quankanne Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It's not the end of the world. you'd be amazed how many people will reveal how your witness to your faith made something click or inspired them to keep hoping and believing. Why would you willingly tell someone, "Hey, you ain't got the money, your services shouldn't be offered." Because that would be self-defeating your ministry as an evangelist who encourage people to hope Link to post Share on other sites
Author chris250 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 There's ways to go about spreading the gospel that do not cost money. Some suggestions are start your own ministry with your blogs on myspace. That's what I do. I don't collect money. I give the information out there and it's free. Besides nobody is forced to read my blogs or visit my page so nobody can accuse me of getting in their face and being pushy with the message. I have the right to write whatever I want in my blogs as long as it's nothing illegal. You can spread the gospel for free through you tube or other free services on the internet. A church building is not really necessary to spread the good news. You can leave gospel tracts at restaraunts. You don't need to buy any gospel tracts. Just write one up yourself. I used to do that years ago. Another suggestion is just going on about your life and not opening your mouth at all about the gospel unless someone asks questions that opens the door for you to share the gospel. If your lifestyle is an expression of the love of God then other people are going to see it and ask you some questions sooner or later. They will sense something about you. Link to post Share on other sites
Posco_Proudfoot Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 There's ways to go about spreading the gospel that do not cost money. Some suggestions are start your own ministry with your blogs on myspace. That's what I do. I don't collect money. I give the information out there and it's free. Besides nobody is forced to read my blogs or visit my page so nobody can accuse me of getting in their face and being pushy with the message. I have the right to write whatever I want in my blogs as long as it's nothing illegal. You can spread the gospel for free through you tube or other free services on the internet. A church building is not really necessary to spread the good news. You can leave gospel tracts at restaraunts. You don't need to buy any gospel tracts. Just write one up yourself. I used to do that years ago. Another suggestion is just going on about your life and not opening your mouth at all about the gospel unless someone asks questions that opens the door for you to share the gospel. If your lifestyle is an expression of the love of God then other people are going to see it and ask you some questions sooner or later. They will sense something about you. Umm, you spent years working up to a masters in theology to do that? If you were church that is the qualifications. A church also does much more for a community than personal blog does. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 not everyone has access to the internet, not everyone is literate, not everyone responds the same way to the kind of evangelization you claim to do. And not everyone uses their gift to share God in the same manner. technically, your blog is costing you money – the computer itself, the money to pay the electric bill to go on line, costs for any materials you purchase to support your writing; feeding and keeping alive the writer of your blog. And because no one can magically make those things happen just by saying "I must have this," you're probably pulling a job (or two) to make ends meet. So your employer(s) are indirectly funding you to evangelize by providing you with a living wage. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 And because no one can magically make those things happen just by saying "I must have this," you're probably pulling a job (or two) to make ends meet. So your employer(s) are indirectly funding you to evangelize by providing you with a living wage. Yeah, you were doing quite well until you got to this point. Chris has been saying from the beginning that people who want to evangelise should be able to fund their own way without relying on donations, and that's exactly what he's doing. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Posco_Proudfoot Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yeah, you were doing quite well until you got to this point. Chris has been saying from the beginning that people who want to evangelise should be able to fund their own way without relying on donations, and that's exactly what he's doing. Cheers, D. That would equal a ranting uneducated blog then. Those already exist. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 That has nothing at all to do with the point I was debating with quank. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Posco_Proudfoot Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 That has nothing at all to do with the point I was debating with quank. Cheers, D. You're debating? You're doing it wrong. If your funding yourself and using the internet, as Chris talked about, that would equal a blog or likeness of it. Pleases explain yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Author chris250 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 not everyone has access to the internet, not everyone is literate, not everyone responds the same way to the kind of evangelization you claim to do. And not everyone uses their gift to share God in the same manner. technically, your blog is costing you money – the computer itself, the money to pay the electric bill to go on line, costs for any materials you purchase to support your writing; feeding and keeping alive the writer of your blog. And because no one can magically make those things happen just by saying "I must have this," you're probably pulling a job (or two) to make ends meet. So your employer(s) are indirectly funding you to evangelize by providing you with a living wage. The difference is that I'm not going around asking for donations. I pay my electric and internet bills. I make it a point to pay for whatever materials I need for evangelism. I haven't quit my secular job and I don't intend to. Even if all methods of evangelism cost money some methods are much cheaper than others. Not everyone responds to street preaching or door to door evangelism either. As a matter of fact I would say more people would be resistant to that kind of evangelism. I have no sympathy for door to door evangelists when they get doors slammed in their faces. Now if they believe they are called by God to go door to door that's fine. They just should not expect any sympathy from me when they get yelled at and doors slammed in their faces. Why? because that kind of approach usually comes across as self righteous bigotry to the listening audience. There are classy ways to go about evangelism. I don't think street preaching or door to door preaching is very classy at all. Even leaving gospel tracts behind at restaraunts is not all that classy either but at least it's not so much "in your face" type evangelism. With writing blogs I feel safe. I don't think many would accuse me of getting in people's faces. Nobody's forced to come to my page. I'm not even going to go around making sure somebody reads the blogs. It's none of my business who may or may not be reading. I never know who or how many are reading it. For all I know some may read one or two sentences and stop. I don't have a donate option on my blog either. It's all free for them to read. Whatever needs to be paid for I already have it taken care of. The point I was making earlier wasn't to say that blog evangelism is the only way to go about it. I was saying there are plenty of cheaper ways as well as classy ways to evangelize. It is possible to spread the gospel throughout the entire planet without a church building. Actually these days I very rarely initiate a conversation with anyone about spiritual things. I think the Lord is really teaching me that it's not always necessary to preach the gospel with the use of words. Now if someone initiates a conversation about the things of God then I won't be afraid to speak my mind as far as my personal experiences with God. If my actions are reflecting the love of God in my workplace, school, friends, girlfriend, family members, public life, etc. then I really shouldn't have to say a word. They're going to see it and be attracted to the Christ that is being expressed through me. When Jesus commissioned His disciples to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature and make disciples I don't think He was implying that the use of words would always be necessary. Preaching at that time was more understood as communicating the love of God through the actions of our lives instead of trying to convert people to christianity. Link to post Share on other sites
Author chris250 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Umm, you spent years working up to a masters in theology to do that? If you were church that is the qualifications. A church also does much more for a community than personal blog does. I strongly disagree that a church does much more for a community than a personal blog. Besides the average church has an agenda to convert you to their religion. That's the only reason they reach out and befriend the community. If you refuse to convert to their religion then they will cease giving you any kind of support in your time of need. A typical church exploits the brokenhearted and helpless with their sermons on an angry God. Good luck finding a church that's going to bring comfort to your soul. It would be much better for brokenhearted souls to spend their time at happy hour in a bar than going to church listening about how God is angry with them and how God is going to get them one of these days if they don't modify certain behaviors. I am serious. There is nothing more damaging to the human mind than having it exposed to teachings on the wrath of God and hellfire. Getting drunk on alcohol at a bar is a real picnic compared to that. Jesus loves people. He loves them unconditionally and with an everlasting love whether they believe in Him or not. He blesses the lives of both believers & unbelievers. Nobody needs a degree in theology in order to spread the gospel. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 That has nothing at all to do with the point I was debating with quank. thank you for the support. Can I put in a "please stop reading at this point" flag or something at the point where I derailed my argument? :laugh: Not everyone responds to street preaching or door to door evangelism either. As a matter of fact I would say more people would be resistant to that kind of evangelism. true ... but some people truly do have a gift with this kind of preaching, and you never know when the Spirit is going to move someone. Nobody needs a degree in theology in order to spread the gospel. again, when the Spirit moves, there's no denying it's at work. However, people can easily be led astray by others who have faulty theology. I'd much rather have the 2,000 years of history of the Catholic Church at hand than some person who had a personal call to evangelize about something he/she has no idea about. Heck, we've got an ordained deacon at our cathedral parish who said the Holy Spirit revealed all to him one night in his science lab, and he was going to share the message. Not the Church's message, but *his* message. And that scares the crap out of me because then someone like that isn't acting as an agent of God/Jesus/HS, but proselytizing for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Pleases explain yourself. You first, since it's unclear as to what point you are trying to make. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Lets see your Blog then Chris.. Regards, Eve xx Link to post Share on other sites
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