Jake Barnes Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 I would like to think that my vagina isn't the only attribute that attracts a man. Why have certain men not asked me on a second date then?I still had a vagina at that point, ya know?! I make men laugh damnit.. even if it is because of my own awkwardness and stupid jokes. I am more than just a vagina and a nice rack, OK?! you look a little bit like robert de niro
Taramere Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 I make my plumber laugh, apparently. Every time he speaks to me, he smirks as if he's trying to contain it. When I see that kind of thing, I try to figure what it is about me that the man is laughing at and then I exaggerate it slightly but try to avoid making it look deliberate. I'm not quite sure why I do it, other than that the sight of people trying very hard to contain their laughter is fun. If it's someone I have chemistry with, then it can become one of those mutual things where you're both trying to contain your laughter while you're speaking to eachother. It's probably a nervous thing. I don't think it's that hard to make men laugh. You just have to a) create an environment where people feel it would be inappropriate to laugh, and b) avoid behaving as though you're in on the joke. I think a lot of men just have a "women are never intentionally funny" gene, and you simply have to accept and work with that if you want to have a laugh with them. Humour's probably not something that it's wise to get dictatorial about.
Capricciosa Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Yeah, I can't believe how many times I've been laid just because of my gigantic ball of tin foil. Just don't try to use it as a condom! They don't like that thing shiny at all! And it will NOT prevent pregnancy... WTF?!?! Now that was funny! Funny means so many things, good sense of humor, attitude, perspective. I'm known to be able to see the humor in the darkest situations, for instance, and I use humor when I teach and when I write. I've been called 'quirky' of all things. On the other hand, I hardly ever tell a joke or try to get laughs by putting other people down. I did about a year of improv comedy, and found it easier to be intellectually funny than physically--quick wit vs clowning. Not many women want to be seen as clowns. So am I funny? I can be, and often am--given the right audience! But no pie in the face, please!
tanbark813 Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 I don't know why the women are getting defensive. Saying men are funnier than women isn't a slam on women. It's like saying women are more nurturing then men. That's just how it is. For some reason people seem to freak out when you suggest that men and women aren't EXACTLY the same.
melodymatters Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Yeah, I'm finding the blanket generalizations of some posters to be pretty offensive. I own a theatre company in which I write all my own shows. They are comedies. There is nothing more satisfying than hearing people laugh their azz off at YOUR material. I also perform in my own shows and comedy murder mysteries. I have been told ( and reviewed in newspapers) that i am an excellent comedic actress. So, if i write the material, I perfrom the material, and people laugh, and pay me money to watch, then I must be doing SOMETHING right !
Touche Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 No Mel. I think you only THINK you're funny!
Author prettybaby Posted December 19, 2008 Author Posted December 19, 2008 Oh, no. That's not why people are irritated. Someone can think guys are funnier, as a general rule. No prob. They can think that. But for someone to make the blanket statement that women are NEVER funny and only get laughs because a guy wants to get in their pants is just rude and disgusting. HUGE difference. Seriously, that was such an ignorant thing of him to say
melodymatters Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Yep. Must be only WOMEN watching your shows, or guys who wanna get in your pants. :lmao:
Taramere Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Yeah, I'm finding the blanket generalizations of some posters to be pretty offensive. I own a theatre company in which I write all my own shows. They are comedies. There is nothing more satisfying than hearing people laugh their azz off at YOUR material. I also perform in my own shows and comedy murder mysteries. I have been told ( and reviewed in newspapers) that i am an excellent comedic actress. So, if i write the material, I perfrom the material, and people laugh, and pay me money to watch, then I must be doing SOMETHING right ! Definitely. There are different types of funny people. From the sound of things you're an extrovert entertainer. I was at a party last night where there was a girl like that. Really good at telling anecdotes. Excellent timing, brilliantly comedic facial expressions. At one point it occurred to me that she must be a professional - and so I asked, and it turned out that she is a professional performer. I think it's more common to find men who have that "performer/entertainer" aura about them. Those personalities liven up a room and give out a lot of energy. It's nice, so people laugh at their stories to keep the atmosphere and the energy going. But it's not necessarily the kind of gut-wrenching, uncontrollable laughter you get when you're having a laugh with someone you really know and connect with. The latter type of "funny" is more down to individual tastes rather than whether a person has an entertainer style personality. For me, there are limits to where a comedian can go if they're employing a very extrover "entertainer" style. For instance, a loud voiced stand-up comedian telling jokes about child abuse does not make me laugh. I don't get that sense of extreme discomfort that encourages nervous, hysterical laughter. I just don't like it. I think it's yet another stand up comedian jumping on the latest "I'm so edgy" bandwagon to get cheap laughs about someone else's misery. But this made me cry with laughter the first time I saw it. I could write a thesis explaining why, but the initial response comes from a gut response of discomfort and hilarity. In real life I find that there are some people I meet who just have a bit of the Chris Morris satirical element about them. They don't generally rely on poking fun at established stereotypes in the way that a lot (not all, I know) of the more extrovert entertainers do. They don't get many laughs, but the people who do laugh laugh hard. And they (the satirists) as likely to be female as they are to be male. Edit: In the interests of equality. Not satire, but... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ALnBF3qGzL4&feature=related Hahaha. That's not you, is it Mel? Shame the clip leaves out the funniest part
carhill Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Could a woman pull off? I'd like to think so. Sometimes the most difficult humor is poking fun at oneself and one's gender... and conveying a message at the same time.
tanbark813 Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Sometimes the most difficult humor is poking fun at oneself and one's gender I disagree. That's the easiest route and one often taken, especially by fat comedians. If you make fun of yourself or a category to which you belong, it's hard to offend people. Plus it gains you a little bit of sympathy and makes it easier for people to laugh. A fat person making fun of fat people, a black guy making fun of black people, a man making fun of men, etc... are all safe topics. What is difficult is for a man to make fun of women, or a white person to make fun of black people, or a skinny person to make fun of fat people but still manage to make people laugh and not offend everyone to the point they leave the room. That requires quite the balancing act.
Taramere Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Why would you want humor to be offensive? There's got to be something extra in there. Whether it's an element of the surreal, or some revelation being triggered or just some ridiculous/unusual aspect to the whole thing that you can't help laughing at what's being said - even if you find it offensive. If the audience are people who are keen to show that they're a bit edgy, then I don't think offensive humour is a risk at all. I think it's an obvious path for a comedian to take. Someone with a lot of genuine comic talent can probably be offensive and get laughs from an audience who aren't at all interested in seeming edgy. People who'll laugh despite themselves because the comedian has tapped into some knowledge inside them that they haven't really explored, but suddenly recognise as a truth. A comedian who can give you that "I never thought about that, but he/she's right!!" feeling can seem almost like God for a second or two. I think you either laugh as an automatic response to that sensation, or you have to avoid/pretend to appreciate satire. There's no right or wrong about it. If you laugh, the offensive, unsafe aspect of the humour gives you that nervous "I shouldn't be laughing at this" aspect that results in even more hilarity.
tanbark813 Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Why would you want humor to be offensive? It doesn't have to be. Non-offensive humor is fine as well. Some offensive humor is technically offensive because it's stereotypical but there's still an element of truth to it (all stereotypes have some truth to them, otherwise they wouldn't be stereotypes) and the funniest humor is that which is true, or at least partially true. Plus, with how overly PC the world is these days, I personally find offensive topics refreshing or a release. You need--or at least I need--an outlet like that in a world where schoolkids now can get in trouble simply for hugging or high-fiving each other. But all that being said, I really like Brian Regan and he's probably the least offensive big name comedian out there.
carhill Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Would you call Steve Martin an offensive humorist? I've always admired his humor and talent....
tanbark813 Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Would you call Steve Martin an offensive humorist? I've always admired his humor and talent.... I love Steve Martin, and no, I wouldn't. I think you're missing my point though.
carhill Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 I'm actually exploring the nuances of it. The clip I referenced would be offensive to some and Steve never spoke a word. Or, would it? What is it about his aura/presence/delivery which makes something perhaps by itself offensive not offensive but insanely funny when it comes from him? I often have the same response when I hear Dolly Parton make fun of her plastic surgery and make otherwise lewd comments (in humor). Why can she "get away with it" and it be funny, but the same material, coming from someone else, be offensive and coarse? I find it fascinating
itgirlragdoll Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 My boyfriend and I have gotten to the point where we kind of feed off each other and make each other laugh. We can just lay in bed for hours making stupid comments and laughing together. I think both of us find that a positive trait in the other. However, I will say that in the beginning before we developed that kind of flow, he was the one making me laugh more frequently. I think guys find a woman who laughs at THEIR jokes and has an overall good sense of humour, attractive, and doesn't care as much if she herself is funny.
Alexappleton Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Yes, I am agree on that guys like women who make them laugh.In the if somebody is giving the laugh then it is better for us. Thank You
pandagirl Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 Though you wouldn't be able to tell from my posts here, I'm actually a pretty funny person. Among my friends I am the "funny friend." Just last night, I was out with some friends, and I asked the guys if my sense of humor is off-putting to guys. And they replied with: "Well, I can see how some guys might just think you're weird, but any guy who is intelligent and witty will appreciate you." I think some guys find really funny girls threatening, because having a sense of humor is more of a "masculine" trait -- you have to be assured, strong, and confident. It's true though. Most women are not funny in the way men are. Our gender just wasn't societally brought up to hone our comedic skills. Thankfully, I had an older brother to help me along. One of the last guys I dated, who was absurdly hilarious, told me on our second date: "You're funny...most girls aren't." I found that a strange thing to say to girl, but yet took it as a nice compliment.
Trialbyfire Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 I can honestly say that of the people I know in RL, it's about an even split between funny men and women. To generalize, I find that many but not all men, have a cruder sense of funny than women, a la body parts, body excretions, etc., where some women base their humour by leveraging off others. Sure, both of these styles can be funny at times but after a while, it gets pretty dull...same old, same old.
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