Do all men really want to cheat?

[carhill]

It goes together.. more women cheat these days.. but way more men cheat too.. more than before... and it will always be more.

 

Yes, this sounds reasonable. As the number of available and willing female partners increases, more opportunities will be presented to men and an increasing percentage will avail themselves of those opportunities. Also, the dynamic of peer and societal pressures will alter, tipping the balance for the fence-sitters.

 

That granted, I don't think we'll ever approach "all", for either gender. In fact, as we look back from a future perspective, I see the propensity for a cycle of such behaviors as we evolve. It's probably already there, but I'm rusty on my social history

[PrincessPeach]

Here's my POV...

 

I do believe in men/women friendship.. ONLY if they were friends 'forever' like before they met their 'soulmates'..

 

IF..

 

you have a bf and then, out of the blue, he's got a new 'female friend'.. then.. sorry but I don't buy that.. especially if the woman is hot.

 

Men are wired differently than women.. women can go on, even if they're not 'in love' anymore, without cheating.. most men can't.

 

Most (if not all) men will cheat, given the opportunity and knowing they would never get caught..

 

I am absolutely sure about that.. the ones who say they wouldn't... either know they would never get another woman (probably they're too fat and ugly) or they're liars..

 

Men are soooo easy.. they don't always think with the right 'head'

That sounds pretty bitter towards men. I think it's fairly equal between the genders. More men might be prone to admitting that they would cheat given the opportunity, but I don't think that most would, and I think women are just as likely to cheat but it just isn't as calculated as it is with men (which doesn't mean women cheat more or less). I think that both many men and women cheat, and more than half may at some point in their lives for both genders whether they see it as cheating or not.

 

I think men who claim not to cheat and are honest about it aren't the ones who dont think they could never get another girl, but the ones who have high esteem and self-respect. Somone who doesn't think they could get another girl seems MORE likely to be to be susceptible to cheating if the opportunity presented itself because they are low self-esteem and don't respect themselves.

[Nikki Sahagin]

I think it all depends on your view of sex and love. I am 19 and have been with my boyfriend for nearly 2 years. I sometimes 'fancy' or have little crushes on other men, I sometimes think about them...in different ways. I don't know whether or not he does the same. The difference is, when it comes to the crunch, I wouldn't do it. I know a lot of people who HAVE cheated. My uncle always used to cheat on my aunty and always brought his affairs to our house so from a young age I have thought that's just the way it is. To be honest, to say it's all men, is ignorning that woman are the same. Men don't WANT to believe that women can cheat. Men don't WANT to believe that a woman could want anyone else but them. Whereas women are sort of raised thinking that men naturally want, need and DESERVE loads of women and loads of sex. Don't get me started on this 1 because I think all people are capable of it. To be honest, I don't know if you ever really CAN trust anybody but not just men, women also. You only need to talk to your friends and read these messageboards to see the disapointment, the hurt, the anger, lies and brokenhearts. Maybe it's not HUMAN NATURE who knows. I think we all crave the unconditional love our mothers gave us as we grow and we seek that in romantic partners - often coming up against disapointments.

 

I think deep down everybody wants someone to just want them and love them, even if they themselves want something/someone else.

[SupportGroupie]

Hey Nikki

Kudos to you for your wise and earnest post. You are well ahead of your years in thought and maturity and growth. I just wanted to say hello and thanks for the post. More power to you for being aware at such a young age.

 

Its cool to see younger people think about relationships and life openly and rationally. I was a basket case wild child at 19..lol that had no self awareness.

 

lol

hugs and happy holidays

Sg silly girl

[Nikki Sahagin]

Hey Nikki

Kudos to you for your wise and earnest post. You are well ahead of your years in thought and maturity and growth. I just wanted to say hello and thanks for the post. More power to you for being aware at such a young age.

 

Its cool to see younger people think about relationships and life openly and rationally. I was a basket case wild child at 19..lol that had no self awareness.

 

lol

hugs and happy holidays

Sg silly girl

 

Thankyou so much But I always say I am mentally mature and emotionally immature!

[FleshNBones]

Men are wired differently than women.. women can go on, even if they're not 'in love' anymore, without cheating.. most men can't.

Women tend to have a lot more support from family, and they usually have a lot more friends.

Most (if not all) men will cheat, given the opportunity and knowing they would never get caught..

Sounds like you are projecting a little bit of yourself into men in general.

I am absolutely sure about that.. the ones who say they wouldn't... either know they would never get another woman (probably they're too fat and ugly) or they're liars..

Some people hope that words speak louder than actions.

I am a cynic myself, and I try to avoid fat women in general for that reason. Men seem too disposable.

Men are soooo easy.. they don't always think with the right 'head'

This is one reason why I don't take women seriously.

[Nikki Sahagin]

I still don't get why it is socially acceptable and 'okay' for men to be this way but not women. I don't think it's attractive or acceptable in anyone. And I hate how our society gives some people free license to do whatever because they just can't 'help it'.

[Phateless]

I still don't get why it is socially acceptable and 'okay' for men to be this way but not women. I don't think it's attractive or acceptable in anyone. And I hate how our society gives some people free license to do whatever because they just can't 'help it'.

 

Depends on what circles you run in. If you're in one of the red states, I'm sure this is much more widely accepted. If you live in the San Francisco Bay Area like I do, double standards are a lot less pervasive.

[Lizzie60]

I still don't get why it is socially acceptable and 'okay' for men to be this way but not women. I don't think it's attractive or acceptable in anyone. And I hate how our society gives some people free license to do whatever because they just can't 'help it'.

 

 

It's never been 'socially acceptable' and 'okay' for men.. not in our society anyway... but it's been the reality for ages.. More men have been cheating.. till the beginning of time.. more women are cheating these days, due to their financial stability (it's not always been like that) but there are still less women cheaters than male cheaters..

 

but yes, in some societies, men do have a license to cheat.. in some cases, they can even have more than one W...

[Ayemtee]

I still don't get why it is socially acceptable and 'okay' for men to be this way but not women. I don't think it's attractive or acceptable in anyone. And I hate how our society gives some people free license to do whatever because they just can't 'help it'.

 

Um? It isn't socially acceptable and 'okay' for men to cheat. It seems to me like your upset because you can't cheat without being harped on, either way no matter who or what sex you are, if you cheat, you're a piece of ****. Stop being so envious of people who do cheat and just worry about yourself. I have a pair of dick and balls and I do not have an irresistable urge to go and slam some broad I see at the club, nor it is socially acceptable in my eyes to see a fellow male cheat on his SO. Hush all that nonsense duke.

[Nikki Sahagin]

Um? It isn't socially acceptable and 'okay' for men to cheat. It seems to me like your upset because you can't cheat without being harped on, either way no matter who or what sex you are, if you cheat, you're a piece of ****. Stop being so envious of people who do cheat and just worry about yourself. I have a pair of dick and balls and I do not have an irresistable urge to go and slam some broad I see at the club, nor it is socially acceptable in my eyes to see a fellow male cheat on his SO. Hush all that nonsense duke.

 

I don't want to cheat. But I think the fact that a lot of boys (rather than men, I guess THAT'S the difference) pat each other on the back for cheating whereas girls are torn to shreds for the same offence - is just odd. It's committing the same crime.

[PrincessPeach]

I don't want to cheat. But I think the fact that a lot of boys (rather than men, I guess THAT'S the difference) pat each other on the back for cheating whereas girls are torn to shreds for the same offence - is just odd. It's committing the same crime.

I know plenty of girls who pat each other on the back for cheating too (I've even seen it in this forum! ). That still doesn't make it okay or acceptable.

[Lizzie60]

I don't want to cheat. But I think the fact that a lot of boys (rather than men, I guess THAT'S the difference) pat each other on the back for cheating whereas girls are torn to shreds for the same offence - is just odd. It's committing the same crime.

 

Huh??? I don't know where you got that.. but most guys don't even talk about their cheating to anyone..

[Nikki Sahagin]

Huh??? I don't know where you got that.. but most guys don't even talk about their cheating to anyone..

 

Incorrect. Married men don't. Teenage boys do.

[EmperorR]

Maybe at oine point in my life long ago I would have cheated, but now ya right, after bein cheated on and left in the mud after being a faithful do it all fiance never. I don't care if i'm in a relationship with the ugliest creature in the world, and the finest woman ever came up to me and flirted I wouldn't.

[Trialbyfire]

The nature of cheating is odd. It seems to make sense that since two people are in a committed relationship, that cheating would be about the two people and their dynamics.

 

In actuality, for a large portion of cheating situations, it has nothing to do with one of the partners. It has to do with the cheating partner and who they are inside. They're not thinking about the person who they're cheating on. They're thinking about how good it makes them feel, that they still have it, and that someone else is stroking and feeding them.

 

Cheating is more about self-esteem, ego and selfishness, than it has to do with the primary relationship.

 

With this in mind, OP, choose your partners wisely. While there are never any guarantees in life, all you have to do is to look at the xMM who you cheated with and know that these are not the qualities you want in your next relationship. Solid relationships are built on honesty, trust, love and respect.

[Charles1978]

I skipped to the end, so I'm not sure what angles are being discussed. But for me... I'll never cheat. Never have, never will. I've been cheated on. That wasn't fun. I'm just not the cheating type. I'm extremely faithful and I'll always be that way.

[Gremio]

Is it really in mans nature to cheat and hunger for all other women?

 

Can a man be friends with a hot girl and not want to BOINK her....?

 

You can not generalize a sex. I'm a mid 20s males and I despise cheating. I would rather be dead than cheat on someone. I consider the other persons feelings before my actions in friendship or relationships.

 

I had a woman who I was very interested in stay over my house a few weeks back. She is a 10/10, a head turner that every man, even if he is with his wife, would stare at. The type where some guys would freeze up and be afraid to approach. We slept together (not sexually), flirted, teased each other, but I did not want to have sex with her. I was interested in more than sex with her.

 

Another example is when I was in a three year LTR. I would not even look at other women. I had zero interested with any other woman sexually except the woman I was with.

[nittanylion]

Not all men and women are cheaters, and most men and women are equally guilty of cheating. Every relationship is different. Ages, maturities, and experenices come into factors whether a person is having propensity to cheat.

 

However, the most important thing is love, communication, trust, and honesty in a relationship, without those ingredients, there is a high probabilities of partner likely to go stray in the relationship. Off course, cheating will not happen if couple are in a loving and happy relationship. It gives partner no reason to cheat. JMO!

[Trimmer]

Most (if not all) men will cheat, given the opportunity and knowing they would never get caught..

 

I am absolutely sure about that.. the ones who say they wouldn't... either know they would never get another woman (probably they're too fat and ugly) or they're liars..

Wow. Your opinion that all men will cheat, which by itself used to just be amusingly naive, has now evolved into vicious and offensive. Well, yes, I've always found women sexually attractive, but I've never cheated, nor, even in the face of at least one apparent offer, have I had to "struggle" to resist. I'm not fat or a liar, so I guess I must just be ugly then. Thanks for helping me narrow it down.

 

Huh??? I don't know where you got that.. but most guys don't even talk about their cheating to anyone..

So let me understand this, then. You claim that you are "absolutely sure" that "most (if not all) men will cheat," and your evidence for this grand and absolute proclamation is that, well, we can never be sure that it isn't true, so that proves it, right?

 

I believe now is the appropriate time for the rolling eyes...

[Lizzie60]

Well.. Trim... you're entitled to your opinion as I am with mine.. I've heard this from many men that I've not even been involved with..

 

I have also 'test' this theory and 'he' failed.. proclaiming he would never ever (never did, never will) cheat on his wife.. well... he was in my room that same night...

 

And some who proclaim they never or would never cheat, sometimes come back, under another username, to tell their story. (I should keep a 'record' of those )

 

You can roll your eyes all you want..

[mental_traveller]

Is it really in mans nature to cheat and hunger for all other women?

 

Can a man be friends with a hot girl and not want to BOINK her....?

 

I have known quite a few "hot" women who I didn't have much interest in having sex with. Personally I find my attraction to women, as long as they are not repulsively ugly, has little to do with their beauty. It all seems to be some pretty random animal attraction. I have had strong attraction and great sex with women who might rate 4/10, and I had a nearly sexless relationship for almost a year with a woman who all my friends considered gorgeous.

 

Maybe I'm in a minority, but pure prettiness doesn't seem to matter that much to me.

 

As for cheating, the only times I've felt any urge to do that was when I was extremely unhappy with the sexual element of a relationship. I could be dating Roseanne Barr but if she sucked dick like a champ and was amazing in bed, I'd be waking up with a smile on my face.

[mental_traveller]

Well.. Trim... you're entitled to your opinion as I am with mine.. I've heard this from many men that I've not even been involved with..

 

I have also 'test' this theory and 'he' failed.. proclaiming he would never ever (never did, never will) cheat on his wife.. well... he was in my room that same night...

 

And some who proclaim they never or would never cheat, sometimes come back, under another username, to tell their story. (I should keep a 'record' of those )

 

You can roll your eyes all you want..

 

It's extremely easy not to cheat - just don't make any monogamous promises. And if you did make one, break up as soon as you get so unsatisfied that the urge to cheat starts bothering you.

[Lizzie60]

It's extremely easy not to cheat - just don't make any monogamous promises. And if you did make one, break up as soon as you get so unsatisfied that the urge to cheat starts bothering you.

 

that would be the 'ideal' situation, I guess, 'get out before you cheat'.. but the reality is sooooo different.

[Trialbyfire]

Well.. Trim... you're entitled to your opinion as I am with mine.. I've heard this from many men that I've not even been involved with..

 

I have also 'test' this theory and 'he' failed.. proclaiming he would never ever (never did, never will) cheat on his wife.. well... he was in my room that same night...

 

And some of LoSers who proclaim they never or would never cheat, sometimes come back, under another username, to tell their story. (I should keep a 'record' of those )

 

You can roll your eyes all you want..

No doubt there are hypocrites everywhere.

 

 

Having said that, you're drawing an inaccurate conclusion, with statements wrought full of fallacies.

• In discussions with some men I know, they say they would cheat.
  
• I tested it on ONE man who said he would never cheat but he did cheat.
  
• Therefore, I draw my conclusion that all men would cheat through conceptual discussions with a few men I know and one incident, with one hypocrite.
  

There are approximately 3.3 billion males on this Earth. Even you lizzie, couldn't get all of them, no matter how many men you could do in one day. For that matter, it would shock me if you personally knew more than a thousand men who have cheated, which would be less than 0.00003% sampling. I would call you an outright liar, if you claimed it.