Feminism and weakening religion are the cause of increasing divorce rates

[Kamille]

Yeah stay on topic then..

 

I do think women who claim they do not need to be loved, or yearn to be loved, are either kidding themselves, severely damaged, or just shallow and brainwashed.

 

The question is, how do you obtain this true love from a man?

 

The question is, what about men? What about you? What are your (Von's)* needs and why does meeting your needs involve you being disatisfied with a whole gender?

 

You make claims about a whole gender and their happiness... What about you Von? Why are you single if relationships are so integral to the well-being of society?

 

*Just want to reassure all men out there I know they don't all share Von's POV.

[kchiapet95]

You know what this makes me think of, LL? I have an older sister who has lived at a commune with her husband for 19 years. Now, my siblings and I are all avid readers, and good public speakers. My brother in law, her husband is a HORRIBLE reader, and a smug, obnoxious teacher. (How interesting that he is both!) I remember when I first heard him read, I was 9 or 10 years old and I thought, "My goodness, I can read better than that." But because he's a man, and only because he's a man, he has the "privilege" of reading aloud and teaching from the stage at religious meetings...and my sister does not.

 

Yet, my sister is the better teacher, reader...but because she is the WOMAN and the submissive wife, she is not allowed to teach.

 

I call BS.

[LionLover]

Actually, the dump people probably talk about how to best manage the sanitation and how to handle the never ending bear problem.

 

 

:laugh::laugh:

[vonerik012]

I think they are very integral, and people do operate best with a partner.

In many different ways. Women are very important to men. And men are important to women.

 

The question is, how will you obtain a man's true love and devotion?

[LionLover]

You know what this makes me think of, LL? I have an older sister who has lived at a commune with her husband for 19 years. Now, my siblings and I are all avid readers, and good public speakers. My brother in law, her husband is a HORRIBLE reader, and a smug, obnoxious teacher. (How interesting that he is both!) I remember when I first heard him read, I was 9 or 10 years old and I thought, "My goodness, I can read better than that." But because he's a man, and only because he's a man, he has the "privilege" of reading aloud and teaching from the stage at religious meetings...and my sister does not.

 

Yet, my sister is the better teacher, reader...but because she is the WOMAN and the submissive wife, she is not allowed to teach.

 

I call BS.

 

Yes, I called BS as soon as I read the OP's opening post.

 

Call me crazy

[Tomcat33]

You make claims about a whole gender and their happiness... What about you Von? Why are you single if relationships are so integral to the well-being of society?

 

 

He is never going to answer that. There are only two possible options here,

 

 

1. he is as "selective and choosey" as the women he constantly cuts up (so in other words a complete hypocrite)

 

2. he is just a poor sap that can't get women to pay attention to him

[Kamille]

I think they are very integral, and people do operate best with a partner.

In many different ways. Women are very important to men. And men are important to women.

 

The question is, how will you obtain a man's true love and devotion?

 

The collateral question is, how will you obtain a woman's true love and devotion?

[saiveca]

Actually, the dump people probably talk about how to best manage the sanitation and how to handle the never ending bear problem.

Unless they work with people they don't like- in which case I am sure they probably do talk about other people behind their backs.

 

What's that movie with Jim Carrey? Is it Dump and Dumper?

 

Or is it Forrest Dump perhaps?

[Tomcat33]

The collateral question is, how will you obtain a woman's true love and devotion?

 

 

And why aren't you married VonErik?

[kchiapet95]

You're right TC. He keeps turning it around to ask about the woman but won't answer for himself, which is completely hypocritical.

[Tomcat33]

What's that movie with Jim Carrey? Is it Dump and Dumper?

 

Or is it Forrest Dump perhaps?

 

 

Yes and the family in the Sound of Music were the VonDumps?

[vonerik012]

Tomcat, how is my personal life related to the thread? Maybe you should read the loveshack rules. Do you ever have anything intelligent to add to a discussion other than making personal attacks or assumptions?

 

Maybe since you never have any ideas, you are not open for attack on a personal level, so you just snipe at others. Just really intellectually boring..

[LionLover]

The question is, how will you obtain a man's true love and devotion?

 

Well for some, that would include Pepe Le Page's post, the small boobs post, the snowball/ATM post and, uhhh, a few others.

[vonerik012]

Such a simple question and nobody can answer it...

[kchiapet95]

VonERik, your personal life pertains to the thread because you are implying that a woman needs to be submissive in order to obtain a man's love and devotion. We would like to see if this has been true in your personal experience. I think it's perfectly appropriate for you to respond.

 

But of course you won't!

[LionLover]

Yes and the family in the Sound of Music were the VonDumps?

 

Yes and let us not forget the Von Dumpiesel, he has smoking dumps...opps, I mean abs.

[vonerik012]

It's a theoretical discussion. I really don't care, nor am I asking any of you women why you are or are not married. Who cares? To me that is boring.

[kchiapet95]

Nobody can answer it including yourself, and you have been asked!

 

I personally did answer...I said my man would hate for me to be submissive, it would bore him to death. He loves that I'm intelligent and I speak my mind and we have stimulating discussions..and the intimacy is amazing. It's taken a while to find someone like that...but he is worth the wait.

 

Your turn.

[Tomcat33]

Tomcat, how is my personal life related to the thread? Maybe you should read the loveshack rules. Do you ever have anything intelligent to add to a discussion other than making personal attacks or assumptions?

 

Maybe since you never have any ideas, you are not open for attack on a personal level, so you just snipe at others. Just really intellectually boring..

 

Why aren't you married it is completely relevant to the topic because you claim that women should not be single because we are unhappy being single so why are you single?

 

 

Do you think your second rate insults get to me? I can run circles around you baby.

 

The question is why are you single?

[kchiapet95]

Ahh, you don't care. Then, why'd you post?

 

All this talk about "dumps" reminds me of "The Thong Song." Do you remember that line, "She had dumps like a truck, truck truck..."

 

LOL!

[saiveca]

BTW my thread has nothing to do with being submissive.

 

Here's an example of a rule that can be debated.

 

I strongly believe that children should be raised by family, not by strangers (daycare, nanny). But yet in today's world it became so important for women to have an interesting career that they spend half of their paychecks on daycare services. I think our families and cultures suffer from this "war for independence". A struggle that hurts the actual purpose of its existence.

[vonerik012]

Saiveca, I agree.

 

And the word submissive is misunderstood by many. Even the act of sex is a woman naturally submitting to a man. It is the natural flow.

[LionLover]

A. It's not a "rule"

B. Interesting view point.

C. I'm not playing.

[kchiapet95]

I agree with you LL...I'm not playing.

[Tomcat33]

BTW my thread has nothing to do with being submissive.

 

Here's an example of a rule that can be debated.

 

I strongly believe that children should be raised by family, not by strangers (daycare, nanny). But yet in today's world it became so important for women to have an interesting career that they spend half of their paychecks on daycare services. I think our families and cultures suffer from this "war for independence". A struggle that hurts the actual purpose of its existence.

 

 

I agree, ideally if the choice is there I think the parents should raise the kids not strangers. But ultimately it is YOUR family and you should deal with it as you see fit.

 

In some families financially speaking it's not an option for one parent to stay home.

 

Essentially I believe in old values too, but I respect not everyone has them.

 

I still don't see how your opening post relates to this, or better yet I still don't see what this magic formula of yours is beyond giving blow jobs evey night, is there anything more you would like to add or was that the answer to life and marriage?