I can't believe it!

[81West]

Family do whatever is necessary to protect the ones they love. And if it sometimes mean threating or taking someone's life that is a threat, then one has to do what one has to do. Question for you, if someone you conssived as a threat to you, your siblings, or your parents, would you not threaten them to stay away?

 

I have thought for some time that you are one of the creepiest and most disturbed people on Loveshack. There is certainly nothing about this post that changes that opinion.

[Dark-N-Romantic]

I have thought for some time that you are one of the creepiest and most disturbed people on Loveshack. There is certainly nothing about this post that changes that opinion.

 

West, and I could careless, really. We each have our own feelings and says, and a lot of you raise the same feelings, I am not really hear to make friends with most of you or you with me, it really doesn't matter. And thank you for the compliment.

 

 

DNR

Those who I really care about and who really cares about me see more of me than you ever will, and they are all glad I am who I am.

[InLimbo2]

Limbo... I heard you talk about my mother, my sanity (which by the way doctors find nothing wrong with it and I HAVE told them about some of the stunts I pulled to receive justice for a wrong done unto me, and they say just as long as I did not go over the top or cross the lines of breaking the law, I am okay)

 

Legally you may be ok if you don't 'go over the top, but mentally and emotionally - nope. Did you ever tell any of these 'doctors' that you believe it's justified and god's will that you murder someone who's committed adultery? doubtful And just for the record, the fact that you post here advocating the use of deadly violence for adultery could play heavily in a premeditation conviction. Think never happens? Cops are way better at tracking people online than they used to. And - I assume your friends and family know your feelings. You kill someone and they'll be saying 'he always said he'd kill over this". And - also for the record - it IS illegal to threaten someone with bodily harm - it's the assault part of assault and battery.

 

, and I hear you think I am immature (which is far from the truth, as a matter of fact, I am told I take things too seriously by friends and family and others who truly know and understand me).

 

Ok I agree, you take things way too seriously - believing it's ok to kill people over something like this. How you equate that to maturity or emotional health I can't fathom. Serial killers take things way too seriously too. Like the ones that have stalked and killed prostitutes because it was immoral and against 'god's law'.

 

So, you loose on that case.

 

Uh, personal opinion, it's anyone that gets involved with someone who advocates murder as a way of solving a personal relationship issue that is the one that looses.

 

And the reason why my girlfriend cheated was because she was the one who was immature. She decided that she wanted to make fun of me in front of her friends. And then, beg me to say something mean back. I refused until she started getting all huffy and mad, so I said to words that popped into my head, "hippo hips." She asked for it and she got it. And that started her downward tumble. So, be careful what you do and what you wish for, sometimes it comes back in ways you least expect it.

 

I have nothing to fear - I don't play childish games with the people I claim to love and if someone mistreated me I'd walk away - not stick around to make them pay with their life.

 

Now a few questions for you... What excuse or reason did your ex-husband give for cheating on you? And why are you divorced now? What is wrong with you that your husband or anyone would want to hurt you like he did?

 

He didn't give any excuse - and I really didn't care. We're divorced (years later) because we no longer wanted to be married to one another. He's moved on, I've moved on - and all of us are still alive.

 

Huh, illegal, I beg to differ. A man shot to death a 18 your old boy who was carrying on an affair with his wife. He only got two years for negligent use of his weapon. A man who shot the lover of his wife got no time at all. A man in the Marine Corps who ran his sword through his wife and her lover while they were in bed, got off scott free.

 

Interesting you only pick the sensational cases that support your theory. Sometimes people get off on 'crime of passion' reasons. We had one here in MD where the judge said the guy was justified for shooting his wife and her lover - when it was premeditated. Of course, he was removed from the bench and the guy went to jail. Picking a few cases that make the news particularly because the judge was nuts or the verdict was so crazy doesn't support your arguments.

 

And most judges and cops by records don't trouble a person who assualted someone who did harm to someone who was having an affair with their wife. It is only if the crime is over the top is anything really done. And that's from studies.

 

Oh yeah - what studies? Let's see objective unbiased legit recent studies saying so. Cops used to have their hands tied with domestic violence cases - unless the victim was willing to press charges - no longer the case - there's DV - someone goes to jail - period.

 

So, is really a lack of matury to assault those who are doing harm to you, even if it is through a third party act?

 

Yes - it's immature - sounds like middle school playground behavior. It's the sign of someone that is unstable and lacks judgment and feels they are justified in being the arbiter of all others' acts and be judge, jury, and executioner - a very dangerous person.

 

Is revealing the truth and putting the spotlight on the evils that are done in the dark illegal or childish?

 

Listen to yourself - you've put yourself on some pedestal or made a god of yourself. How bout they'll get theirs someday - karma; or they have to answer to their creator for their wrongdoings.

 

If so, then you best to start with the one who has NO tolerance for adultry, God.

 

Only folks in nutjob fringe religions would ever support your belief that it's ok to murder people for adultery - yes - I said it - NUTJOB FRINGE religions.

[InLimbo2]

Or maybe they're just afraid you are going to snap and decide that the penalty for telling you that you need help is execution.

 

Those who I really care about and who really cares about me see more of me than you ever will, and they are all glad I am who I am.

[jj33]

Sadly the statistics Dark n Romantic quoted are correct. So if we can stop the personal attacks for a moment he is clearly not alone in his thoughts.

 

The police are very loathe to intervene in domestic violence situations and even more loathe to intervene where adultery is involved. Not in all cases but there is a high degree of selective enforcement. Women lose. That is the real problem.

[InLimbo2]

Sadly the statistics Dark n Romantic quoted are correct.

 

Things are changing - and I'm well aware that a RO isn't worth the paper it's written on and anyone that is that afraid for their life had better have a gun to back it up. The reality is that ROs are worthless, they just make the legal end after you kill them less messy and difficult.

 

So if we can stop the personal attacks for a moment he is clearly not alone in his thoughts.

 

Ironic that you consider tellin me that saying someone that advocates murder that they are wrong and need help is a 'personal attack'.

 

The police are very loathe to intervene in domestic violence situations and even more loathe to intervene where adultery is involved. Not in all cases but there is a high degree of selective enforcement.

 

Ask any cop - and I come from a family full of cops - why they hate domestic calls. Because along with traffic stops, they are the most dangerous for a cop. Most women who call the cops for DV then try to recant or try to keep the man from going to jail - so the cops feel they've wasted their time - again. They don't really care about the personal inter-relationships of the parties involved - 'baby mamma drama'. In most places if anyone shows signs of assault, someone has to go to jail. Ask any cop if they would do 'selective enforcement' when someone threatens to kill while waving a gun or does kill someone else.

 

Women lose. That is the real problem.

 

It's usually women, but sometimes it's men. You lock up people who beat on other people because they can't resolve things like mature intelligent adults.

[Dark-N-Romantic]

You just don't get it Limbo. It flys over your head. And reality isn't what you can deal with. Secondly, your taking the subject off topic. We know how you feel and we know how I feel. Now if you would be mature and stop with the personal attacks like the mature woman you claim to be, we can each make rational valid points. Use information at hand to support and dispute each other's postions. But, the personal attacks of you guys against me really need to stop. Now lets keep the thread on track.

 

The thread was about a woman who willing was a party to destroying someone's life. This kid sees her as a treat to his life, the life of his mother, and all that he holds dear. And he is right in threatening her if she is a threat.

 

Being an other person IS a threat. A threat to the nornalacy and peace of his household. Plus, you are adding pain unto the family, emotional pain can be and usually is more damaging than physical pain. An affair harms a persons view on sex, how a man and woman should treat each other, the promises to each other the vows represents, and it destroys the view they have of their parents. This is why adultry is such a damning thing. And the kid had every right to threaten harm to someone who was hurting him. We all would do it on our own terms and ideas. So, he is not wrong. The only wrong people hear are the poster who is getting what she deserves. And the cheating man who needs a good kick in the butt too.

 

And lastly, to clear something up for all you who do not understand what I am saying. I neither agree or disagree with how adulterers are punished. Just as long as both are equally punished. And the ones who are punished are those who KNOWINGLY engage in adultery. So, if it is being ostrasized and divorced. So be it. If it is being stoned. So be it. Justice is justice and is dependant on the society. And I see nothing wrong with that.

 

 

DNR

[Dark-N-Romantic]

PS Limbo. I have cops and lawyers in my family, so that is were I get some of my information from as well. And they tell me the same thing... They have little compulsion for running either man or woman in and most of them don't if an assault, as long as it was not one that was serious (i.e. weapons were involved, someone dead, or put in the hospital for an extended stay), then they just walk away or they'll handle the issue right there on the spot. Most other people and/or cheating spouse refuse to make a statement after the little speech. And no they don't use threats. The reason with the person for them to see how they brought the problem on themselves and they need to work the issues out among themselves before the get the courts involved.

 

 

DNR

[InLimbo2]

It doesn't go over my head. I'm mature enought to know that murder is not the answer to adultery. The "personal attacks" of us against you? When a number of people tell you that your views are anti-social and scary - a smart mature person would stop and take stock and wonder if maybe they see something you don't.

 

Get help, the help you so obviously need.

 

 

You just don't get it Limbo. It flys over your head. And reality isn't what you can deal with. Secondly, your taking the subject off topic. We know how you feel and we know how I feel. Now if you would be mature and stop with the personal attacks like the mature woman you claim to be, we can each make rational valid points. Use information at hand to support and dispute each other's postions. But, the personal attacks of you guys against me really need to stop. Now lets keep the thread on track.

 

The thread was about a woman who willing was a party to destroying someone's life. This kid sees her as a treat to his life, the life of his mother, and all that he holds dear. And he is right in threatening her if she is a threat.

 

Being an other person IS a threat. A threat to the nornalacy and peace of his household. Plus, you are adding pain unto the family, emotional pain can be and usually is more damaging than physical pain. An affair harms a persons view on sex, how a man and woman should treat each other, the promises to each other the vows represents, and it destroys the view they have of their parents. This is why adultry is such a damning thing. And the kid had every right to threaten harm to someone who was hurting him. We all would do it on our own terms and ideas. So, he is not wrong. The only wrong people hear are the poster who is getting what she deserves. And the cheating man who needs a good kick in the butt too.

 

And lastly, to clear something up for all you who do not understand what I am saying. I neither agree or disagree with how adulterers are punished. Just as long as both are equally punished. And the ones who are punished are those who KNOWINGLY engage in adultery. So, if it is being ostrasized and divorced. So be it. If it is being stoned. So be it. Justice is justice and is dependant on the society. And I see nothing wrong with that.

 

 

DNR

[InLimbo2]

A family of cops that ignores assault and battery - cuz it's only a 'small assault'. Why doesn't this surprise me?

 

PS Limbo. I have cops and lawyers in my family, so that is were I get some of my information from as well. And they tell me the same thing... They have little compulsion for running either man or woman in and most of them don't if an assault, as long as it was not one that was serious (i.e. weapons were involved, someone dead, or put in the hospital for an extended stay), then they just walk away or they'll handle the issue right there on the spot. Most other people and/or cheating spouse refuse to make a statement after the little speech. And no they don't use threats. The reason with the person for them to see how they brought the problem on themselves and they need to work the issues out among themselves before the get the courts involved.

 

 

DNR

[bentnotbroken]

thanks again everyone, i felt bad and i put this on the board and now i feel worse after reading some of the replies...trust me I have sought the Lord and asked for forgiveness for my sins. Jesus, came for the sinners not for the perfect people (or at least not for those who think their perfect). I have adult children too and if i inflamed them, they might would overreact too. but it would be MY FAULT. I have never made it a practice in 30 years of parenting to enrage my children with MY problems. every family is different...so thanks all of you, your replies are appreciated and it has been a great discussion.

 

Then Lord is the only one you have to deal with, as I said before. I respect that you know these people, but as much as we think we know someone, we never know what goes on when two people are alone behind closed doors. I would suspect(only suspect)that you aren't his first affair, nor will you be his last.

[bentnotbroken]

DNR, I hear ya.

[Dark-N-Romantic]

Originally Posted by precious1357

thanks again everyone, i felt bad and i put this on the board and now i feel worse after reading some of the replies...trust me I have sought the Lord and asked for forgiveness for my sins. Jesus, came for the sinners not for the perfect people (or at least not for those who think their perfect). I have adult children too and if i inflamed them, they might would overreact too. but it would be MY FAULT. I have never made it a practice in 30 years of parenting to enrage my children with MY problems. every family is different...so thanks all of you, your replies are appreciated and it has been a great discussion.

 

God blessings to you on your enlightenment and continue strengths and healing. Don't be upset with the kid, he did what he though he had to. I hope you understand that. And the thing you need most is to forgive yourself. Not for falling in love with the wrong man, but for causing harm to others. Love is never meant to do that. Be strong and of good faith.

 

 

DNR

 

PS: You still don't get it Limbo and it is apparent you never will. Well good luck to you and God blessings to you. And thank you for being someone else for me to pray for.

[81West]

West, and I could careless, really. We each have our own feelings and says, and a lot of you raise the same feelings, I am not really hear to make friends with most of you or you with me, it really doesn't matter. And thank you for the compliment.

 

 

DNR

Those who I really care about and who really cares about me see more of me than you ever will, and they are all glad I am who I am.

 

You consistently advocate and applaud violence and homicide as a desirable solution to all manner of things and for the life of me I can't comprehend why it's allowed on these boards. Where I live you'd be brought in for questioning.

[Dark-N-Romantic]

You consistently advocate and applaud violence and homicide as a desirable solution to all manner of things and for the life of me I can't comprehend why it's allowed on these boards. Where I live you'd be brought in for questioning.

 

You, like Limbo, are totally oblivious to what is being said. And I can't help you understand it if you are so closed.

 

 

DNR

[bentnotbroken]

You consistently advocate and applaud violence and homicide as a desirable solution to all manner of things and for the life of me I can't comprehend why it's allowed on these boards. Where I live you'd be brought in for questioning.

 

 

Wow, you live in a place without freedom of opinion or speech? Glad I don't live in that place.

[81West]

Wow, you live in a place without freedom of opinion or speech? Glad I don't live in that place.

 

Yeah well we do draw the line here at the public cheerleading of moralizing via homicide. It's a real prison. Please send Twinkies.

[bentnotbroken]

So where you live doesn't support wars. Since a few are passed on somebodies view of another's moral inadequacies.

[InLimbo2]

And I hope I never do 'get it' that murder is the solution to personal relationship issues. Thanks - but don't need the blessings of any "god" of yours - one that advocates murder.

 

PS: You still don't get it Limbo and it is apparent you never will. Well good luck to you and God blessings to you. And thank you for being someone else for me to pray for.

[InLimbo2]

well - don't know about you - but I live in the USA - and while we vigorously defend our right to free speech, it is not without any restrictions

 

Wow, you live in a place without freedom of opinion or speech? Glad I don't live in that place.

[signedin2008]

Precious, are you telling us that you have not slept with him yet?

[dannydrifter]

And I hope I never do 'get it' that murder is the solution to personal relationship issues. Thanks - but don't need the blessings of any "god" of yours - one that advocates murder.

 

Tip: If you put the quote above your response (instead of below like you always do), it will make it easier for people to read your replies.

[Dark-N-Romantic]

So where you live doesn't support wars. Since a few are passed on somebodies view of another's moral inadequacies.

 

Bent, there are some people you just have to ignore do to their ignorance and in ability to understand things on a deeper level. These people are neither mature in mind nor spirit. They can't seem to understand the difference between one's feelings and one's actions. And trust me, the have a lot of issues on their own to deal with that would make them seem like loons to us. So, if I were you, I'd just ignore them from here on out. They aren't worth even thinking about.

 

 

DNR

[InLimbo2]

Yes, excellent advice - it's best to ignore immature ignorant people who advocate solving personal problems with violence - they are not only immature, but dangerous - and should be ignored by sane rational civilized people - to do otherwise condones their dangerous warped beliefs.

 

Bent, there are some people you just have to ignore do to their ignorance and in ability to understand things on a deeper level. These people are neither mature in mind nor spirit. They can't seem to understand the difference between one's feelings and one's actions. And trust me, the have a lot of issues on their own to deal with that would make them seem like loons to us. So, if I were you, I'd just ignore them from here on out. They aren't worth even thinking about.

 

 

DNR

[bentnotbroken]

I think an occasional @sswhipping is appropriate when asked for repeatedly by someone. Like Mr. Messy, glad he got his hearts desire. Ain't the good ole US of A grand?