Rooster_DAR Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Not even that- it's not even the controlling factor about men- it's that they don't ever want to get married. I have left 3 relationships now that were long-term and i wanted marriage out of it and they didn't. It is impossible to find marriage-minded-men! Wow, that sucks. Perhaps the pond your fishing in is contaminated. Seriously though, there are plenty of men who would be willing to marry the right partner, just don't give up. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Not even that- it's not even the controlling factor about men- it's that they don't ever want to get married. I have left 3 relationships now that were long-term and i wanted marriage out of it and they didn't. It is impossible to find marriage-minded-men! Because when a man does let his guard down and marries a woman she will eventually crush his heart. It happens time and time again. Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Sometimes porn is better than a real woman and it is far less risky. Build robot women and there would be no use for humen women at all. you're right woggle. only then there would be no procreation and the human race would be no more...and there would be no one living to keep making these robot women...duhhh... Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Mine whines when I force him to have sex with me!! :lmao: NOOOOOOOOOO don't suck it....... why do you have to do that..... noooooooooooooo...... It's not fairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ nooooooooo. W does need to stop nagging..... women yammmer yammmer yammmer.... women blah blah blah ...... funny A4A...and so true about woggle. yes men do nag as well. in my experience, they whine for a bit then when they see me not feeding into it, they start playing "mind" games. i don't give that too much attention either because i don't want them to think that either kind of manipulation will be tolerated...it's like they're kids... woggle is such a nay sayer. and for no reason i feel. Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Because when a man does let his guard down and marries a woman she will eventually crush his heart. It happens time and time again. woggle...ahhh, you've just touched on a good topic.and i was just about to shut you down! but what you mentioned here happens with both men AND women. you know very well that men will flip the script in a HEARTBEAT! so stop trying to play the victim. the games men play has almost changed the game universally for all women. so many of us women don't even know how to sit back, be graceful and allow you all to be "manly" because so many men act like boys...causing us to grow very impatient and protect our hearts b4 our hearts get trampled over. ponder that woggle... Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster_DAR Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I still have to agree with Woggle here, I've been crushed by all three of my life loves. I've just concluded that love does not last forever, so if your willing to indulge you have to pay the price in the end. Waaa, Waaaahh, Waaaaaah Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I might sound liek a naysayer but I am only realist. I see what I see around me and it tells me that for the most part it is not worth it for a man to commit to a woman and that most women are not capable of true love and commitment. The funny thing is that I am happily married but I know that what I have is like hitting the mega millions lottery and is not the case in most marriages. Link to post Share on other sites
lovestruck818 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Because when a man does let his guard down and marries a woman she will eventually crush his heart. It happens time and time again. Not me- not all of us are bad! Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster_DAR Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I think he is speaking in general, the odds seem very low finding a woman who can truly love a man and commit to him forever (and vice versa). I only know two couples that are that way, they will never leave each others side. I envy them so much. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 I might sound liek a naysayer but I am only realist. I see what I see around me and it tells me that for the most part it is not worth it for a man to commit to a woman and that most women are not capable of true love and commitment. The funny thing is that I am happily married but I know that what I have is like hitting the mega millions lottery and is not the case in most marriages. very interesting woggle. i saw your pic on your profile and assumed you were involved, married, etc. but wasn't sure by the way you've been talking in here. how did you and wifey meet? how long have you been married? i am truly happy for you. personally, i don't think i will find that special someone any time soon. simply b/c i seem to attract men like my father (a whole different topic i guess), who never showed a good example. so think about these type of things when you hear a woman mention things like she may never meat her match or fear of connecting and messing up, etc. so far, i've had no long-term luck and this is why i say that perhaps i may be one of the women who end up never marrying. not because i don't want to, but perhaps because there is something that i don't know about men or something that is coming out of me that is blocking me from truly opening up and cleaving with a man. "they" say i come off cold/callous/cavalier, etc. i don't want to be that way, but i have never witnesses my parents or grandparents be loving toward each other. just a fact. however, i am in the process of working on it b/c i do not want divorce if i marry and i DO NOT want to break any man's heart. i know hurt all too well and even though things happend sometime, i don't LIKE hurting men. YEs i've broken a heart of 2, but never intentionally and mine has been broken as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 I think he is speaking in general, the odds seem very low finding a woman who can truly love a man and commit to him forever (and vice versa). I only know two couples that are that way, they will never leave each others side. I envy them so much. Cheers! rooster, when you say its rare to to find a woman who will commit to her man forever, are you figuring in all the b.s. most men put out? do you think women should stay committed to you when you cheat, don't provide as you should, are neglectful, etc...? be honest. at a certain point, a woman will get fed up and walk away without notice. a woman scorned is something to reckon with...fa sho! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I met her just walking on the boardwalk by where I live and she truly is a rare gem that any man would be lucky to have. On the other hand I see what my friends go through and what I see on this board and society in general and I think that men should never trust a woman until she proves herself. My wife proves herself by sticking with me through a dangerous situation regarding my ex and that sealed the deal for me. I don't really hate women but I look around at what is available these days and i think would be better off playing the field unless they get lucky like me. Link to post Share on other sites
iceis44 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Divorcing after 26 years, I knew I never loved him the way I felt a woman is suppose to love a man. When I left, I didnt need a man, didnt want a man, and quite frankly my dear never cared if I had a man again. Had a very understanding, independent, coworker, friend at work we talked about relationships, failures and successes, everything without the pretense of a relationship or dating attraction, just never thought of him that way?? Well here we are 6 months later, he is still one of the most understanding, independent, men I have ever met. We click on so many levels, I think we are both still scared to death, but we went into this as friends first, all the thick, drowning, crushing part of getting to know a potiental partner was not there, And the sex department blows my socks off everytime, I am still looking for my socks, I think they are under the bed along with, the excuses my husband gave me as to why he couldnt last more than 2 minutes in bed. And as my amazing 24 year old daughter reminded me of one of the life lessons I tried to teach her, You are complete without a man, a relationship adds to you, it does not make you who you are. So I still don't need a man, dont have to have a man, sometimes might like a man, but a man does not make me more than I am alone. Link to post Share on other sites
iceis44 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Not even that- it's not even the controlling factor about men- it's that they don't ever want to get married. I have left 3 relationships now that were long-term and i wanted marriage out of it and they didn't. It is impossible to find marriage-minded-men! Quit looking to get married, look to enhance your life how ever it may end up. Drives me insane, life is not the destination at the end of the road, life IS the road. Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 Quit looking to get married, look to enhance your life how ever it may end up. Drives me insane, life is not the destination at the end of the road, life IS the road. thanks iceis44. i can appreciate both of your posts. the "socks"...funny. i agree totally that a man only ADDS to us and does not complete who we are. Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 any matches made in heaven? or success stories after difficult times...? Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 any matches made in heaven? or success stories after difficult times...? Yes! Perhaps on both counts. There's no big secret. A successful relationship/marriage takes commitment, first of all, and then a lot of hard work. If you're not willing to do both then it's all rather futile and probably won't last. Link to post Share on other sites
Island Girl Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 As soon as you except being single guess whats gonna happen, like someone already mentioned you will end up in a relationship. So true. I accepted that I was going to be alone -- had been married and it hadn't worked out so I was AGAINST going through that train wreck again -- and set up rules and boundaries to make sure of that. I became comfortable with my decision. I was completely at peace with it and looking forward to the rest my life. And then BOOM when I absolutely did not expect it, I met my now husband. Thought he'd get fired in less than 2 weeks and here we are still stuck 8 years later...happy as two people can be as far as the relationship goes. So when you aren't looking and you least expect it is when it really does happen.:bunny: Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 So when you aren't looking and you least expect it is when it really does happen.:bunny: In my experience, love comes best when you're looking for it least. Twelve years and counting! Link to post Share on other sites
Author muse08 Posted November 1, 2008 Author Share Posted November 1, 2008 thanks guys. wise advice! Link to post Share on other sites
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