tokyo Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by Devildog Why does it not die? It is almost two years old. Why does someone come along every two weeks and dig it up again? Why not? It's not a thread with a problem, just a general topic where people want to put their two cents in. I just find it a bit boring to see this accumulation of so-called nice guys who complain that they always finish last. Link to post Share on other sites
Devildog Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 It's just when I got to the "New" posts and see this one up there, and then look at the date. It's just not natural I am telling you. A thread isn't meant to have this long a life. Stabbity stabbity stabbity stabbity. Link to post Share on other sites
Vietdude in T.O. Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Interesting thread. I am an AsianM/23 Y. I'm kind of a loner so I've never been hardcore about finding a girlfriend. Girls have expressed interest in me when I was younger, but I've never felt like I was stable enough to foster a loving relationship with them-which is why to this day I've never been on a date. I'm not that tall 5'7" and 160 lbs-medium build-so I don't think it's impossible for me to find a girlfriend in/outside my race. I think the whole IR is sad, but it's also a positive thing. It's true that when two cultures fuse together, often the males from the dominant culture will 'cultivate' the females of the other culture. It's just cultural evolution. All the document contacts between two foreign cultures always resulted in the same pattern of mating. It's very human and primal. And the reason why you see so many more AF/WF is because White is considered superior, and Asian (male AND female) are considered inferior. Given that men mostly marry women who they think is subservient, and therefore control, it's not a surprise that we so many of these unions around. I often look at Asian guys as the necessary losers. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with them. They are a very good looking race if you don't compare the bottom 10% with the top 10% of Whites. There are so many qualities an Asian guy can offer that you wouldn't find in a white guy society at large undermines them at everyturn. I have NO IDEA what point I was trying to get across here except maybe what's going on is just a natural pattern of mating. It may not be the ideal way in which we'd like it to happen, but it's just an expression of a very ancient phenomenon. Link to post Share on other sites
WatchingU Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Interesting thread. I am an AsianM/23 Y. I'm kind of a loner so I've never been hardcore about finding a girlfriend. Girls have expressed interest in me when I was younger, but I've never felt like I was stable enough to foster a loving relationship with them-which is why to this day I've never been on a date. I'm not that tall 5'7" and 160 lbs-medium build-so I don't think it's impossible for me to find a girlfriend in/outside my race. I think the whole IR is sad, but it's also a positive thing. It's true that when two cultures fuse together, often the males from the dominant culture will 'cultivate' the females of the other culture. It's just cultural evolution. All the document contacts between two foreign cultures always resulted in the same pattern of mating. It's very human and primal. And the reason why you see so many more AF/WF is because White is considered superior, and Asian (male AND female) are considered inferior. Given that men mostly marry women who they think is subservient, and therefore control, it's not a surprise that we so many of these unions around. I often look at Asian guys as the necessary losers. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with them. They are a very good looking race if you don't compare the bottom 10% with the top 10% of Whites. There are so many qualities an Asian guy can offer that you wouldn't find in a white guy society at large undermines them at everyturn. I have NO IDEA what point I was trying to get across here except maybe what's going on is just a natural pattern of mating. It may not be the ideal way in which we'd like it to happen, but it's just an expression of a very ancient phenomenon. Link to post Share on other sites
brent Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 hi im brent im aussie guy um i really think that with cultural background things can be different i have one south east asain friend and she is extremly shy yet addorbale and extramly nice and id give anythign just to kiss her once on the cheek but aisde from that u would find excluding personalities there are simarlaritues between one culture and differences between the other Link to post Share on other sites
mochasmooches Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Sweetie, while I am not professing to be the end-all be-all on the subject of interracial relationships with Asian men, I do believe that its not as common as other interracial pairings. Now, having said that, I'm a Black woman who dates a myriad of men. Personally, I have only dated one Asian gentleman in my life, and found that experience to be very rewarding. The difference in our cultures allowed us both to be very inquisitive about each other's backgrounds, which made every day something new for us. With regards to women outside of your race not choosing to date Asian men, you ask "Is it cuz of the way we look", or because of the stereotype, I think its purely a personal preference, as are most choices in life. I personally find Asian men extremely attractive. As far as stereotypes go, don't buy into that. For every stereotype that you can "validate", there's one person out there to prove that stereotype wrong -- don't let yourself be brainwashed by the narrow minds of other. Keep search hon -- the woman that you want will make herself known to you -- whether she's Black, Asian, White, Spanish, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Natural9 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 As an asian male that hasn't logged into this site for several months I'm happy to see this thread going STRONG. Half the stuff written was amusing. I've dated mostly white women but then again they all asked me out. I welcome all races like Jesus. [Ros]Kurt[X], Why do you use your Clan tags on here bro, lol. You don't want a peice of me in CS, Q3, DOOM3, EF and HL2. Link to post Share on other sites
HotCaliGirl Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Natural9 - I've dated mostly white women but then again they all asked me out. Natural9, why don't YOU ever ask white women out?? Link to post Share on other sites
Natural9 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Originally posted by HotCaliGirl Natural9, why don't YOU ever ask white women out?? Fear of rejection from the superior white race. For the most part I don't chase no matter how good any woman looks unless her name is Sarah Mclachlan, then I would ask for her hand in marriage. If I find a women that just knocks me off me feet repeatedly over a period of time then I'll make the first move but that has only happened twice in my life when I was younger. It just happened by chance that I get asked out by mostly white women. I've dated a girl with a red mohawk with her sides shaved to the skin to a preppy blond that was taller than me by 4 inches. I don't think about race until it gets brought up by friends and family or this sweet thread on the disadvantage of the asian male due to small penis size and negative media image painted by the 12 Jews that control hollywood. On a side note I also notice most american born asian women go after white men but I can care less, enjoy my white brethren and reap the rewards of the submissive delicate asian flower. Link to post Share on other sites
dedom Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Originally posted by monkey00 yes i agree it has some part to do with it. My bro's experience is that NYC caucasian ppl are friendlier than the ones upstate or another state. me and him grew up in nyc, he went to college upstate, 96% caucasian attend school there, now he works in delaware...jeez the only asian guy working in his company. he's a big socializer also, but he tells me it's tough to make friends down there. plus the fact that once you get out of school, it is pretty rough to make friends @ work. ...diffferent age groups, and many of them settled down and arent looking to make friends...or just see you have a different lifestyle compared to them... so i think the problem is that there are races that dont expose themselves enough to other races, which in part may make them not as open-minded to other possibilities of making friends/dating out of their own race. I am a Asian guy and have grown up in a Western Country and I personally believe that it is a matter of culture more than it is actually race. I feel that I am in the middle of the two cultures. I only have really come to realise this as I have gotten older that is that there is a major difference between the way Western women get their guys and the way Asian women get there guys. On the other side of the coin Asian guys do expect different things from their women than Western guys. I am originally from Vietnam and I will tell you some differences that I am aware of. Women do not sleep with guys until they are married. Respect comes before love. Partners are very loyal. There is no kissing public. These are generalisations BTW and there are exceptions. Some of the consequences of these beliefs are as follows: Because women don't sleep with guys until they are married the women tend not to use their sexuality to get there guy. If a woman is using her sexuality to get a guy it is consider low and women who do use their sexuality to gets guys are general hookers or are women who sleep around a lot. Guys in Vietnam are aware of women using their sexuality to get things out of them, like the hookers and gold diggers. If they aren't they are going to get screwed over and I mean royally screwed over. If you are a Western woman trying to get an Asian guy you will general use your sexuality to get the guy because most women in Western countries believe that all a guy is after is sex. If you use your feminity instead to get the guy which I believe is different from sexuality then he will respect you and not view you in a negative way. Respect is important in Vietnam. It is one of the most important virtues in Vietnam. Thus if a guy does not respect you he will not get involved with you because if he gets involved with a woman who is not respected people will not respect him. Thus if a woman behaves in such a way that people will not respect her then more than likely the Vietnamese guy will not get involved with her. Some examples of behaviour that does not endear respect from people. Wearing clothes that reveal too much. Talking to guys in a disrespectful manner. Flirting with a lot of different guys. There is a whole list of stuff. The other side of the coin is that the Vietnamese guy will respect women. Loyality is another big thing in Vietnamese culture. So women in Vietnam don't try to make their guys jealous and don't try to hook up with another guy while they are in a relationship and usually stick with the guy they have and generally will prefer to be alone and wait for the right guy. No kissing in public. If you kiss in public people are probably going to come up to you and yell at you. So if your a Western woman and trying to get your Asian guy to kiss you while your in a public place, forget about it. It just isn't going to happen. Generally you would have to have some sort of relationship forming before you can kiss a girl and it isn't going to be in public. As you can see there are a lot of cultural differences and I am just hitting the surface here. For me personally I have lived in a Western country most of my life but I still think like Vietnamese guy although on the surface it may not appear that way. When I went back to Vietnam I really saw the differences more clearly. A lot of Western girls do try to get my attention and sometimes they wonder why it not working. Well it's all of the reasons above and more. Really if I had to make one comment, Western women are much more wild than Asian women, hard to control and are not respectful of men. Getting involved with one is a big risk and a lot of trouble from the Asian cultural stand point. Don't get me wrong though there are lot of great Western women around. Link to post Share on other sites
Veritas709 Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Originally posted by dedom I am originally from Vietnam and I will tell you some differences that I am aware of. Women do not sleep with guys until they are married. Respect comes before love. Partners are very loyal. There is no kissing public. Dude, what generation are you from??? You said you lived here most of your life but the things you talked about are the stuff that my parents would talk about. The younger generation living in the U.S. is nothing like you described. I've seen Vietnamese girls as kinky and crazy as any other races. I'm talking about college educated girls not some high school drop outs either. They might look innocent but believe me, they're not! And women do not sleep with guys until they're married? Oh please, even my most conservative friends do that. Their parents don't think they do but oh yeah they do...and Vietnamese guys are just like any other guys, they like sex just the same. They might be more discreet about it and they like subtlety. I actually find that kind of annoying. Asian guys appear to want respect and stuff but once you get to know them, they're just as horny as any men. It's all on the surface and superficial. I personally think white women don't want to date Asian men because a lot of Asian men aren't as tall as them, and unfortunately they're also are stereotyped as kind of feminine by society. Link to post Share on other sites
murs Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Hey dude, have you ever been to Vietnam as an adult? Link to post Share on other sites
dedom Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Originally posted by Veritas709 Dude, what generation are you from??? You said you lived here most of your life but the things you talked about are the stuff that my parents would talk about. The younger generation living in the U.S. is nothing like you described. I've seen Vietnamese girls as kinky and crazy as any other races. I'm talking about college educated girls not some high school drop outs either. They might look innocent but believe me, they're not! And women do not sleep with guys until they're married? Oh please, even my most conservative friends do that. Their parents don't think they do but oh yeah they do...and Vietnamese guys are just like any other guys, they like sex just the same. They might be more discreet about it and they like subtlety. I actually find that kind of annoying. Asian guys appear to want respect and stuff but once you get to know them, they're just as horny as any men. It's all on the surface and superficial. I personally think white women don't want to date Asian men because a lot of Asian men aren't as tall as them, and unfortunately they're also are stereotyped as kind of feminine by society. Yeah, man true that the people who grow up in the west, who are asian, assimulate into society... Acutally I am a pretty wild guy... but the stuff I was talking about is the stuff that happens in Vietnam today... If you go there that's how it works there and when I was in my teens I had to work against my "natural instincts" at the time to behaviour like a western dude. Yes, I had to change alot of my believes and values but not everything changes.... some stuff is deep inside. When I went to Vietnam. I understood what was going on there without anyone having to explain it to me. But I do agree with you, sterotypes do affect the dating scene. But really I wrote that stuff to explain to people how different Asian people can be from Westerners. It needs to be said so people can understand the differences. Not all Asians assimulate into the country that they immigrate to. Some people assimulate a little and others assimulate completely. But if I explain both view points completely in all it's detail perhaps people can begin to understand the people who are in between. Link to post Share on other sites
chronic Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 I think this post is absolutely absurd. Of course there are women who like asian men. It's true that some women don't like asian men, that's life, however, on the flip side, some women just have never had any exposure to asian men so it's not unfair for them to have apprehensions. I would say interaccial dating in general is more common in cities. As for the disparity of out-dating between asian women/asian men I would say that it's a cultural issue. In western society guys who are sexually aggressive are seen as ladies men and studs while in the east sexually aggressive men are seen as perverts and womanizers hence the seemingly passive attempts of asian males (as some on this thread have suggested). What is seen as 'weak' in America may be seen as strength in Asia.........Just my thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites
o0O Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think it really depends on people, and it's really not necessary to date or marry someone interracially, fortune WILL decide it for you. Link to post Share on other sites
jen_jen_heartbroken Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Maybe this was already asked....this is a rather long thread..... but why does it seem that so many caucasian men hit on, date or marry asian women? This is just a trend I'm noticing....especially in the bars. Link to post Share on other sites
joel Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by jen_jen_heartbroken Maybe this was already asked....this is a rather long thread..... but why does it seem that so many caucasian men hit on, date or marry asian women? This is just a trend I'm noticing....especially in the bars. b/c the asian women got money i now tons of WM going after em for $$$$ Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by jen_jen_heartbroken Maybe this was already asked....this is a rather long thread..... but why does it seem that so many caucasian men hit on, date or marry asian women? This is just a trend I'm noticing....especially in the bars. Maybe cause asian females are percieved as being more "feminine". You know, sexier, more nurturing, more alluring, more passive, etc..... than western women. Link to post Share on other sites
SassyBug Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think Asian guys are hot too! I love the way they look. And it doesn't matter "the size" of your dick anyway, making love is making love. I have dated primarily black men, white men, latino and native american, never an Asian but I would be open to it. I agree though, there is always that societal thing about interracial dating. Where I live there are not many Asians so its kinda hard to know what their traditions are, etc. A friend of mine (caucasian) was crazy in love with her BF who was Thai. They were such a cute couple, they were both petite and about the same size. Love is love, it can happen between just about anybody. I agree, don't just go looking for someone of a specific race. Be open, cause you don't wanna miss out! You might even find an Asian girl who makes your heart go thump thump! The important thing is being a good man, and good things will come your way Link to post Share on other sites
SassyBug Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 re: Asian women I think the perception is that Asian women are more feminine and nurturing, etc because of their cultural background and also they are very exotic looking and beautiful I think any man is attracted to a soft, nurturing woman no matter what her race! Link to post Share on other sites
SassyBug Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 ok, last post, very hot pictures from China! it just goes to show everyone's gettin' their groove on nowadays thanks for sharing!!! Link to post Share on other sites
dedom Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I think this post is absolutely absurd. Of course there are women who like asian men. It's true that some women don't like asian men, that's life, however, on the flip side, some women just have never had any exposure to asian men so it's not unfair for them to have apprehensions. I would say interaccial dating in general is more common in cities. As for the disparity of out-dating between asian women/asian men I would say that it's a cultural issue. In western society guys who are sexually aggressive are seen as ladies men and studs while in the east sexually aggressive men are seen as perverts and womanizers hence the seemingly passive attempts of asian males (as some on this thread have suggested). What is seen as 'weak' in America may be seen as strength in Asia.........Just my thoughts. Yeah, sure man! It may be absurd to you, but hell, they eat cats and dogs over there. So some things are ok over there, but in the west it's absolutely crazy. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's weak. Asian people are almost half the worlds population. Link to post Share on other sites
Gold Pile Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 My biz puts me in contact with many asians. Like it or not, you guys have a reputation of being dinosaurs when it comes to women. American women are less open to being the oppressed wife/GF. I doubt the small penis issue has much to do with it. It's outweighed by the curosity factor (going Asian) Link to post Share on other sites
NuckingFuts Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 This is definitely an interesting thread. As far as Asian guys dating white girls is concerned, I'd like to add my 2 cents. I'm Chinese and have dated a bunch of white girls. I grew up in Vancouver, Canada which is a fairly liberal and progressive city with a sizable minority population. For all the Asian guys on this board, this is what I've found works in terms of building confidence/self esteem and dating white women. (DISCLAIMER: This is based entirely on my own experiences. This is not based on any scientific studies or surveys) 1. Work out. As a general rule, white women do not like dating short skinny guys. Since you have no control over your height, I suggest working on your body. Join a gym and work out 3-4 times per week. Focus on compound exercises like chin ups, bench press, squats, deadlifts and military press. Leave exercises like concentration curls to the ladies. 2. Dress well and find your own personal style. And I don't mean showing up in a Zegna suit on your first date (unless you plan on taking her to the opera). My favorite casual clothing brands include Banana Republic, Kenneth Cole, Fred Perry, Puma, Zoo York, Triple 5 Soul and for basics, the Gap. Most importantly, you have to find stuff that fits well and compliments your build. I don't care how expensive your shirt and jeans are, you'll look terrible if they don't fit right. 3. Be chivalrous. Open doors for women. Pull out her chair for her. Don't start eating at restaurants until her food has arrived. 4. Have your own life. Women do not want a guy whose only goal in life is to please her. Take up boxing, hockey, basketball, anything. Just have your own life. However, this doesn't include computer programming or videogaming. Put down the videogame controller and get some fresh air. 5. Have a backbone and respect yourself. No one likes a spineless jellyfish (and I'm not talking about sushi). Have your own opinions and thoughts and don't be afraid to express them. 6. Try and have a decent career. From my experiences, the only Asian guys who ever get white women are a) doctors, engineers, lawyers, professionals; b) in school studying to be doctors, engineers, lawyers, professionals; c) musicians or artists; or d) drug dealers/gangsters. Most white women will not date Asian slackers. They will date white slackers, but not Asian ones. This isn't a knock on white slackers. Hey, if you can sit on the couch drinking Coors Light and watching tv for 12 hours a day AND pick up women, more power to you. 7. Be aware and informed of world events. This will make you a more knowlegeable and interesting person. Put down the copy of Electronic Gaming Monthly and pick up a copy of the Globe and Mail (if you live in Canada) or the Wall Street Journal (if you live anywhere in the civilized world). 8. Don't put women on a pedestal. Women are just as flawed as the rest of us. They burp, belch and fart just like everyone else. This may sound counterintuitive, but the sooner you realize this, the sooner you'll be dating that hot girl you thought you could never get. Treating a woman as a unique individual, flaws and all, is probably the highest compliment you can give her. 9. Focus on your personal hygiene. This really should go without saying: pay a little more for your haircut, shave, trim your nose hairs, cut your nails, brush your teeth. 10. Be proud of your heritage. No one likes people who are ashamed of their culture. Of course, don't confuse pride with stupidity. Being proud of your heritage doesn't mean force feeding your cultural views down someone's throat. It means that you shouldn't be ashamed just because you're different from the majority. And those are some of my secrets....now go forth and procreate..... Link to post Share on other sites
How_Do_I_Know Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Ok... so this is kinda steming from the "asian men" thread but about asian women. It is a question about stereotyping. We all know that there is a sterotype on asian women. Whatever you heard is up to you but I was just wondering if it's true that many men, no matter what race, like asian women? Be it for the "exotic" look or the other thing that I'd rather not say....... ok then.... the thing down there being slanted also and nicely tawt...... ? I myself am HALF asian and HALF Caucasian (my dad loves asian women, he and my mother have been married 30 years and he can't get enough of her). See I live in a small suburb of Minneapolis that doesn't have very many races other than white folks. So at my job I get hit on quite often by white men. A majority of them have told me that they have always dreamed and fantasized about being with asian women, and they also bring up the stuff on the 'private' regions. When I go out at times to the club or wherever I am going with the girls, I even get lots of attention from African Americans saying the exact same thing. The only ones that I haven't really been hit on by much would be Asians oddly enough and Hispanics. And my previous b/f's and husband, who were black and white loved watching asian porn and just told me the same as above. So, I would like to hear honest opinions on THIS stereotype. Why do Asian men feel that they 'aren't' attractive, but asian women are sought out for? (If this in fact true) Also, there is another myth that Asian woman have very bad and aggressive attitudes. Link to post Share on other sites
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