johan Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I think that you shouldn't overlook the fact that while certain parts of the Bible predict this, there are many, many, many parts of the Bible that do not. They don't even mention it. Which is right? Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 My Faith, or the Gospel I adhere to, has warned us Christians that it would come to this point, (and BEYOND) and I have mixed emotions about it. On one point, it strengthens my Faith knowing that Scriptures don't lie, and that they do accurately predict the future. On the other hand, I find it very hard to watch unfold, to see other souls, lost and found taking part in this downfall either voluntarily, or even without knowledge of it. I went to CNN this morning to read today's news and came across this: http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/10/09/tf.friends.with.benefits/index.html Giving women, (married or not, doesn't really specify) tips on how to have a, "proper" FWB relationship... So....what say other believers? Are you like me and have mixed emotions about it, or are you on one side of the fence or the other? I am a bit sad to see a nation that was built on Biblical principles slowly sway from God. Many and many became no-backbone for God, because of political correctness I see the sexual promiscuity as a sign of people's desperation. Because they don't know or exclude God out of their lives, the sex, the drugs, the alcohol can instantly and temporarily satisfy them AND drag them deeper into depression. and they only can escalate the degrees of substance abuse. And many women, if they know God loves them, and look at them as His children, redeem them as the most precious things in the world, will they still devaluate themselves by cheaping themselves in order to get "love" from men who don't really know how to love them? Ultimately people only can satisfy their souls first to placate the hunger, and none can do this except of God Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I don't see any real evidence that sexual promiscuity is rising or falling. One CNN article proves bugger all. It's hard to collect stats on this sort of thing with any accuracy, but people do tend to fall for this naive idea that sexuality is a new(ish) thing and that prior to the 1950s everybody did it begrudgingly and in as perfunctory a manner as possible. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 On one point, it strengthens my Faith knowing that Scriptures don't lie, and that they do accurately predict the future. Well, amidst practical advice on how much to pay your neighbor if his donkey falls in that hole you didn't cover up, and how you can and cannot beat your slaves, I wish the scriptures had something accurate to say about the wisdom of colliding proton beam packets at 7 TeV energies, and whether micro-black holes are likely to form and consume all life as we know it. Now wouldn't that be a handy thing to have in there somewhere among all those other accurate predictions? Seriously, given the available past history, and a bit of observational wisdom about human nature, is it a mystifyingly accurate prediction, is it really a stretch, to have taken a shot with: "society will become morally promiscuous at some point..." As someone else pointed out, virtually everyone throughout history has probably thought "Oh my gosh, it's talking about us..." It's the same every time you predict apocalypse. You're either proven wrong or dead. I have a prediction: each time an apocalypse is predicted and the time comes to pass without the end of days arriving and fire raining down from the sky, etc., etc., the predictor will NOT admit the possibility of a mistake, but will either slink away, never to be heard from again, or more boldly, will declare the non-event to be a repreive granted by a merciful god in recognition of the depth of belief by those few faithful who gathered in the cave at the appointed time. They can emerge into the light the next morning, soothed by the knowledge that they saved the rest of the world and all its unwashed and unfaithful by the sheer power of their belief. Lather, rinse, repeat. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'm not sure I saw prophecy so much as social decline: I saw evidence of men knowing that they don't have to be married in order to get what they want anymore, and women being encouraged to find a way to try to box themselves into that. I don't know that it is a decline of morals so much as it is a decline of marriage in general. With divorce rates/alimony/child support what they are, I see a lot of my single guy friends seeing marriage as the 'anti lottery'. By getting married you have very high odds of losing half your stuff and paying out the nose for it for the rest of your lives. Fewer and fewer men are willing to do that these days. That is why you see more sex with less strings: because of fear of the outcome, more or less. I know guys in their twenties getting vasectomies and pledging never to get married. Monogamous, yes. Legally married... no. You can walk away from monogamy. Not so much from a divorce. So what are women to do? If they want relationships these days, they either have to accept the growing trend of FWB, or risk never having a relationship at all. If a woman refuses sex until marriage, more men are willing to walk away from that than in generations before. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 So what are women to do? If they want relationships these days, they either have to accept the growing trend of FWB, or risk never having a relationship at all. If a woman refuses sex until marriage, more men are willing to walk away from that than in generations before. It's not that bad. Women have to believe they're worth it, instead of bowing down to pressure. It's a gamble that women like myself are willing to take. If he walks, he walks. Life goes on, plenty of fish in the ocean, et al. Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 It's not that bad. Women have to believe they're worth it, instead of bowing down to pressure. It's a gamble that women like myself are willing to take. If he walks, he walks. Life goes on, plenty of fish in the ocean, et al. Agreed ! In this case, Don't have a man is much better than bowing down to pressure. when a woman thinks she has to have sex even without commitment, then she devalues herself, although she doesn't admit, but deep down in her heart, psychologically demage her self-esteem. If all women refuse to have sex with men before marriage, guess what happen? men cannot expect sex without commitment. Women need to spine up. You have much value than a FWB. Link to post Share on other sites
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