Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 that's a break up e-mail? come on girl - get over yourself and be PERFECTLY CLEAR with him one way or another! and then stick to it... that email is NOT a break up email... it's full of ambiguity and begs for him to bend in your favor to make it work. talk about manipulation! you are being selfish and self centered in your approach with him - he deserves better. refer back to my post from 9:17am (12:17 your time). i notice you have just avoided THAT post and continued on with your little diary entries... "Selfish and self centered?" What if I suffered from vaginal dryness and refused to use a lubricant? Let's all feel sorry for a man. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "Selfish and self centered?" What if I suffered from vaginal dryness and refused to use a lubricant? Let's all feel sorry for a man. if you are intending to break up- then just break up... no need to USE him further for a free lunch, eh? unless you are absolutely paying and you take that opportunity to tell him no more until you figure out how to be a healthy gal. but i know your type and you will go - and he will pay to be graced by your mere presence... and yes, that is selfish. all the little games you barrage him with daily is a cover for your fear. what you are afraid of is what needs to be uncovered and dealt with before you can even think of moving forward with him... so, yes - my advice is break up (to be fair - that means no lunch) - work on yourself, then figure out if a healthy relationship with him is even possible. Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 He's not a creep or controlling. He's a Lawyer for God sakes. Sorry for the undoubtdedly unrelated post, but I'm just getting caught up on this thread and this cracked me up. What, are DC lawyers known for their respectful, morally strong values? Back to this captivating read. How did I miss this thread??? Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 I did let Darren buy me lunch. I didn’t order a bunch of stuff. We just went across the street to Sbarro's Pizza because I can't be at lunch here after 2pm. We had a serious talk and neither one of us felt like eating. I took one bite he took none. I was sticking to my guns and then Darren started rubbing his eyes and it looked like he was about to cry. Not to be cynical, but it looked to me like he was digging his knuckle into his eye and that when they started watering. I could be wrong, but Darren is a trickster as you can see from that false allegation of molestation earlier. Anyway, he told me that he was angry at himself that he was sitting there begging me and angry at me for making him do it, but he was glad to see that "in crisis situation" he could put his pride aside and do what he had to do. I wanted to say, "Then why haven’t you put your pride aside and gotten that medicine for your ED? It was great how he stopped to pat himself on the back during our talk. BUT anyway, we decided that he will show me not just a prescription, but a prescription bottle of pills not later than the 16th. We are going to go to Luray this weekend, but he is picking me up from my house tomorrow. No pills - No sleepovers. It will be a day trip. I have to say that I do feel relieved. I didn't want to have to break up with him or even not see him all weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
All Star Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 OH THANK GOD!!!! Don't scare me like that again. I want you to get off Darrens as$ because he's not really bothering you. Trust me, he could be doing a whole lot of other things. E.D. is the least of the problems you could have. That was sick how he lied and said he was molested though. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 1. I did let Darren buy me lunch. 2. I didn’t order a bunch of stuff. 3. Anyway, he told me that he was angry at himself that he was sitting there begging me and angry at me for making him do it, but he was glad to see that "in crisis situation" he could put his pride aside and do what he had to do. 4. I wanted to say, "Then why haven’t you put your pride aside and gotten that medicine for your ED? 5. It was great how he stopped to pat himself on the back during our talk. 6. BUT anyway, we decided that he will show me not just a prescription, but a prescription bottle of pills not later than the 16th. 7. We are going to go to Luray this weekend, but he is picking me up from my house tomorrow. No pills - No sleepovers. It will be a day trip. I have to say that I do feel relieved. I didn't want to have to break up with him or even not see him all weekend. 1. of course you did- you are selfish 2. only because i pointed out how much more selfish that would make you look 3. a vulnerable man - being honest and up front 4. you never really say what you want to say - you just play games with the truth so he has to guess what the truth may be - then THAT gives you a good enough reason to be mad and mean spirited with him 5. can't blame a man for recognizing that he has been vulnerable with you and wants to commend himself. rare for a man to even be vulnerable these days 6. WE? YOU decided that these are YOUR selfish requirements and YOU expect him to abide by your rules or you'll make him MORE miserable with your manipulations and game playing 7. of course you are relieved - you get your way again... and more time to control, manipulate and make him miserable. again - selfish, it's all about what YOU want. ever stop to consider him and how HE feels about any of this? nope... go back to my post from 9:17am... you have a lot of work to do on yourself... in order to offer a man a healthy relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 2Sunny - Did it bother you when Darren admitted that he had lied about being molested? I'm just curious. You must have read that part. Why are you sympathizing with a sicko? I'm sympathizing with him because I love him, but what's wrong with you? Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 2Sunny - Did it bother you when Darren admitted that he had lied about being molested? I'm just curious. You must have read that part. Why are you sympathizing with a sicko? I'm sympathizing with him because I love him, but what's wrong with you? yes that part bothered me... but your manipulation must have played a role in him being pushed to have an excuse to his preference "not to want to lick your cootch" i'm not sympathizing with him one bit - i'm looking at it from an unbiased standpoint and i'm not liking what actions you are taking in this relationship. he's not here to ask for advice - so it is you whom i am speaking. i'm sorry if you don't like it - but i am a "call a spade a spade" kind of gal. it's only designed for you to see the truth of your part in this dating scenario - and try to change it for a more positive outcome. there is nothing wrong with me... i have simply pointed out that your actions are fear based and you don't seem to want to acknowledge that or address it whatsoever. this is the ONLY way you will make good progress... i know it is hard to face the truth of ourselves and our weak areas - but it is very healthy to be honest with what the root of the problem may be. you will grow immensely if you can possibly do this. you can start by writing a list of 50 things that you are afraid of... it may give you insight - and a good place to start. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 not to get off track but your selfishness shows also in the fact that you have only limited your posts since arriving to this site to yourself. this is normally a very giving and caring environment here. you have taken advice - but not extended a hand to help anyone else... see, so i am noticing this and am figuring that this is your way of life... get out of yourself and consider his feelings as well. if you quit the game playing with this guy - you may actually have the ability to see the REAL him. not just the one that has to react to all the drama you lay on him every day... Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 yes that part bothered me... but your manipulation must have played a role in him being pushed to have an excuse to his preference "not to want to lick your cootch" i'm not sympathizing with him one bit - i'm looking at it from an unbiased standpoint and i'm not liking what actions you are taking in this relationship. he's not here to ask for advice - so it is you whom i am speaking. i'm sorry if you don't like it - but i am a "call a spade a spade" kind of gal. it's only designed for you to see the truth of your part in this dating scenario - and try to change it for a more positive outcome. there is nothing wrong with me... i have simply pointed out that your actions are fear based and you don't seem to want to acknowledge that or address it whatsoever. this is the ONLY way you will make good progress... i know it is hard to face the truth of ourselves and our weak areas - but it is very healthy to be honest with what the root of the problem may be. you will grow immensely if you can possibly do this. you can start by writing a list of 50 things that you are afraid of... it may give you insight - and a good place to start. Did you see the part where he said he's full of shi_t? I can see that you are the kind of gal who is easily swayed by munipulative emotional behavior from a man. I try not to be. Maybe, the thing that is wrong with me is that I can't really feel sorry for a man. Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 1. of course you did- you are selfish 4. you never really say what you want to say - you just play games with the truth so he has to guess what the truth may be - then THAT gives you a good enough reason to be mad and mean spirited with him We're never mean spirited or mad when were face to face. Even when HE appears to be. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Did you see the part where he said he's full of shi_t? I can see that you are the kind of gal who is easily swayed by munipulative emotional behavior from a man. I try not to be. Maybe, the thing that is wrong with me is that I can't really feel sorry for a man. you are making assumptions that are way off base. that happens when we want the attention on someone else instead of our own issues. nice try though...as for a moment i'm sure it did distract someone from realizing that you are still avoiding the crux of the problem. do you always have such a hard time acknowledging and dealing with your weaknesses and trying to move past them? Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 We're never mean spirited or mad when were face to face. Even when HE appears to be. exactly! passive aggressive when you come here and bash him behind his back instead of facing the truth of the matter in front of him and working on it together. Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 1. of course you did- you are selfish 7. of course you are relieved - you get your way again... and more time to control, manipulate and make him miserable. again - selfish, it's all about what YOU want. ever stop to consider him and how HE feels about any of this? nope... If I didn't care how he felt, I would not have gone downstairs. I could have gotten lunch myself if I wanted. If I wanted to get rid of Darren, it would be beyond his control. He gets his way everyday mainly, because I like letting him get his way. 2sunny, you didn't see that fool ask me to clean out his basement and I did it. You don't see me go to his house and do all of his housework either. I do. He's found a real fool in me. That's why he can't let me get away! That's why he was about to cry. He doesn't want to have to clean his own house. Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Did you see the part where he said he's full of shi_t? I can see that you are the kind of gal who is easily swayed by munipulative emotional behavior from a man. I try not to be. Maybe, the thing that is wrong with me is that I can't really feel sorry for a man. Hhahaha sorry but this takes the cake DCgirl. Your whole relationship with this man is based on mutual manipulative emotional behavior... You do realize this don't you? I'm not dissing it. It seems to work for the two of you. It's not what I would wish for myself or any of my friends but you seem happy with it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hhahaha sorry but this takes the cake DCgirl. Your whole relationship with this man is based on mutual manipulative emotional behavior... You do realize this don't you? I'm not dissing it. It seems to work for the two of you. It's not what I would wish for myself or any of my friends but you seem happy with it. Forgive me, I don't. Had Darren gotten help for his ED (like any reasonable man) we wouldn't even be talking here. How is this my fault? Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 If I didn't care how he felt, I would not have gone downstairs. I could have gotten lunch myself if I wanted. If I wanted to get rid of Darren, it would be beyond his control. He gets his way everyday mainly, because I like letting him get his way. 2sunny, you didn't see that fool ask me to clean out his basement and I did it. You don't see me go to his house and do all of his housework either. I do. He's found a real fool in me. That's why he can't let me get away! That's why he was about to cry. He doesn't want to have to clean his own house. ok honey - whatever you say! the only one who can change in this relationship is YOU. THAT is all you can expect. so, what are you willing to do to change - for it to be better? ps... don't think i don't see you skirting all the hard questions and issues here... i'm just hoping to give you enough food for thought - even if you need to come back six months from now and read it as a reminder... or whenever it happens to be that you are ready to face the truth of the problem. i think i've tried enough to help you consider a few things to work on - but i am wasting my energy at this point - so i will say - good luck for now. happy weekend! Link to post Share on other sites
You'reasian Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 2Sunny - Did it bother you when Darren admitted that he had lied about being molested? I'm just curious. You must have read that part. Why are you sympathizing with a sicko? I'm sympathizing with him because I love him, but what's wrong with you? I think you're trying to stir sh*t up. You aren't sympathizing or loving him by using his name and his dysfunction online, especially someone who works as a professional (lawyer) in DC. Personally, I think you made up the story about him being molested to spread more sh*t about him. Lastly, you're probably not even in DC. Link to post Share on other sites
All Star Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I would suggest that BOTH Darren and DCGirl and Master Munipulators OF EACHOTHER. Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 I think you're trying to stir sh*t up. You aren't sympathizing or loving him by using his name and his dysfunction online, especially someone who works as a professional (lawyer) in DC. Personally, I think you made up the story about him being molested to spread more sh*t about him. Lastly, you're probably not even in DC. I'm sorry as a former investigator I can tell you that you have NOTHING you would need to uncover who this man is. And HE made up the story about him being molested notme. Darren is just as common a name as Aaron. Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Forgive me, I don't. Had Darren gotten help for his ED (like any reasonable man) we wouldn't even be talking here. How is this my fault? The very first instance of manipulation occured around the time you were planning the first trip to Lurray. He was trying to manipulate you into sleeping with him. You lied. You apologized. He threatened to withdraw (busy with work). You decided you were going to use sex to get him back. Emotional manipulation. Link to post Share on other sites
All Star Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 OR was that was sexual munipulation? LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 OR was that was sexual munipulation? LOL. LOL - that's one of the enticing things about this thread: the lines are all blurred between sex and emotions. I would venture to say though that dcgirl is using sex to meet her emotional needs, ie, her desire to have this man commit to her. Link to post Share on other sites
All Star Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 LOL - that's one of the enticing things about this thread: the lines are all blurred between sex and emotions. I would venture to say though that dcgirl is using sex to meet her emotional needs, ie, her desire to have this man commit to her. No, she trying to use sex by hios ED is getting in the way of that. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Author dcgirl33 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'm going to see if I can quickly see call you 2 some Dumb Broads before the host deletes it and sends me a warning. Link to post Share on other sites
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