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Nope, I didn't twist your post, just dramatized the silly argument that the rich guy doing commonsensical things such as being nice to the service industry employees is oh so much more adorable because of that and deserves more credit for that than the middle class dude :).

 

Nope, never said that.

 

And one would think that the difference between a 'generalized you' as a shortcut in an argument and a 'personified you' would be obvious to most people with college education. But, one would be obviously wrong.

 

What are you carping about?

 

This is now pointless. Why do you guys even care what our preferences are?

 

Suck it up. Life isn't fair, you know? Some people are more desirable to most than others. That's the way it is. Stop crying about it and make the most of what you have.

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What are you carping about?

 

This is now pointless. Why do you guys even care what our preferences are?

 

Suck it up. Life isn't fair, you know? Some people are more desirable to most than others. That's the way it is. Stop crying about it and make the most of what you have.

 

Hey, lighten up! Calm down! No need to stomp your little feet and throw your toys out of the pram! Etc

 

See, we can all patronise and belittle the other person when we don't feel like continuing the debate. There are other threads if you don't like this one little missy, no need to get your panties in a twist!

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Question for the ladies..

 

I understand money IS important. And obviously much more important to women when selecting a mate, than it is for men. Obviously because women still need to be taken care of, even if they claim they are independent.

 

So the question is this. What is it that you offer to land this man with the good salary, that is tall, kind,single, caring, handsome etc ? You do realize this man is a rarity, and in high demand from

 

A. Beautiful foreign women if he chooses.

B. Younger beautiful women

c. Just about any woman from any walk of life.

 

Since he makes a good income, why on EARTH would he need another woman's income? That means NOTHING to him. He most likely would rather have a woman that has more time to focus on him, and he can easily find this.

 

Or are you most likely planning to be knocked up, and then hoping for hefty child support payments after a divorce? I have heard MANY women admit this. Why do you think hundreds of women flock to NBA games? To get knocked up, then sue for lots of money. You are no different than them, but your playing field is just a bit different.. "Independent", yeah right.

 

What if all the men on this thread said " I need to be with a woman with 36ddd, and I will not settle for less". Obviously If the men then said "Oh, but it is not all about breast size, she also must have other traits. Sorry, we won't settle." We would not only sound illogical, but we would sound shallow, and as though we are in fantasy land.

 

But even the above would be more pure, as it is not about finding a partner to take away from or "share" what they worked so hard to accomplish. But you just feel completely entitled to this for some reason..

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Would you agree that women in general are more likely to prioritise 'a good salary' when imagining or selecting their ideal mate than men?

 

Yes. It's just a matter of where on that list...

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Where on the list?

 

Not sure what that means. Men do not think of "lists", or think in such a cold manner. You meet a girl, attracted to her or not, if she treats you well, you keep her. Simple.

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Question for the ladies..

 

I understand money IS important. And obviously much more important to women when selecting a mate, than it is for men. Obviously because women still need to be taken care of, even if they claim they are independent.

 

So the question is this. What is it that you offer to land this man with the good salary, that is tall, kind,single, caring, handsome etc ?

 

 

Can't really help you on that one seeing as I earn more than my H (and more than previous partners).

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Anne, and how do you feel about that? Is it acceptable? Do you wish you landed a higher earner? Did you "settle" as so many women on this thread claim they would not, or do not have to do?

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I am not talking about prostitution, im talking about going with someone you dont actually fancy, because they have money/security.

 

 

No I would never do that. It's just awful IMO. I think they call those types of woman "Gold diggers".

 

 

 

 

 

 

One was a dairy farmer who asked if he and his teen-aged daughter could move in with me.

 

For some reason I can't picture you on a farm.:laugh:

 

Mea:)

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Well, I think every woman on this thread already stated they would NOT be with a man who DOES NOT have money. Unless of course he was in his last year of studying before becoming a doctor.

 

But they are not gold diggers. They just "won't settle".

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i'm gonna have to answer YES. I'm a guy and i would fk a woman for money.

 

i'm sorry, but i read 11 pages of this thread and figured someone would put this answer. i'm kind of broke at the moment, so i won't completely rule this out yet.....

kidding.

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Anne, and how do you feel about that? Is it acceptable? Do you wish you landed a higher earner? Did you "settle" as so many women on this thread claim they would not, or do not have to do?

 

Does not bother me in the slightest. Just wanted to point out that your statement on all women finding a high earning male was wrong.

 

 

 

Well, I think every woman on this thread already stated they would NOT be with a man who DOES NOT have money. Unless of course he was in his last year of studying before becoming a doctor.

 

But they are not gold diggers. They just "won't settle".

 

Again wrong. Never said that at all.

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Well, I think every woman on this thread already stated they would NOT be with a man who DOES NOT have money. Unless of course he was in his last year of studying before becoming a doctor.

 

But they are not gold diggers. They just "won't settle".

 

Well for what it's worth my personal experience has proven this true-ish. Now I'm older and presumably less pretty but I have a lot more romantic options. The difference? I earn about 20x more now than then mostly, or maybe I'm just a lot more charming now. Who knows.

 

My question to you is even if this is true so what? I don't fault a zebra for being striped. Either the women who surround you are what you want or not, but I don't see the point you're making here.

 

What is the goal of this conversation?

 

 

 

Does not bother me in the slightest. Just wanted to point out that your statement on all women finding a high earning male was wrong.

 

Maybe, but it's a fact that most women marry up financially and I doubt the population of this forum is deviates that significantly from the norm.

 

How many unemployed men have you seriously dated?

 

I won't hesitate to date a woman simply because she has no job and no prospect of a career. I'm not sure most women can say that, but again I'm not putting women down because of it. I embrace it in the same way I enjoy the herd of zebra mentioned above.

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Well for what it's worth my personal experience has proven this true-ish. Now I'm older and presumably less pretty but I have a lot more romantic options. The difference? I earn about 20x more now than then mostly, or maybe I'm just a lot more charming now. Who knows.

 

My question to you is even if this is true so what? I don't fault a zebra for being striped. Either the women who surround you are what you want or not, but I don't see the point you're making here.

 

What is the goal of this conversation?

 

Maybe, but it's a fact that most women marry up financially and I doubt the population of this forum is deviates that significantly from the norm.

 

How many unemployed men have you seriously dated?

 

I won't hesitate to date a woman simply because she has no job and no prospect of a career. I'm not sure most women can say that, but again I'm not putting women down because of it. I embrace it in the same way I enjoy the herd of zebra mentioned above.

 

 

Well, I, and just about every man I have ever known understand that this is the nature of women.

 

My points?

1. Why is it so hard for women to admit this in a direct manner?

2. Do they realize things have not changed much, and since they still seek security, naturally men also seek many of the same old fashioned things women used to offer? Seems they want to be taken care of, but also be "independent" or to be looked at as "equal".

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Well, I, and just about every man I have ever known understand that this is the nature of women.

 

My points?

1. Why is it so hard for women to admit this in a direct manner?

2. Do they realize things have not changed much, and since they still seek security, naturally men also seek many of the same old fashioned things women used to offer? Seems they want to be taken care of, but also be "independent" or to be looked at as "equal".

 

Yes, but so what? Why the angst? So the zebra thinks that it's wearing polka dots, and wonders why it need s anti-depressants; we can still try to admire their pretty striped herds.

 

I just don't see what you hope to accomplish other than vent a lot of misplaced anger. If you don't care to deal with it do what corporate America does - go offshore to recruit or negotiate harder.

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I am not talking about prostitution, im talking about going with someone you dont actually fancy, because they have money/security.

 

Is this what women resort to?

 

I think that many relationships may be based on this, as it is very rare to find a man that you want to get physical with who also has the security factor. They are either good looking bad boys that have no money or nerds with money?

 

Is this true?

 

 

I'm tall, slender, attractive and very successful, but I've never been boinked for my money... yet... but you never know with chix. I was even happily married to a rich girl, a man's best defense against gold-diggers. So I'd have to say no, girls won't boink you for $ although they might marrry you.:p

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Been reading the posts here and I figured I would throw down my 2 cents.

 

I have to admit, many of the posts annoy me. People are far more complicated then what money they make or what schooling they have done.

 

Age has a lot to do with how picky you are with the opposite sex. The late 20's to mid 30's seem the worst. I have never met such picky people until I hit my 30's. Im guessing its to do with that "last chance to find Mr Right and breed" thing?

 

Money? Well anyone who judges someone on what they earn without getting to know that person needs a good slapping. Seriously, people are NOT what they do for a living. They are not their car, their house or their wallet. I am yet to meet someone who is very well paid who is even near the quality of a person as some of my poorer friends and I doubt I ever will.

 

Something like 95% of a country work on the normal salary. The other 5% run business's and are wealthy. I think 1% are billionaires. Anyone who works per\hour has to be at work to earn the dollar. Don’t work, don’t get paid. Most people cant spend money properly anyway and that’s a fact. You work per hour then I don’t care what your job is. The fact you HAVE to go to work just sux and makes everyone equal in my books.

 

Stress comes into play with the above too. Many high paying jobs cause more stress too. This effects your health and the sexual relationship you have with your partner. Indeed it can have an effect on the lower class too but thats the point, high income earners are still effected and can still create a negative lifestyle at home due to their careers.

 

Intelligent people or just those who did a university degree\masters etc can still be idiots. I live with two of them. Without wisdom, intelligents means very little. 2 of my flat mates are very, very intelligent however if I am asleep they fail to realise that if you walk up and down the hallway with boots on, yell\talk outside my door\window or turn on the lights, this could possible wake me up. This is only a fraction of the silly things they do.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents. Love is love no matter what you own, what you do or who you are. Opposites can attract, poor marry rich and smart fall in love with the dumb. If you are going to judge people on little things like money and certificates then all the best to you. You dont deserve that great person you could have had yesterday. :)

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I have another realization that shnuggles made me think of.

 

The reality of many high earning professional men is that they have to travel for work. Many are gone 5 days out of the week, and often times are away much more than they are at home. They are also often times under enormous stress. Little time to spend with children and be a father..

 

So ladies, must you also find that tiny tiny tiny % of men who fit all of the other qualifications and work from one location without traveling? Or are you content to be alone, and just collect a paycheck to spend?

 

And you do realize this tall, handsome, wealthy, traveling man will most likely not be faithful to you. Have you figured that into your calculations of your perfect man, or does collecting his paycheck balance that out?

 

Just how much are you willing to sacrifice for your quest of money/things? Or have you watched too many movies and believe there are no trade offs, and you do not have to "settle"?

 

What is more important? A big paycheck? Or a sex life, sharing a bed every night, less stress, and a father who is around for his kids? Which will you sacrifice, as we all know getting everything you want is nearly impossible.

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I have another realization that shnuggles made me think of.

 

And you do realize this tall, handsome, wealthy, traveling man will most likely not be faithful to you. Have you figured that into your calculations of your perfect man, or does collecting his paycheck balance that out?

 

Just how much are you willing to sacrifice for your quest of money/things? Or have you watched too many movies and believe there are no trade offs, and you do not have to "settle"?

 

And what makes you think that a short, ugly, poor, lazy man who doesnt travel for work is going to be faithful?

 

And yes it actually may lessen the pain if you get a better house/better things and he is unfaithful.

 

What about all these bad boys who are to stubborn to work for anyone else or have cr-p jobs? What about the normal run of the mill player? In my view the rich player is better then the poor one.

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Been reading the posts here and I figured I would throw down my 2 cents.

 

Seriously, people are NOT what they do for a living.

 

Oh yes they are...........

 

 

 

Intelligent people or just those who did a university degree\masters etc can still be idiots. I live with two of them. Without wisdom, intelligents means very little. 2 of my flat mates are very, very intelligent however if I am asleep they fail to realise that if you walk up and down the hallway with boots on, yell\talk outside my door\window or turn on the lights, this could possible wake me up. This is only a fraction of the silly things they do.

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What a silly analogy. Intelligent and unintelligent people may do this...its not a question of how much brain power you have - its a question of selfishness.

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And what makes you think that a short, ugly, poor, lazy man who doesnt travel for work is going to be faithful?

 

And yes it actually may lessen the pain if you get a better house/better things and he is unfaithful.

 

What about all these bad boys who are to stubborn to work for anyone else or have cr-p jobs? What about the normal run of the mill player? In my view the rich player is better then the poor one.

 

Well the tall, handsome, rich guy is almost guaranteed to be cheating often. The poor, short, fat, lazy man will not have younger and hotter women THROWING themselves at him. But at least you are being honest. Money matters most.

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well money is important, i wish it wasnt. I wish i could accept the poorer nerdy guy BUT unfortunatly i cannot.

 

Its a hardship, somthing difficult to adjust to.

 

I have met poor badboys who get women - they get pretty girls who they make pay for things.

 

Any man can treat you badly. A richer man will do it on a different scale, but at least you will have something to show for it.

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Well since it is about money, what is it about for men? I am guessing a young body. So if you find a much older guy, you should be ok. A guy your age should trade you in for a newer version once you hit menopause.

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Although you say it is not prostitution thats exactly what it is. Wheather you fancy him or not. Selling your body in exchange for money or other is prostitution.

 

Yes.. We are all prostitutes in a way selling ourselves for money like working whatever but selling the most intimate thing a person has is wrong.

 

WTF is wrong with people today? Doesn't anyone hold anything sacred anymore???

 

My ex turned to being a call girl to support herself despite my offerings to help her.

 

The ramifications and fallout and mess that can create is not something u want to deal with

 

Even if you are thinkingabout this with only one guy it is not worth it in the long run

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I have also considered becoming an escort - it pretty well paid?

 

So what is worse - allowing this man to pay my bills or becoming an escort. At least with an escort you can leave the situation behind, you dont have to live iwth it.

 

I think we live in times where we have to consider other options. Being virtuous and clean isnt going to pay my bills. Working 16 hour manual shifts wouldnt even cover my rent so i need another option.

 

I dont feel good about it at all. When I first met this man my heart sunk - I just do not find him attractive at all. Once he gave me a hug good bye - i felt utterly repulsed.

 

He is rich and succesfull and I think he may even be faithful, he just wants to be loved. I feel like a con artist. I know I will never stay with him but I need to get out of this mess.

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TBF, going back to the valet thing you were talking about, i have a similar story...

 

My ex and I are at the movies, and there was a group of kids disrupting the whole theater...

 

I say to the kids, angrily "could you shut the hell up, we're trying to watch the movie." the kid got offended, and said i was trying to "play" him, and wanted to fight. I politely apologized for getting angry, and said lets just drop it and enjoy the movie. The kid i talked to wanted to continue, but his friends calmed him down after that, and my ex and i enjoyed the rest of the movie.

 

After the movie, she said the confident, polite way i handled the situation was one of the sexiest things she'd ever seen me do...

 

Women love confidence...

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