He is going to Vegas this weekend!!!!

[Krajt]

Then you're a hypocrite for watching them strip.

 

I don't. No strippers, no strip clubs, no broken marriages, so actually women are to blame for all the cheating that goes on in strip clubs. I cracked it, society's woes are women's fault. Haven't you watched Forrest Gump?

[Krajt]

And it speaks volumes for the men who watch them.

 

BTW, nobody loses here. We all win.

 

Personally, I do not believe they are scum. They have made a choice to capitalize on their assets. I look down more on the MM that go and see them.

 

That's nice for you.

[Krajt]

Completely agree! And what makes more sense? Throwing your money at someone, or being the one collecting it?

 

Earning money in a office or earning money as a stripper? No, the office job is least embarrassing. The fact remains that men wouldn't go to these places if women refused to work in them. It's not like anyone is that desperate for money and if they are then they should have done better at school.

[JamesM]

Earning money in a office or earning money as a stripper? No, the office job is least embarrassing. The fact remains that men wouldn't go to these places if women refused to work in them. It's not like anyone is that desperate for money and if they are then they should have done better at school.

 

Sorry...your logic failed. If women did not work in strip clubs, they would not exist. Hence, no one COULD go to them.

 

As for money, the reason women work at stripping is because of the high amount of money that men give them. A non-college grad can make about 20 - 30k at an office job. She can easily make 75K as a stripper. It is all about the money.

 

But remember, the market is driven by demand. And men demand to see women taking their clothes off. If men did not go, then the business would fail. Strip clubs are not going to close if they can make money.

[Krajt]

Sorry...your logic failed. If women did not work in strip clubs, they would not exist. Hence, no one COULD go to them.

 

As for money, the reason women work at stripping is because of the high amount of money that men give them. A non-college grad can make about 20 - 30k at an office job. She can easily make 75K as a stripper. It is all about the money.

 

But remember, the market is driven by demand. And men demand to see women taking their clothes off. If men did not go, then the business would fail. Strip clubs are not going to close if they can make money.

 

Evidently! That's generally how economics works, though being an American and judging by the state of your economy, it might be wise if every American was as clued up on economics as you are, James!

[porter218]

Earning money in a office or earning money as a stripper? No, the office job is least embarrassing. The fact remains that men wouldn't go to these places if women refused to work in them. It's not like anyone is that desperate for money and if they are then they should have done better at school.

A lot of these women who work at strip clubs have small children at home with no daycare until their friends and family are back from work in the evening. Or they are at school during the morning when these office jobs are taking place and need an evening job that pays big money to work only a few nights a week so they can feed their kids and still go to college. Strippers who are stripping their way through college are so common that the club I worked at offered a savings program for college where the club would pay half the tuition. Plus you are comparing low wage jobs with the 75k + job of a stripper. They really aren't the monsters you think they are.

[IrishCarBomb]

If this party was at a regular bar without strippers, then this thread would never have been written....

 

He never said he was going to a strip club. It was all assumed by the original poster. The thread went awry because somebody said "strip club" and everyone went crazy.

 

I have asked him several times "what he will be doing." He has told me over and over "I am just going to gamble." Okay, meaning strip clubs. He said he is staying at this hotel with mirrors on the walls and ceilings. Like I have said before, his freinds are extremely immature and behave like they are still in high school. All these crazy images are running through my mind.

[JamesM]

Irish, you are correct. My mistake. I made the assumption based on later posts.

[Lishy]

Awww would people leave it alone, the girl is insecure and a few of you are not helping one iota!

[Jersey Shortie]

She should be insecure. her boyfriend is going to see strippers in Vegas.

 

 

I still don't agree that watching strippers is as bad as stripping. Strippers are scum and the fact they do it speaks volumes for their morals or lack of as the case maybe.

 

Strippers are scum because they dance naked infront of men? Wow.

 

Man, you can't win with women....

 

I think that is exactly how women can feel as well. I don't think women consider them to be *winning* with their guy when he is going to watch strippers.

[Krajt]

I was looking for a reaction, Jersey! Thanks for that, it's ashame you are several hours too late.

[Krytie TV]

You always need to give your SO an opportunity to fail. Why spend a lifetime with someone you don't trust when you can have them pass/fail their tests nice and early? If he's gonna falter, you need to let it happen so you know exactly who you're with. It is far too tiring to try to close someone off from failure for an entire lifetime. Let it happen and let the cards fall where they may.

[soulseeker]

You have to decide what compromises you are willing to make in this relationship. Your bf has to make that decision as well. I used to try to cajole my partners into making the decisions I wanted them to make. I didn't realize, until much later, the value of observing the decisions a person makes on their own.

[StartingOver07]

Yeah, that's true. We aren't married though?

 

But yeah you are right, these are everyday issues and posters tend to catastrophise them into something they aren't.

 

Well, it's marriage and life partnerships, so I guess I see your situation as closer to that than most of what gets posted here, which leans toward "does s/he like me" or "is this a bad sign" type of thing.

 

Maybe LS needs an "established relationships" category!

 

I have not read all the posts in between my last one and this but something did jump out at me (as it did in a previous thread, although I didn't comment then). The thing where your BF has to take a shower immediately after sex is a off-putting to me. I think this is a bigger issue than what he's going to be doing (or not doing) in Vegas.

[JamesM]

So, LB, this whole thread has been about what may happen, rather than what is scheduled to happen?

 

Your fears are that he will be invited to a strip club? But there is no stripper party planned?

 

I am thinking that what was said earlier is a bit true. If we all worried about what could happen (and I am guilty of this too at times), then we would all go crazy. The ironic thing is that very few things we worry about actually happen.

 

Relax and see how it goes. I am guessing that by Tuesday you will have a better opinion of your BF.

[Jersey Shortie]

I was looking for a reaction, Jersey!

 

 

 

Keep tellling yourself that one Darling.

[Lauriebell82]

Well, it's marriage and life partnerships, so I guess I see your situation as closer to that than most of what gets posted here, which leans toward "does s/he like me" or "is this a bad sign" type of thing.

 

Maybe LS needs an "established relationships" category!

 

I have not read all the posts in between my last one and this but something did jump out at me (as it did in a previous thread, although I didn't comment then). The thing where your BF has to take a shower immediately after sex is a off-putting to me. I think this is a bigger issue than what he's going to be doing (or not doing) in Vegas.

 

Yeah, there should be a serious relationship section!!!

 

We actually talked about the shower thing, and he said the reason he does it is because he is a neat freak and he feels nasty afterwards. We did make a deal that he would just take a quit "rinse off" shower and then come back and snuggle with me in bed. So we did that, and it was wonderful!!! (gave me time to do what I needed to do to clean up as well).

 

It's not a huge problem (the shower thing) but I really think he has some form of OCD. He gets anxious whenever things are messy as well. But on the flip side, it keeps me on my toes with cleaning because I'm not a particularly "neat and tidy" person.

[Lauriebell82]

So, LB, this whole thread has been about what may happen, rather than what is scheduled to happen?

 

Your fears are that he will be invited to a strip club? But there is no stripper party planned?

 

I am thinking that what was said earlier is a bit true. If we all worried about what could happen (and I am guilty of this too at times), then we would all go crazy. The ironic thing is that very few things we worry about actually happen.

 

Relax and see how it goes. I am guessing that by Tuesday you will have a better opinion of your BF.

 

He told me they might hit up a strip club. Most likely they will since it's his friend's bachelor party. My BF said that he will miss me like crazy, and he's not going to be spending 4 days in a strip club. He said they want to do other things like gamble and go see shows. So I believe him, and I'm looking forward to the plans I have for the weekend as well.

[Jersey Shortie]

Yay for boyfriends going to strip clubs in Vegas! Men are swell.

[Treasa]

It's just my observation, but I've never seen a brooding, insecure, catty, cynical woman end up with a good quality man. Not for very long, anyway.

 

Laurie, he's going to have a good time, as are you, and he'll miss you like crazy. Especially if you don't call him. Just have fun and don't worry, ok?

[Krajt]

Keep tellling yourself that one Darling.

 

Oh fine, party pooper, I was embarrassed because my point was completely dismantled faster than George W. Bush's Presidency ratings.

[Lauriebell82]

So he is leaving for Vegas tonight. I have a fun girl's night planned though, and I am soooooo excited!!! Now that I live with a guy, I don't get to have as much girl time anymore.

 

We actually had a nice talk last night. He is really excited, but he does say that he will miss me a lot. This thread was interesting, I must say, but I really don't think I have anything to worry about. I'm letting my insecurity get the best of me.

 

So anyone know how to get rid of insecurity? It sucks!!!!

[Lishy]

It is all about changing the way you think LB

 

My mum has a very true saying, only worry about things you can do something about!

 

There is no point worrying he may cheat, worrying wont stop it happening only HE can stop that happeneing and you have no control over him.

 

Dont worry about getting a proposal, worrying wont make it happen will it? If anything it will put him off more!

 

You can put this in place with most things. You are who you are and he is with you for YOU not for who he thinks you can be.

 

And lastly, stop placing your happiness on HIS shoulders! That is a big cross to bear for him LB and will jut destroy what you have.

 

IMO you are a quite needy person who worries contantly about things you cannot change. You really need to live your life and do things when YOU want to and not because he is off doing what he wants to. Get out with friends and family more and I promise his attraction to you will rise considerably.

 

You are a good girl LB, but your insecurity and neediness is off putting, the good news is that YOU can do something about this!

 

You need to learn to love yourself for just who you are!

[Ocean-Blue]

It is all about changing the way you think LB

 

My mum has a very true saying, only worry about things you can do something about!

 

There is no point worrying he may cheat, worrying wont stop it happening only HE can stop that happeneing and you have no control over him.

 

Dont worry about getting a proposal, worrying wont make it happen will it? If anything it will put him off more!

 

You can put this in place with most things. You are who you are and he is with you for YOU not for who he thinks you can be.

 

And lastly, stop placing your happiness on HIS shoulders! That is a big cross to bear for him LB and will jut destroy what you have.

 

IMO you are a quite needy person who worries contantly about things you cannot change. You really need to live your life and do things when YOU want to and not because he is off doing what he wants to. Get out with friends and family more and I promise his attraction to you will rise considerably.

 

You are a good girl LB, but your insecurity and neediness is off putting, the good news is that YOU can do something about this!

 

You need to learn to love yourself for just who you are!

 

Lishy, this is some solid advice.

 

I think it applies to a lot of us. This insecurity can really eat away at the relationship.

 

Thanks again!

[Lishy]

We are all insecure over certain things OB. I know I have been terribly insecure over dudes in the past and I learned that if you cannot control it you have to fake it until you make it!

 

LB, you need to be the girl he WANTS to marry (and not just because you want him to) and the girl he would NEVER cheat on and the way to do that is to live your own life and be independant and confidant.

 

I know I am much older than you and at your age maybe I would have felt the same, I dont know - But what I do know is that the more you weigh down on his shoulders, the more likely he will be to fall!