Explorer Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 If you KNEW (Don't ask why) we were all going to heaven regardless of our sins, would you still sin? Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Wouldn't this make you want to sin more? Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Wouldn't this make you want to sin more? If I thought there *was* such a thing as heaven, Yep! Link to post Share on other sites
Nemo Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Sins are almost always selfish acts. I am not selfish. My mission is to spread as much joy throughout the world as possible - and the most successful vehicle for achieving my goal is indisputably anal sex. I love the world too much to sin. Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 They say there's a heaven for those who will wait. Some say it's better but I say it aint. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I don't base my actions on whether I will be punished or rewarded for them, so it wouldn't alter my behaviour one bit. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
theBrokenMuse Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 If you KNEW (Don't ask why) we were all going to heaven regardless of our sins, would you still sin? I don't believe in 'sin' as anything other than a man made concept. I would continue to live as I do now, enjoying my life while doing my best not to step on anyone else's toes. Link to post Share on other sites
Enema Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Wouldn't this make you want to sin more? You make it sound like sinning is desireable, or sins are fun. God doesn't want you to have fun. Is that it? Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 i believe in the golden rule and the karma of it, so no i wouldn't sin more than i normally do. also, i believe everyone goes to heaven anyways... God is all forgiving. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 They say there's a heaven for those who will wait. Some say it's better but I say it aint. :laugh: and I'll bet you got a nice white dress and a party on your confirmation, too! quank, 'cause the sinners are much more fun ... Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 would you still sin? intentionally? No. However, I'm merely human, born to make mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 would you still sin? intentionally? No. However, I'm merely human, born to make mistakes. yep.... that's what i meant too... joe cool says it better! Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 i believe in the golden rule and the karma of it, so no i wouldn't sin more than i normally do. also, i believe everyone goes to heaven anyways... God is all forgiving. Love it.... 'Karma' and 'God' all in one sentence!! Link to post Share on other sites
chris250 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The fear of hell has never been an effective way to motivate me to change my behavior. I do believe everyone is going to heaven. Ever since the threat of punishment has been removed from my mind I do not sin any more or less than before. I believe that I reap what I sow on this earth. My finite actions have finite consequences and I experience those consequences in this life. If I steal I'll probably wind up in jail with a 50,000$ fine on my head. We have state and federal laws to motivate order in society. Especially with today's technology it's nearly impossible to get away with murder. So I think the earthly consequences of my actions are more of a deterrant to sin than the fear of eternal torture in the afterlife. We sure will reap what we sow whether good or bad but that does not mean anyone is going to hell. Just as a loving earthly parent will not punish their child forever. You punish your child for the purpose of correction and discipline. Ephesians 6 even instructs fathers not to discipline their children in anger. Why? because punishment should have a corrective purpose to it. Once your children have proven over time that they've learned from their mistakes then the punishment is no longer necessary. I believe that's how God deals with us. Why would He be thirsty for revenge? How would it benefit Him to use punishment as a form of payback? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 If you KNEW (Don't ask why) we were all going to heaven regardless of our sins, would you still sin? I'd live the same way and believe the same things I do now. Link to post Share on other sites
chris250 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 So far all of the responses on this thread is evidence that the fear of hell is NOT the answer in motivating people to do good. We already have proof that nobody needs to twist their arm to do right. Remove any fear of punishment and people would be just as inclined if not more inclined to do good to their fellow humans. So the question is why is the doctrine of hell necessary when most people don't need it as a way to scare them into doing good anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 yer forgetting about those folks who need a reminder that there ARE consequences to their behavior. Just like jail time when you break the law, only this is an eternal separatedness from their Creator. Link to post Share on other sites
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