. They want a modern looking woman half their age with a 50's attitude while they have nothing but insecurities to offer in return. Well good luck with that cowboy! Via this attitude of making women feel bad for being themselves they think they will get women to submit to them. WRONG!

 

It's not about being submissive to a man it is about being in control of yourself. I for one am a modern woman but have abosolutely NO problem submitting to the right man, a chosen man one who is worthy of submission because the bottom line is it's not really submission when you RESPECT the man you are with. If women are not submitting to you it is because you are not worthy of respect, plain and simple .These men are NOT respect worthy, and the only way a woman can win them over is to handle them with "kid gloves". Some women are willing to stoop to that level and in effect become a mother to another baby in the family, some women are NOT.

 

This is why when these men are asked why are you single? They can't answer that. The answer is because he can't seem to find the type of woman that is willing to change his nappies. It is also why when a thread like this one that claims blowjobs every single night until your head explodes is the only way to keep a man happy, all the babies come out of the woodwork like puppies being shown sparkly sticks. Men are not that simple, I am not a man but I have met a fair amount of quality men in life and men are not that simple, and these very same men look for women that are at their level, it's a simple as that.

 

Weaklings never get ahead in life and there is no greater weakling than a man who cries like a baby because things don't go his way. Just as men can smell desperation in women, women can also smell weakness in men. There is no greater weakness than a man who puts on a tough act but is pooping his pants inside, these particular types of men never outgrew their nappies and women smell this. There is nothing MORE unattractive than that and it also explains why they are so bitter and out to get ALL women who don't conform to their fantasy of what a "real woman" should be. They are not looking for women they are looking for their mommies.

 

This is not about feminism at all, it is about RESPECT and maturity. It starts with self respect, something these particular men do NOT have because any self repecting man would not be making the ridiculous comments these men make day in day out and expect to land anything significantly better than what they are getting. A pesimistic and immature attitude is not attractive to anyone of any gender period. Once you clue in to this your fate will change.

[Trialbyfire]

If you replace the word "submit" with "follow" or the term "be lead", I'm with you all the way!

 

I've now learned through recent exposure that I have to amend one of my needs. Previously, the need was that if I feel like I have to nag in a relationship, I'm gone. The amendment includes the above and adds, "If I feel nagged, I'm also gone". Lord almighty, it fluctuates between truly irritating to extremely boring!

[Jersey Shortie]

I'm all for following a man's lead. As long as he treats me with respect and considers what I need and want as well.

[Tomcat33]

That's what I am sayin'!!

 

Respect is the word. If you can't get women to do what you want them to do it's simply because they don't respect you.

 

I learned at a very young age in one of my first relationships that nagging gets you nowhere and even if you do get a man to give you something after you nag it doesn't feel good at all. The best way to get a man to meet your needs is to give him what you've got without compromising your integrity or losing yourself. Most decent men will be more than receptive to this.

 

When a man hates all women because they don't get what they feel they should get, you know exactly what kind of man you are dealing with here. You are dealing with the type of guy women don't respect.

[Kamille]

Tomcat is positively inspired today!

 

I concur 100%.

 

Love is about mutual respect and trust. I'm willing to compromise when I feel my partner has both our best interests at heart. I bulk when the compromises are always one-sided... Always about meeting his needs and keeping him happy.