Is it safe to order prescription drugs online?

[Patty]

After reading Clia's response,I do agree.My mother does day care for 11 hours a day but she always gets up to do her 45 minute walk which is first thing in the morning before all the kids come in.

 

Im not trying to dissagree with you Jamie,so dont take it personally.

 

Plus my mother comes back telling me these stories of these animals she runs into while doing her walk.She comes back and tells me she saw foxes one time while walking.It can be really fun to see what animals you can get to see while walking.You might even want to bring along a friend which can make it more fun.Just never walk alone when its dark.

 

The more I think about exercising,I dont think it has anything to do with finding time,I think it has more to do with making exercising fun.Have you thought about dancing to music? Or do you like roller skating? The good thing about exercising,is it can be fun.It doesnt have to be boring.I think the biggest thing that stops people from exercising is that they think it will stop them from getting other things done.Im only saying it cause I think its true.Even if its just sparing 5 minutes a day.

 

Im not trying to insult you Jamie,so dont take it personally.

 

I think the secret of exercising is to make it fun.Think of some sports or things you like to do,like bowling or swimming.If you dont like bowling or swimming,thats ok.Just think of things you like and have fun.

 

I admitt,I cant do anything without my music!

 

Good luck!

 

Patty

[jenny]

i mean, i'm just asking.

[imjustagirl]

Since I moved over 50 miles away from my doctor that I've had for several years...(I refuse to get a doctor in this town beings I work at the hospital and know how...well rude they can be)

 

Anyways....all I do is call my doctor back home and talk to the nurse (via cell phone so no long distance charges). Tell the nurse that I'm feeling such n such symptoms ask if I can get an Rx...tell them where I want it called in. The pharmacy that I have them call it in to is right here in town and they are willing to deliver to your home/office free of charge.

 

They send you a bill every month for the cost of your prescriptions and deduct whatever your insurance has paid.

 

I do this with antibiotic's, pain meds, and my birthcontrol pills.

 

Only on occassion am I asked to come in, like in April when the antibiotic's weren't working and I was still sick....had to have a simple blood test to determine I had mono.

 

This has saved me soo much money. No more 45 dollar office visits every time I get sick.

 

Just my contribution to the democracy of high medical/prescription costs.

 

~justa~

[Jamie31]

Um..well..like..I am like..totally sure I am a nursing STUDENT! And wtf does that have to do with anything?

[cindy0039]

Originally posted by Jamie31

Um..well..like..I am like..totally sure I am a nursing STUDENT! And wtf does that have to do with anything?

 

Probably because you should know better!

[my_mother's_daughter]

Legal? Under US law legitimate, certified orgs may apparently may sell online. Safe? Any prescription not resulting from practitioner advice is in my case not a prescription, but a self-diagnosis. Would you perform surgery upon yourself? If you do not have a medical degree, then I'd think again about self diagnosis. Having used the same drugs at a previous time doesn't necessarily mean they are right for you now Jamie.

[baycityroller]

I simply cannot believe that a healthcare professional would be so publicly irresponsible as to come to a public forum such as this and so freely and carelessly endorse the purchasing of non doctor prescribed appetite suppressants. How many people who are looking for a quick and easy (albeit risky) way to lose weight might stumble upon this post and take it upon themself, without ever having stepped foot into a doctor's office for a proper and thorough health assessment, to do as Jamie is indirectly advocating. Am I the only one here who's shocked and appalled? I simply cannot comprehend, someone in the healthcare profession (if in fact they really are) would advocate bypassing a physician and taking it upon onself to self-medicate. A healthcare professional who is guided by professionalism and ethics would never do such a thing, in my opinion---in fact, they would have the knowledge base to know that proper and safe weight loss occurs through healthy eating and regular exercise, not popping pills and looking for risky shortcuts.

 

Jamie you profess that you've taken these pills in the past and you lost 30 pounds in 3 months (that is foolish and unsafe) yet if they were so effective, why are you needing to take them again? And just because it was your doctor who originally prescribed them after checking your blood pressure and doing labwork, who is to say your blood pressure is currently good and that your labwork would all be fine here and now? Perhaps instead of spending time here, dangerously and unprofessionally advocating the self-prescribing of health-risking medications that can be ordered online, you should spend that time exercising, joining a gym, walking, doing aerobics or pilates or yoga and referring back to the information you would have learned in school about proper nutrition. And as for your assertion that once these miracle pills arrive, that you can simply go to your local pharmacist to have them checked for authenticity, a pharmacist isn't a chemist; they do not have the ability to analyze medications brought into them, to check for authenticity.

 

I hope that those who have a sound knowledge in safe and lasting weight loss will be able to provide the correct information here.

 

I see now that Jamie is a nursing student. Well, I don't know what kind of university or college she attends but either they're not teaching their students properly, or Jamie is not truly a nursing student, or God help the public at large when nursing students such as this graduate and are dispensing their knowledge to those in need.

[cindy0039]

Amen Baycityroller!

[Jamie31]

WEll, babycityroller, whoever the hell you are - If you had read all of my responses above you would see this, or maybe your just blind so I will repeat myself again -

 

I have well done my research on this drug. I have the equipment here to monitor my blood pressure if needed. All I am doing, is saving myself a trip to the doctor's office. It's not a big of a deal as you all are making it out to be. I am not saying "Hey, go out and buy online prescription drugs!!". I posted this originally hoping to get a response from someone who has done this before and could tell me how it worked out.

 

But I should have known all you people would lash back at me...that seems to be the trend around here. I mean, I could say "I want to plant a tree" and someone would say something negative about it.

 

And just because I am in nursing school does not mean I am supposed to do everything that is morally and ethically right. Since when are nurses saints? And I am only in my second year of nursing school.....if I knew everything there was to know about it, I guess I would already be a nurse now wouldn't I?

 

But anyway....

[cindy0039]

Jamie - All I have to say to you at this point is: Don't ask for advice if you really don't want it.

[Tony T]

JAMIE31 WRITES: "And just because I am in nursing school does not mean I am supposed to do everything that is morally and ethically right."

 

Uh, duh? So your school has excused you from acting ethically and morally? Which nursing school are you attending? I think because we are human beings we should try to base our actions on morals and ethics. That really has nothing to do with nursing school, it has to do with being a decent human being.

 

Anyway, baycityroller said it well and said enough. I don't think we need to hammer Jamie31's desires any longer. It's a waste of time. I've never seen unappreciated people struggling so hard to keep a nursing student from screwing herself up. Repeated use of diet drugs is dangerous, even for a young person. Repeated reliance upon the wrong ones can be deadly and often we don't know what drugs are harmful until it's way too late.

[clia]

And just because I am in nursing school does not mean I am supposed to do everything that is morally and ethically right.

 

In another year (or whenever you are done with school), you will be held to a higher standard. Practicing nursing requires a license, and that license may be revoked. Here is your local statute:

 

Tenn. Code. Ann. 63-7-115

 

(a)(1) The board has the power to deny, revoke or suspend any certificate or license to practice nursing or to otherwise discipline a licensee upon proof that the person:

 

(A) Is guilty of fraud or deceit in procuring or attempting to procure a license to practice nursing;

 

(B) Is guilty of a crime;

 

© Is unfit or incompetent by reason of negligence, habits or other cause;

 

(D) Is addicted to alcohol or drugs to the degree of interfering with nursing duties;

 

(E) Is mentally incompetent;

 

(F) Is guilty of unprofessional conduct; or

 

(G) Has violated or attempted to violate, directly or indirectly, or assisted in or abetted the violation of, or conspired to violate, any provision of this chapter or any lawful order of the board issued pursuant thereto.

 

 

And in case you are wondering what "unprofessional conduct" is, here are a couple examples of what some courts around the country have found:

 

Nurse who obtained valium, a narcotic drug, without authorization and self- administered it was guilty of unprofessional conduct which warranted revocation of his license. Stevens v Blake, 456 So 2d 795 (Ala. App. 1984).

 

It was improper professional conduct for registered nurse to obtain and convert to her own use Demerol, a controlled drug, and state board of examiners for nursing did not err in revoking nurse's license to practice nursing for such reason. Leib v Board of Examiners for Nursing, 177 Conn 78, 411 A2d 42 (1979).

[Tony T]

Clia:

 

In Jamie's defense, I think her intentions were to either get her prescription filled through an online service or to go through an online service which has a doctor review submitted patient data before prescribing the medication. Most online services have doctors who review each situation and writes a prescription before medication is dispensed. Doing either would be legal, although I think it's dangerous medically to do things without the knowledge of our primary care physician. In any case, that would not excuse her outlandish statement that she is not "supposed to do everything that is morally and ethically right." I would certainly not want a nurse who took that position.

 

I am praying that Jamie wrote that statement very late at night and did so as a result of fatigue. I really can't believe she would mean this. I've never met anybody from Tennessee who didn't have decents morals and ethics.

 

You are certainly correct in what you have written and I know firsthand of a number of nurses in my area alone who are in treatment (in lieu of jailtime) for taking medications from locked storage areas of hospitals and using it for themselves. It's easy for not only nurses but doctors themselves to abuse prescription medication...including narcotics.

[baycityroller]

Originally posted by Jamie31

WEll, babycityroller, whoever the hell you are - If you had read all of my responses above you would see this, or maybe your just blind so I will repeat myself again -

 

No need to be condescending.

 

I have well done my research on this drug. I have the equipment here to monitor my blood pressure if needed. All I am doing, is saving myself a trip to the doctor's office. It's not a big of a deal as you all are making it out to be. I am not saying "Hey, go out and buy online prescription drugs!!". I posted this originally hoping to get a response from someone who has done this before and could tell me how it worked out.

 

Are you also able to do your own labwork and the necessary eye exams to check for glaucoma? I don't think so, and from information on use of Phentermine, it clearly indicates that a physician should be checking all these things, including a person's blood pressure, prior to prescribing it. So I have to question whether you've really done your research on this drug because you seem to think that because you have the equipment to check your blood pressure within your access, that it's automatically safe for you to self prescribe this appetite suppressant.

 

 

And just because I am in nursing school does not mean I am supposed to do everything that is morally and ethically right. Since when are nurses saints? And I am only in my second year of nursing school.....if I knew everything there was to know about it, I guess I would already be a nurse now wouldn't I?

 

Supposed to? Well I would hope that you would at least strive to. Nobody said nurses were saints or should be, but when one is known to be a nurse or nursing student, it should be common sense that what they have to say regarding matters of health and medications would be held in higher regard by readers than someone with no healthcare background. By it being known that you're a 2nd year nursing student, I do personally believe that with that comes some personal responsibility to ensure that you're not posting information that directly or indirectly harm others. I would venture to guess that there are thousands of people who read these forums; thousands who also would love to lose weight and would jump at the chance to find a quick fix. Now when they read a post from a 2nd year nursing student who's advocating the use of bypassing a trip to the doctor's office and simply ordering potentially dangerous appetite suppressants online, they may think that's just a great idea, maybe they've never known until now that this could be done.....and they may assume that if you, with a certain degree of medical and health knowledge are endorsing this, that it must be a "safe" thing to do. However, they may have a health history that would make it amazingly dangerous for them to take these sorts of medications: high blood pressure (that maybe they're not aware of), glaucoma, impaired liver or kidney function, on medications that would very negatively interact with appetite suppressants........it could be a recipe for disaster.

 

You, a 2nd year nursing student are clearly advocating the practice of bypassing a doctor's visit and assessment to ensure that it would be prudent and safe to take these pills again and you're very vocal about that. By the 2nd year of nursing college, I would assume that you'd have received ample instruction on the importance of doctors visits and assessments and the danger of self medication and using quick fixes in place of proper nutrition and regular exercise.

 

I don't understand because you've written the reason you gained back some of the weight you'd previously lost while taking these medications was because of the high fat content of college food and now, the inability to partake in an exercise regime due to a busy schedule...but if you're wanting to take appetite suppressants, that would indicate that you overeat, and are looking to suppress your appetite.

 

I hope anyone reading this thread, who has considered ordering diet pills and appetite suppressants through the many inscrupulous places online, would, for the sake of their own health, at least do some research first and consult their family doctor. Many women have died or been left with forever-lasting negative effects as the result of quick-fix diet pills. Maybe not Phentermine but lay people reading all of this might not know that one is any different from the other.

 

 

 

But anyway....

[clia]

Tony --

 

In any case, that would not excuse her outlandish statement that she is not "supposed to do everything that is morally and ethically right." I would certainly not want a nurse who took that position.

 

This is the only statement I was trying to rebut. The site seems to be legal, but notwithstanding this, Jamie should certainly be aware that she is going to have standards to live up to once she becomes a nurse, which includes certain moral and ethical decisions she will have to make on a daily basis. I'm surpised they haven't mentioned this in nursing school yet...

[Jamie31]

Blah, blah, blah................write a novel, already!!!

 

I am really tired of arguing about this. Obviously there are different view points about this, so let's just retire this thread and quit wasting our time.

 

And when I made that "outlandish statement"....I meant like okay, so just because I am in nursing school I should never do something that society might deem immoral? Like drinking, having sex before marriage, etc etc.....stuff like that. Of course when I am on the job I will be professional and practice with the highest of standards....my school stresses that. But I am talking about my personal life outside of the workplace. It's a given that I will follow morals and ethics in the workplace, but that's not what I was talking about.

 

But whatever, let's just forget it!

 

Oh, and Clia - that junk you posted about the TN regulations of nursing........yeah, I already knew all that stuff. I have a whole packet that states everything about that. So you could have saved yourself the trouble. And it didn't even relate to the original post. So yeah.

[clia]

that junk you posted about the TN regulations of nursing

 

Junk? Glad to see you take the law and standards of your profession so seriously.

 

It's a given that I will follow morals and ethics in the workplace, but that's not what I was talking about.

 

Reread the statute. Things you do and how you behave outside of work also can have a bearing on your license. Do not be fooled--you are going to be a healthcare professional and you *are* held to a higher standard than the average person, even outside of the workplace.

 

And it didn't even relate to the original post.

 

It related to your comment on morals/ethics.

[baycityroller]

You sure do seem to become extremely snarky and sarcastic when anyone here challenges you on anything you've written, to the point of outwardly insulting those who respond to you. Don't think I've ever seen anything like it, to this magnitude anyway, before. Interesting. And by the way, I think you missed a lot of the points people, myself included were trying to make. Oh well.

[Tony T]

YOU STATE: "Obviously there are different view points about this, so let's just retire this thread and quit wasting our time."

 

Your reaction is somewhat different when YOU are in the hotseat. When others are being cornered, you're the first one to the frontline to speak your piece. Paybacks are hell. If you want to receive compassion and gentleness, send same out to the universe. I promise you it works.

 

- "And, in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." - Beatles, Abbey Road, 9/69

[cindy0039]

Karma.

[Jamie31]

Sure thing, skippy.