poemsandpeaches Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I am meeting my new beau in a month or so and am trying to lose 20lbs.. I am 5'4 130lbs and proportional..I wish I could post my pic but have no clue... I am actually heading to my aerobics class..where I will stretch..and run for about 1/2 hour then do 200 crunches and run tradmill for 15 minuts..If I do this 4 times a week plus drinking only liquids and no snacking or eating..Do you think I'll lose the weight.. Only people who have experience reply with advice.. Thank you and no hard feelings.. Link to post Share on other sites
wideawake Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Originally posted by poemsandpeaches I am meeting my new beau in a month or so and am trying to lose 20lbs.. I am 5'4 130lbs and proportional..I wish I could post my pic but have no clue... I am actually heading to my aerobics class..where I will stretch..and run for about 1/2 hour then do 200 crunches and run tradmill for 15 minuts..If I do this 4 times a week plus drinking only liquids and no snacking or eating..Do you think I'll lose the weight.. Only people who have experience reply with advice.. Thank you and no hard feelings.. Sorry, but I don't really think your goal is possible, nor a healthy one to undertake. You stated that you're already 'proportional' so I'll take that to mean that you're just a little over-weight and looking to lean up a bit. This being the case, (the fact that you're not really obese) than you'll have a tendency to lose fat slower than if you were much larger with a higher body fat percentage. I would think that anywhere from 4-8lbs of fat loss would be the upper limits. And to be honest, I don't think starving yourself ('drinking only liquids and no snacking or eating') will do anything but make you sick, make you lose MUSCLE and make you look much worse. You need to supply your body with good healthy food that is perhaps about 400 calories under your 'maintenance' level (the amount of calories you body needs just to function on a daily basis). Drop those calories to far under maintenance and your body will go into a starvation mode and do everything it can to hang onto every last fat cell. I think you should continue with your exercise, but you need to build a balanced diet with a subtle calorie restriction to lose FAT. The method you've stated above is a recipe for disastor. Peace, Link to post Share on other sites
Tony T Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I have experienced the diet you prescribe for yourself but each person's body reacts differently so my experience may not be yours. I also want to say that such rapid weight loss as you seek can be dangerous for some people and should only be undertaken with a doctor's oversight. Additionally, such rapid weight loss as you propose holds a very high possibility of even greater weight gain in the future as well as other physical complications. And it will make it much more dificult for you to lose weight in the future if you are one of the 95 percent of people who lose weight fast and gain the weight back and more. Now, the exercise is ideal. Drinking a lot of water is ideal. Not eating is dangerous and could cause you serious complications which could lead to low blood sugar, fainting, and other serious problems. I'm not even recommending somebody do as little as what I'm going to tell you here but if you want rapid weight loss this one time: Eat some fruit at breakfast (a banana would be good) and take an excellent multivitamin. A nice salad without cheese is great for lunch. Three oz. of lean meat for dinner or a small piece of broiled seafood, such as flounder or salmon. No snacks. Go low on carbohydrates. To do this, you will have to clean up your kitchen of all snack foods or else you will go crazy and binge in your second week. Once a week, treat yourself to one cup of sherbert or low calorie ice cream. You did not say if the liquids you are planning on drinking are low calorie nutrition drinks. If they are, that's a plus but still dangerous if that's all you're going to be taking in. You can substitute some low calorie nutrition drinks for one of your small meals each day. You must eat the minimum because your body needs fuel to operate and exercise and if you are going to the gym you can work off some of the extra pounds but you must also present the body with new forms of nutrition as well. Your body is shocked in a very negative way by the sudden jolt of such dramatic diet change. Just remember, there are 3500 calories in every pound. So if you count your calories in and out, you can mathiematically determined how many pounds you will lose. For instance, to lose a full 20 pounds in 30 days, you will have to expend 70,000 calories more than you take in. Doing so in such a short period of time will be extremely dangerous and possibly life threatening if you suffer from certain heart or other abnormalties you may not eve be aware of. What this means is that if you burn about 400 calories a day in exercise (on average) and considering your normal body consumption of 1500 to 2000 calories per day (just to live on) and if you reduce your daily caloric intake to the very minimum required to keep up your exercise regimen, say 1,000 calories,....you do the math but you will come up way short. I urge you to see a doctor before you do this. It would be much better if you would see a nutritionist, or work with a personal trainer at the gym, and stay supervised during this time. You won't find one doctor or nutritionist in the universe who would advise you to lose weight this fast. Again, this kind of quick weight loss could be life threatening....but maybe not for you. But it could have other consequences. IF YOU MUST DO WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING CONSULT WITH A MEDICAL DOCTOR FIRST!!! I was able to lose about 30 pounds but I had to eat the minimum and it took me several months. I gained it back and more and decided to take the slower route...and now the weight has remained off. I had a friend who starved herself as you are planning to do and she died. Everything I am telling you is based on my own personal experience and observation. You could have a different experience...but see a doctor first. Only a doctor will understand your metabolism and be best able to advise you. Link to post Share on other sites
aquaria127 Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I can certainly understand wanting to look good for someone, first impressions and all that. I am meeting my new beau in a month or so and am trying to lose 20lbs.. can I take this to mean that you are wanting to lose weight because you are meeting him? Are you going to beat yourself up and feel crappy if you can't attain this nearly impossible and not very healthy goal? What if he doens't quite measure up to your expectations? If you are going to take advice, I just want to say, please don't stop eating. You know that getting into a regimen of exercise and eating healthy can help you get more "in shape." What you need to show your new boyfriend is that you are confident and proud about who you are. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Please listen to Tony. Don't try to lose that much weight so fast. My mom was your height and she looked terrific at 120 lbs. I wanted to ditch 15 extra lbs that landed on me. I've done it by making sure I eat only when I'm hungry and I stop when I'm full. I'm also exercising, but I'm starved when I get home afterward and I definitely eat again then. None of my meals are huge, though because I quit eating once I'm not hungry. If I have food left over, I put it in the fridge and eat it next meal. It took me about two months to lose and it's stayed off. I've done this once or twice before over the years and it's worked every time. I definitely second the idea of getting rid of the junk food in your house. It is so easy to resort to it when you're hungry and if you only have good stuff around (fruits, veg, healthy food), you'll eat that instead. I'm not big on counting calories, but it's worth it to know the calorie counts of some foods. Ice cream, sadly, is one of the worst possible foods - a small serving has huge amounts of calories in it. By the way, milk has been associated in more than one study with weight loss and fat loss. I have found that milk helps take the edge off hunger. I'd suggest drinking 1% milk with meals. It doesn't add that many calories, it helps you feel full, and it seems to be very good for people. Link to post Share on other sites
kroset Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I definately don't think trying to lose 20 pounds in a month is a good - or healthy idea. People that lose weight slowly, and by eating meals (not starving themselves) and exercising regularly keep the weight off better than those on fad diets - especially those that you are starving yourself. Basically, by not eating much in a month - your body will go nuts after the month is over and you start eating again. You will put weight back on faster than you ever imagined!!! I recommend shooting to lose a pound or two a week and exercising and eating good, healthy meals. Sure, you CAN lose 20 pounds in a month - people do it on "Survivor" all the time. But it really is a BAD and UNHEALTHY idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 20lbs in one month is not feasible. That is more of a 4-6 month goal. It's also suspect that you are even in need of such reduction. There is nothing wrong with being conscious of one's fitness level and striving to improve it, but one must be realistic. I would need more information to be more specific. I will say that activity program is a huge waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites
Author poemsandpeaches Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 I eat a light lunch and exercise for atleast 2 hrs during the day..and because I get home so late I often ti,e skip dinner because I don't want to go to bed with a full stomach *yuck* Breakfast? I'm not really a breakfast person..I might drink orange juice....and call it a morning... Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 You really need to eat. Breakfast is very important. You are running your body on nothing, and that will lead to problems. Think of a car - needs gas. The eating and exercise pattern you describe sounds like that of a person on her way to an eating disorder. You can't possibly be taking in enough calories to keep your body healthy. Nothing is worth sacrificing your health for and you will win no points with this guy by being a fanatic about starving yourself. I think it's time to see a physician and ask for a healthy diet/exercise plan. You WILL harm yourself if you continue this way. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Everyone said the same things I would say - except that I've had two doctors tell me that rapid loss was not a bad thing -- if its done right. The faster one can get the weight off the better for the whole body & especially the heart - but only if its done in a healthy manner. I hate eating breakfast too - I have to force myself to eat in the morning. But having 5 or 6 small meals a day vs. 1 or 2 meals is MUCH better for you and will help you to regulate your metabolism so that fat loss is consistent and you can feed your muscles. Know that with a lot of exercise you are building muscle strength and sometimes muscle mass, and since muscles are dense a one inch cube of muscle is going to weight more than a one inch cube of fat. In this case you can't count on your scale to tell you if you are doing any good! When I dieted it looked like I was actually gaining weight on the scales, but my clothes were fitting looser and looser - because I was building muscle mass while losing fat. That will hold true for almost everyone who diets and exercises as you described. Having said that, I will say to aid in your health improvement, drink more ice cold water. Make sure it is ice cold. If you can't stomach a full breakfast - then try some kind of engery or granola breakfast bar - give your body some fuel to keep your metabolism up. Eat lighter meals, but eat more often. Don't starve yourself or skip a meal because you are saving up for a dinner out. Just eat less at the dinner and drink more water along with the meal. Timing is as important as counting calories and fat. Look at how your clothes fit, and how you are feeling overall and don't rely on a scale to tell you if you are doing any good. Ignore the scale for a while and when you begin to notice the change in your clothes then you can weigh. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
wildfire4689 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 The Atkins Diet.....I did it and lost 19 lbs in a month....some lose more and some lose a little less....but it really works!!! http://www.atkinscenter.com Link to post Share on other sites
Author poemsandpeaches Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 a friend of mine.. also tried introducing me to this diet.. I'm thinking of trying it Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Oh yes...you lose 19lbs. More than half of it is water. Seriously....this preoccupation is not healthy. The approach is unsound for any fitness goals. Safe and efficient loss of bodyfat takes time. There is no sound method of rapid FAT loss that will be anywhere near healthy. If you really want to improve your fitness, you need to slow the hell down. 2 hours a day is far more exercise than anyone needs...but then again, what you are doing isn't really exercise. If you reset your goals to something more reasonable, then I can outline a more appropriate course of action. Link to post Share on other sites
wiseluv34 Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 I once lost weight quickly, just by not eating and it wasn't healthy. I eventually lost my appetite, my parent and family had to start forcing and encouraging me to eat. I also exercised until my bones ached, but it didn't last. I gained some of it back, but I've never been at that very fat stage anymore. NOW, I've learned that having good healthy foods, is far better than the "starving" mode. it's healthy to eat more veggies, fruit, lean meats, and whole grains. cut sugar intake down, to lose fat. but have your splurge day so you will not feel deprived. i've lost weight, by cutting down on my carbs, and eating smaller meals. it's hard for me, b/c i LOVE chocolates! so, i have some once in a while. also, drink plenty water b/c it flushes the fats out. cut your fat down to 20-30 percent, b/c fatty foods have many calories. exercise, but don't overdo it. also, the Atkins diet is a killer, your cholesterol level will rise..and that means TROUBLE! so, cut down on sugar/fats and you'll start losing weight. good luck! WHATEVER YOU DO, DO IT FOR YOU...AND NOBODY ELSE***** Link to post Share on other sites
sonofhud Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 I believe losing 1-2 pounds is the only healthy way to lose weight, from what I've read. So thats like maybe 5 pounds in 20 days? Link to post Share on other sites
kumi Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 I've tried many diets. They never worked because my goals were always unrealistic: Lose 20lbs in a month mainly. It is possible to lose that much and more in one month. I had to stop eating...sometimes I'd just eat some beef or turkey jerky, and I only drank water. I'm quite overweight, so I'm guessing that's why that diet didn't kill me. The thing is, I lost about 11lbs in one week (ONE WEEK), I'm not kidding you. So for some reason I thought, "Hey I can lose this much in another week and have my goal done". I didn't look any different, I was miserable and hungry all the time...drinking lots of water and not eating very much does get the weight off, but I think it's just weight...not fat. That's not what I really wanted for myself. I don't care what the scale tells me, I care what the mirror tells me. Trying to lose 20lbs in one month? Possible, but not a good idea. You should not worry about how much you weigh, I definately think your exercising is a supreme idea...it'll make you feel better (I always feel much better about myself after I've worked out, even if I don't look any different, or weigh any less) and it'll make you healthier. You shouldn't want to lose weight for anyone else but yourself...the whole time I was trying to lose weight was because I wanted my now-ex-boyfriend to find me more attractive. That's why I couldn't stay on any diet. You need to do this for yourself. If you're not unhappy with the way you look, don't change it. You're just barely overweight as it is... One more thing, please don't lose weight because you want to look better. You should lose weight because you want to be healthy. In my experience, and my friend's and family member's experiences we always just wanted to lose weight because we didn't like what we saw in the mirror, or what we saw on the scale, and for some reason none of us could ever keep the weight we wanted to off. But then a few of the people that I'm talking about decided one day that they wanted to be healthy. They didn't want to die an early age because of the things they fed themselves, and being lazy and not exercising. I mean the things you put in your mouth is such an easily controlled thing yet for some reason none of us seem to have the willpower to control it. But it was when they decided that they wanted to be HEALTHY...I mean when I was younger I could run around all day and not even be fazed...now I run for like 1minute and I need to use my inhaler. So I finally decided a few days ago that I'm tired of this. I used to be very athletic and I thoroughly enjoy playing lots of different sports...but my health is holding me back, I just don't exercise and I am constantly eating fast food...For the past few days I have completely stayed away from anything fried, last night for dinner I had a small piece of baked chicken with some rice and veggies. I am not drinking anything but water (I'd go for a little milk but I'm lactose intolerant), that will really help (cutting down on soda really helps shed the fat), and I'm using my mom's old exercising tapes (you'll laugh at this one -- but they're Richard Simmon's 'Sweatin' to the Oldies') once or twice a day (so maybe 1-2hrs of exercise) so I get in a workout that's good for someone of my health. I'm not gonna bother weighing myself as I venture on with this new diet. I think checking the weight also held me back a little. When I see that I've lost a lot of weight I get all happy and start to binge a little thinking "it'll be ok, I lost all this weight, I can eat just a little of the good stuff", and when I see that I've gained a lot of weight or haven't lost a thing I think "well what's the point of working out or going on a diet when it doesn't even work?", so maybe you should keep that in mind too. Stay away from the scale, it's evil!! Anyway, good luck to you, whatever you decided, I strongly agree with Tony's post so I hope you really take what he(or she, sorry) says to mind and heart, and I definately think you should talk to a nutritionist or maybe even some people at the gym that you workout at, I'm positive they can have good advice for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Baubles Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 why don't you just shoot for 1/2 - 1 pound a week...at 130 you probably look good now anyway! When i've wanted to look a lil extra thin before donning a bathing suit or a new dress, i find it helps to limit salt intake and carbs to reduce bloating a couple days before the day. don't stress yourself w/ the weight- if you're starving you're probably just losing fluid and you'll be irritable when you see him. Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Here's a height/weight chart: http://www.weightchart.org/ According to it, you don't really need to lose weight. It's okay if you lose weight for health, but if you're already in that weight zone, then it's not a good idea to try to change it. I read it as if you were trying to impress your beau. I tried working out 2 hours a day once. All it did was made me tired and sleep more, which interfered with my work schedule. If you think you're weak, then look at athletic training as an alternative to simple fat loss. Be safe. Link to post Share on other sites
Girlie Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 I really don't have a ton to add, except - take it from someone who has battled eating disorders - EAT. Sure, you can lose weight fast if you only eat lunch everyday. However, it's not healthy to lose weight by not eating and excersing too much for the amount of food you are taking in. If that's not a good enough reason for you (and it should be), taking off weight quickly by cutting meals out and not supplying your body with the proper nutrients can make you look very unattractive. It's not good for your hair, your skin, your nails, your teeth, etc. It's just not good. Your body needs proper nutrition to look healthy and "attractive." I don't want to sound too cautious, but cutting meals out can lead to some very horrific things, including not being able to stop cutting meals out even when you've met your initial goal. Be careful. Link to post Share on other sites
lost_in_chgo Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 You can lose weight rapidly by cutting carbs and exercising heavily. Continue to eat vegetable, juice etc. Count the calories. If you take in about 1200 calories a day and walk 6 miles you lose a pound every two days. You'll also clean your system out pretty quickly, which may drop some extra weight. You really should plan on taking a few days off each week and eating normally. That means 2000 calories. You are going to be emotionally affected by a program like this though. Aggression, depression etc. Be ready for that. If you lower your carb intake, your body will burn the carbs. If you are muscular, you need to exercise every other day to maintain muscle. The weight chart someone posted is for like 0% muscle mass. It's way low. The marine corp standard is about 20lbs heavier. WebMD has a weight loss program too, it runs about 5 lbs heavier that that one. See your doctor and supplement with vitamins. Your doctor is going to tell you not to do rapid weight loss. It's really not a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
yogi-udo Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 But you can definitely lose some weight in 1 month. Exercise every day, stay away from carbs, such as french fries, pasta, rice etc. For example. Make sure you eat some protien in there too. I would suggest you do a combination of running (about 1-2 hours a day) and weights (no more then 1 hour a day) Stay away from pops, snacks etc. When you do eat, eat very lightly. NO CARBS. You should find that this combination, combined with a good diet, and alot of sleep will work. Do not eat anything after 6pm, and for dinner try a weight loss shake. Lift weights the in morning, FOLLOWED BY a BIG breakfast, small lunch, no dinner (1 piece of fruit and meal replacement shakes only) ALOT OF CARDIO then goto bed immediatly. You can enhance this effect by taking metabolic ehancers such as Cayenne pepper. This diet will allow you to safely lose 10-15 lbs a month Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 NO CARBS. You need carbs. Your brain runs on carbs only. Besides, the no-carb, high-protein diet can be hell on your kidneys. Not a good idea to just start on this no-carb foolishness without getting a checkup to make sure your kidneys are in great shape first. Better yet, just eat sensibly from all food groups but avoid high-calorie, high-saturated fat stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
yogi-udo Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Eat sensibly is very important I cant stress how important it is to skip dinner, and have a larger than normal breakfast. Do you know why moimeme? Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Actually, you are supposed to have light meals ever four hours or so for the best control of your metabolism. Skipping dinner is just as bad as skipping breakfast. There are a lot of half-baked theories about diets; if you dig deep enough you'll find they don't hold up under scrutiny. Your body doesn't care what time it is; it needs fuel to operate, just like a vehicle. People say don't eat before bed. All my life, I've had snacks just before going to bed and my weight remains just fine. It is just a matter of not pigging out and staying away from very high-calorie stuff except for occasional treats. No magic. No diets. No tricks. Really, the best diet control is your wallet. Don't buy the junk, the fast food, the unhealthy stuff. Then you don't have it available and you eat the good stuff you have on hand. Refuse to spend money on eating out; take your own stuff or buy only salads. It's easy to do. Link to post Share on other sites
yogi-udo Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 your body does not use an equal amount of energy throughout the day. It uses more energy during "peak times" between 9 am and 4 pm. In addition, energy used in the evenings which is not used (because you are sleeping) is turned into fat. Anyone who has a serious weight problem has a problem ordering fatty dinners in the middle of the night specifically. Link to post Share on other sites
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