Feminism and weakening religion are the cause of increasing divorce rates

[Trialbyfire]

As for the OP, I requote another member within this thread.

 

I feel like you are a man

[Tomcat33]

I cannot say I wish my mom worked, but I have heard many kids say they wish their parents spent more time with them.

 

 

Yes but ask your mother if she would have liked to have done a little more with herself other than devote her entire life to her kids and husband, ask her if she is not fed up of making three meals for everyone and would like to be the one to home to a cooked meal a clean house and fresh clothes for a change?

 

Granted I have never heard a child say "I wish my mom worked" when she was a stay home mom, I am also seeing the same kind of neglect in seeing how much your mother sacrificed to make sure she gave up everything more she could have been as a woman and invidual so that you can come on here and bash women as a whole with the extremely sexist and immature comments you make here day in day out.

 

I bet your mom would not be proud of half the crap that comes out of your mouth in regards to women, and I also bet she did not give up herself for that.

 

The question begs to be asked, if the female role in your family was such a positive one why in the world do you have such a negative and harsh attitude towards women as a whole?

[Tomcat33]

And do you notice, TC, that he has yet to really come up with a valid response to the point you and I have brought up several times? He keeps saying the OP is happy. If she really were, why in the world would she have to work so ever-lovin' hard to not screw around on her husband? The thought of getting with another man NEVER enters my mind.

 

 

Yeah exactly as of yet no answer, he does this in every thread, he changes or spins when you ask him a challenging question. And it's not just him Dirkdiggler and a few other guys that piped in also neglected this very real aspect of this woman's claims. So if we take the few men's reactions to it here then we can assess one of two things

 

a) deep down a man does not really give a crap is a woman is faithful or not provided she is only there to cater to his selfsh sexual needs rain or shine

 

b) the guys that piped in refuse to acknowledge the white elephant in the room because it is more convenient this way

 

 

I opt for for b, what do you say?

[vonerik012]

Ok I will answer your question.

 

I am not a woman, so I do not know if women desire other men sexually. Do they? I do know that statistically just as many women cheat as men.

 

I do know that ALL men do. Some follow through, some do not. Yes, all men would like to experience other women after being married for a long time. Thats just common sense. Following through is wrong.

 

There are many women that post on LS that I do like. I do not have to like all attitudes or all women, anymore than you are forced to like all men, or all male attitudes.

[Tomcat33]

*ding ding ding* Winner!!! B it is! And TC has won herself a handy dick sucking machine, guaranteed to keep her man happy, come rain or shine, in sickness and in health! Now she won't have to keep scrubbing those nasty stains out of the knees of her jeans.

 

 

Ohhh really? I was kind of looking forward to my get out jail free card for infidelity because I was going to be the devoted meat sucking machine.

I am hearing The Cult song in my head "Cum Removal Machiiiiiiiineee"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joR59Izl_Zw

[vonerik012]

Women on here are odd.

 

This woman is attacked because

 

A. She does not cheat, but has thought of sex with other men.

B. She gives bjs to her husband every night.

 

Meanwhile, other women on here receive no slack for having unprotected threesomes with gay men. Not even one poster questions how wrong that is, lol.

[Tomcat33]

Ok I will answer your question.

 

I am not a woman, so I do not know if women desire other men sexually. Do they? I do know that statistically just as many women cheat as men.

 

I do know that ALL men do. Some follow through, some do not. Yes, all men would like to experience other women after being married for a long time. Thats just common sense. Following through is wrong.

 

There are many women that post on LS that I do like. I do not have to like all attitudes or all women, anymore than you are forced to like all men, or all male attitudes.

 

 

Excuse me but you just groupd three very distinctive things in one whole basket.

 

1. anyone can "think" what's it like to be with X that's not cheating

 

2. some people put themselves in a situation where they will be compromised to flirt with disaster and think "oh man I want X sooo bad, why do I keep going out of my way to be alone with X and enjoy their company. The OP's past claims she has done this, this SIGNIFICANTLY different than #1.

 

3. Im going for it I am doing X. 100% cheating

 

In # 2, 3 you are crossing lines, no matter how you look at it, and in #3 you are fully cheating but in #2 you are doing it emotionally. To say that eveyrone does #2 and #3 is to say fidelity does not exist. If it doesn't exist why do you come down so hard on sexually liberated women?

 

Or is it that it should only exist for men?

[vonerik012]

I've read many of the horror stories on this board and I am so glad I am married to my man. Most people who think that we are a conservative family. I believe that there's a pre-defined role for the man and for the woman. I do not feel like he is my superior, not do I feel the need to proove that I am his equal.

 

Despite the recent turmoil in my life (I was tempted to cheat on many occasions), I am proud to say that I have never been unfaithful to my husband. I know what my role is and how to keep my man happy. We've been married for many years now and I can't remember the last time my husband went to sleep without a blowjob. That's what he loves and it is my role and duty to satisfy him.

 

I know a lot of people would disagree with me but let me tell you that my man has his own duties too and I can appreciate the effort that he puts in to keep our family happy. I think that all of the women who are seeking for equality at all costs are killing their couple. And I think that too much liberalism has led to the disrespect of religion. That is another reason why there are so many divorces.

 

I think it's about time that the Western world realizes that some important changes are necessary. Women, know your role. And make sure religion is at the core of your lives. That is how you can achieve eternal happiness.

 

Caroline

 

Where does it say she "must". Or did you just add that? he loves it, and she feels it is her duty. Nowhere did she says she "must", or that he is forcing her.

[vonerik012]

All she said was she was tempted to cheat. Men with options are tempted to cheat all the time. So, I do not know if women do feel "tempted" after they have been married for a long time. i do not know if that is regualr, rare, or uncommon.

 

I DO KNOW that just as many women cheat as men. I read about 50-60%. So it seems many women ARE TEMPTED and actually follow through. How many of the remainder are tempted, but do not follow through? How many live a life and are never tempted at all? Must be less than 50%, thats for sure.

[serial muse]

I guess people need to decide for themselves what is more important. Money for buying things, or money for security, freedom, and options.

 

For someone who looks down on excessive capitalism, there's an odd obsession with money in these words. As though it's the only route to happiness. There are other things that make life fulfilling, you know. Love, friendship, emotional closeness and trust, intellectual stimulation (yes I said it), involvement with community and society in whatever way one can contribute best. It's not all about money, and I think you'll be a happier person when you stop obsessing about it, vonerik. Yes, money is necessary to live and support a family, but there are many ways to do that. Try to move past this single-minded viewpoint.

 

Life can be so much richer than the above statement suggests.

[vonerik012]

To me, and probably any other human being on the planet (besides you and Dick - er, Dirk that is), the bolded translates to "must." And she said "her duty." MUST

 

I MUST do my duties at my workplace. Or I'll get fired.

 

LOL.. She did not use the word must, so why are you?

 

She said "I would never want to deny him that". She did not say "I must or i will get divorced"

 

That is a want, not a must. If you are correct you should not have to change her words.

[vonerik012]

Some people feel obligated to pray everyday. Or exercise everyday. So? She feels like giving a bj everyday. Wow, how horrible.

[Touche]

Where does it say she "must". Or did you just add that? he loves it, and she feels it is her duty. Nowhere did she says she "must", or that he is forcing her.

 

I agree with you but her calling it a "duty" makes it sound like it's a job..therefore something she "must" do and not something she wants to do.

 

I mean I won't lie...sometimes H wants one when I'm not particularly up for it but I'll do it to make him happy. But I'd never characterize that as a "duty." I just like to please my H.

 

He also does things for me when he doesn't feel like it (non-sexual things though since he's always up for sexual stuff! )

[Trialbyfire]

And oh, so happy that she has to fight over and over again not to f some other guy. I'm sure if I told my man, "Honey, I love you, and you should be so proud because I've worked very hard the last couple months to keep myself from screwing numerous men. I mean, I really, REALLY wanted to, but I didn't - just for you," he'd be overjoyed.

The human psychy is a funny thing. When people are forced to do things, they strike out in passive aggressive ways such as cheating or thoughts of cheating.

[vonerik012]

What if I said...

 

" My wife and I have been married for many years now and I can't remember the last time my wife went to sleep without me getting her off. That's what she loves and it is my role and duty to satisfy her, as she is my wife.

 

Or.... I never tell my wife that I have a headache because I would never want to deny her the most pleasant thing in life.

 

Seems fine to me..

 

I guess feminists just hate the idea of a woman pleasing a man.

[serial muse]

What if I said...

 

" My wife and I have been married for many years now and I can't remember the last time my wife went to sleep without me getting her off. That's what she loves and it is my role and duty to satisfy her, as she is my wife.

 

Or.... I never tell my wife that I have a headache because I would never want to deny her the most pleasant thing in life.

 

Seems fine to me..

 

I guess feminists just hate the idea of a woman pleasing a man.

 

As long as you didn't add..."Men, know your place."

 

Oh, and don't work, it's selfish.

[Touche]

And if you weren't feeling well, I'm sure he would rather you NOT ignore that just to make his dick feel good.

 

Of course. Do I seem like a woman who would be married to a selfish man?

[vonerik012]

I think many of you women WISH you could relinquish control, and know the OP is actually right. But you are conflicted, and hate to be told what to do.

 

Because for what she said, there is really nothing wrong with it. A woman should do her best to please her husband, and vice versa.

[Touche]

I think many of you women WISH you could relinquish control, and know the OP is actually right. But you are conflicted, and hate to be told what to do.

 

Because for what she said, there is really nothing wrong with it. A woman should do her best to please her husband, and vice versa.

 

I agree with this.

 

As long as both parties are pleasing each other and no one is being taken advantage of, anything goes - within reason.

[serial muse]

I think many of you women WISH you could relinquish control, and know the OP is actually right. But you are conflicted, and hate to be told what to do.

 

You've got to be kidding me with this.

 

This sounds like some serious wishful thinking. I'm sure this is how you wish things were.

[Trialbyfire]

After reading this thread, I will never be a SAHM!

[vonerik012]

What if a male poster posted something stereotypical telling men how to treat their wives..

 

"Men know your role, work hard, take good care of her, respect her, buy her things, support her" etc. Would many men be posting and bashing him? No.

 

I already proved how what she said would be completely fine and respected if it came from a man. The only problem you have with it, is that it entails a woman pleasuring her husband.

[Tomcat33]

What if I said...

 

" My wife and I have been married for many years now and I can't remember the last time my wife went to sleep without me getting her off. That's what she loves and it is my role and duty to satisfy her, as she is my wife.

 

Or.... I never tell my wife that I have a headache because I would never want to deny her the most pleasant thing in life.

 

 

As long as you didn't add "men know your place because I know mine" then that's fine.

 

Also as long as you didn't start threads with the following query

 

"I aked a man I work with out to dinner and I enjoy his company very much and we get along so well, I'm not sure why I did this, but do you think he thinks this is a date?" And then later claim that you have had to "many times have had to fight off tempations" temptations which I might add you yourself created and put youself in and "can't explain why!?!?", then I would definitely be open to what you have to say.

 

Gees click on her back posts will you, get a clue!

[vonerik012]

I thought it was about this current thread. i did not know all of you were talking about her past posts.

 

So she said "know your place".. That is what the big deal is about? lol

 

"Men, know your place, and treat your woman well. Sacrifice and do things for her to make her happy, even if you do not feel good"

 

WOWOWOW how horrible! That guy suggested I know my place!!!!

[Trialbyfire]

Any mate I settle down with won't need to know his place, as I don't need to know my place. We, as a couple, will share marital and family responsibilities, both feeding the relationship and the family. There won't be sexual daily obligations. We'll both want to make love to give/get pleasure. This way, we don't build sexual resentments and lash out in passive-aggressive thoughts or actions of cheating.