Fat Girls are Unattractive

[Green]

Green, you should have added some controls... made all the girls about the same age, not included actresses, and x'ed out their faces so people wouldn't judge on their faces. Then we would have more accurate feedback about what guys find most attractive.

 

But the truth is every guy has an individual preference and he will be biased if he likes the girl enough.

 

it wasn't meant to be acurate. I agree I wish they were the same age and a young teenaged chubby girl say 19 is going to be way hotter then a woman of the same weight and height who is in their 30's so its true. And a pretty face does combat a fat body, its interesting how some people have Fat faces and arn't that heavy and some people have great faces and are kind of fat. For the most part though I was just trying to ilistrate my points and I think I did that. I think its gross and humilating to go through life fat and most people in my mind have no good excuse for it... I have no statistics but the people in my life who I know are fat some very well and to my knowledge do have to an extent excuses but really none of them have good ones.

[Jersey Shortie]

Seriously if you were dating a man and he had a job and seemed like he was motivated and living his life and then he lost the job, was not looking for a new job and was asking for help with his rent money you would not be happy

 

I completely agree. But I wouldn't sit there and try to underhandly sabotage him by being snarky and mean to him during this time. I would do my best to be a positive reinforcer and do what I could to help him. Not try to tear him down because of what that impact means on *me*. Giving little though to what it means to him, the star in this drama. I would have enough understanding to know that he is human and is having a difficult time at the moment. People forget that they are human too and probably aren't always easy to love themselves. They are so intolerant of other's making mistakes, even the people the choose to love. If he fails to make changes or help himself, that would obviously be a problem. But you don't try to help someone by automatically thinking poorly of them right off the bat and being snarky because your woman doesn't have a perfect little figure.

 

Women aren't perfect, we faulter sometimes. We make mistakes. We gain weight. We can't all look like a magazines cover or a girl in Playboy even if that's what men wish we could be. We do much better when we have partners that support us and love us and help us to stand up when we fall rather then condemning us for our mistakes. What man here wants to be condemned for his mistakes? What man here doesn't make a mistake either physically with his own body, work or relationships? I know for myself that it's hard to keep off extra weight. I work out hard, I eat well and I still have a hard time. I am not fat but I am not perfect either. And just the unsupportive mates here are another issue that is just as bad as one partner become lazy in an area that hurts the relationship.

 

Do I think that a man should have no issue if his partner gains weight? If it's something she can help, I don't think he is wrong to be concerned about it. But the comments here aren't about trying to fix a problem more then they are for condemning a person who might gain weight, might make a mistake, might not be perfect.

 

I don't think men really understand their own ideals that are unrealistic. I love looking at those photos of the befer and after of photoshopped stars. It's amazing how goregous they look on a magazine and how human they look in just a normal picture. Women are people. Not pictures.

[Trialbyfire]

it wasn't meant to be acurate. I agree I wish they were the same age and a young teenaged chubby girl say 19 is going to be way hotter then a woman of the same weight and height who is in their 30's so its true. And a pretty face does combat a fat body, its interesting how some people have Fat faces and arn't that heavy and some people have great faces and are kind of fat. For the most part though I was just trying to ilistrate my points and I think I did that. I think its gross and humilating to go through life fat and most people in my mind have no good excuse for it... I have no statistics but the people in my life who I know are fat some very well and to my knowledge do have to an extent excuses but really none of them have good ones.

I'm not going to bash on you, since you've made your attitude clear to your g/f upfront. Everyone has dating preferences so if they want someone who's young and thin, that's their choice, as long as it's not based on too young aka predatory behaviour.

 

Like you, I have my preferences too. My fiancé falls into my dating preferences, where he's not only fit but believes in a healthy lifestyle for reasons beyond the superficial. When you're healthy, you feel it. When you live the healthy lifestyle, it comes through in your food preferences because your body isn't accustomed to excessive fat or carbs. It also positively affects your emotional and mental levels, particularly in reference to stress.

 

I also prefer someone who's got their strength, life experience and sense of humour carved into their faces. In other words, young faces don't do anything for me.

 

These are my preferences and are there from the get-go, so it's not a matter of pulling 6 years later, for superficial reasons of being arm trophy or an object or extension of me. They're individual people who deserve the respect that comes as part of the love, within a viable relationship.

[Green]

I completely agree. But I wouldn't sit there and try to underhandly sabotage him by being snarky and mean to him during this time. I would do my best to be a positive reinforcer and do what I could to help him. Not try to tear him down because of what that impact means on *me*. Giving little though to what it means to him, the star in this drama. I would have enough understanding to know that he is human and is having a difficult time at the moment. People forget that they are human too and probably aren't always easy to love themselves. They are so intolerant of other's making mistakes, even the people the choose to love. If he fails to make changes or help himself, that would obviously be a problem. But you don't try to help someone by automatically thinking poorly of them right off the bat and being snarky because your woman doesn't have a perfect little figure.

 

Women aren't perfect, we faulter sometimes. We make mistakes. We gain weight. We can't all look like a magazines cover or a girl in Playboy even if that's what men wish we could be. We do much better when we have partners that support us and love us and help us to stand up when we fall rather then condemning us for our mistakes. What man here wants to be condemned for his mistakes? What man here doesn't make a mistake either physically with his own body, work or relationships? I know for myself that it's hard to keep off extra weight. I work out hard, I eat well and I still have a hard time. I am not fat but I am not perfect either. And just the unsupportive mates here are another issue that is just as bad as one partner become lazy in an area that hurts the relationship.

 

Do I think that a man should have no issue if his partner gains weight? If it's something she can help, I don't think he is wrong to be concerned about it. But the comments here aren't about trying to fix a problem more then they are for condemning a person who might gain weight, might make a mistake, might not be perfect.

 

I don't think men really understand their own ideals that are unrealistic. I love looking at those photos of the befer and after of photoshopped stars. It's amazing how goregous they look on a magazine and how human they look in just a normal picture. Women are people. Not pictures.

 

you can't be a posotive reinforcer when a women is gaining weight. If you love her and your respectfull and kind and she is still gaining weight that is all you can really do. I don't suggest telling a girl she is getting fat or looks fat thats horible... but I also don't sugest a man should put up with a woman who just doesn't care if hes no longer attracted and love just isn't enough. Imagine if that man with no job scenario the no job was such a touchy subject and you even trying to help him get motivated to get a job was so touchy that you could easily say something considered mean... thats what its like if a girls getting fat you can't help she can only help herself.

 

Of course a man should support and respect his women and not condem her for putting on a few pounds but if shes fat he one doesn't need to start dating her, and if they are already dating and she has gotten fat for what seems like just the way she choses to live life he doesn't have to stick aroun and watch the person he fell for get all stretched out if he doesn't want to and shouldn't be blamed. And of course men don't want to be judged but many if not most in my opinion women judge a man from the moment they meet him from is he tan to what hairstyle he wheres what clothes and car he has to the neighborhood he owns his place or if he owns a place or llives at home... realisticaly people judge all the time and if a man loses his job and just doesn't have one most women would leave after they reached there limit with a jobless man.

 

A man shouldn't have to fix the problem if a girl is fat he never needs to start dating her and if a girl he started dating just keeps on putting weight and goes past his limit he shoujld be able to leave her no shame.

 

And yes women are not pictures I'm very well aware of that I'm not comparing the women I see on tv to the women I see in real life... I could go to the beach and with my own eyes observe good looking women and fat women. I really could care less if a woman has celulite or fat on her body its when she looks pregnant and isn't... I mean if I got a girl pregnant she would look hot to me but if my gf is just pregnant looking so gross

[Saint Valentine]

The bottom line is that fat people have some problems with their genes - be it physical or mental. Their "look" is making a bold statement about their worth as an individual. Guys are biologically conditioned to look elsewhere for a mate, so that their seed will be spread optimally.

[Isolde]

Actually, if I gained a significant amount of weight I would want anybody and everybody close to me to say so. That kind of honesty is not cruel but an expression of the deepest caring, and it also would give your partner a warning to shape up. The worst thing would be to say nothing and then bolt without even giving your partner a chance to shape up

[Green]

I'm not going to bash on you, since you've made your attitude clear to your g/f upfront. Everyone has dating preferences so if they want someone who's young and thin, that's their choice, as long as it's not based on too young aka predatory behaviour.

 

Like you, I have my preferences too. My fiancé falls into my dating preferences, where he's not only fit but believes in a healthy lifestyle for reasons beyond the superficial. When you're healthy, you feel it. When you live the healthy lifestyle, it comes through in your food preferences because your body isn't accustomed to excessive fat or carbs. It also positively affects your emotional and mental levels, particularly in reference to stress.

 

I also prefer someone who's got their strength, life experience and sense of humour carved into their faces. In other words, young faces don't do anything for me.

 

These are my preferences and are there from the get-go, so it's not a matter of pulling 6 years later, for superficial reasons of being arm trophy or an object or extension of me. They're individual people who deserve the respect that comes as part of the love, within a viable relationship.

 

I think my gf is one of the prettiest sexiest cutest women I've ever seen. She is smart and kind and very affectionate with me. She is younger then me by two years in her early twenties. I love health and I truely find it attractive the entire idea of taking care of your body on more then just the superficial level. The superficial level is there but it is more then that. When I met my gf she was physicaly very out of shape, looked great but just didn't have the ability to do arobic or anerobic excercises but guess what she came to the gym with me and worked out and now works out on her own. Currently I have a problem with the fact she doesn't really cook. What do I mean, well she has great taste in resteraunts like when we go out we get sushi and good italian and stuff like that not your typical lets go to Fridays and Applebee's type of girl which I love. What I don't love is that on her own she just does thing like eats frozen and canned food that is gross to me even though she physicaly looks perfect in my eyes. I am afraid the fact that she has a habit of drinking soda and eating sht food cause she can't cook will catch up with her. but even though she looks perfect it still anoys me now. She knows I'm not into fat chicks heck she makes fun of fat chicks. Look the point is even though she is so great if she put on say 50lbs of fat and looked pregnant and wasn't I would leave her and it would be her fault. I mean I love picking her up literly lifting her and she loves it too. I don't think my gf would ever just let herself go like that but if she did then oh well its like a slap in her own face and I wouldn't feel guilty unless it was because of some sickness wich is a dif scenario and wouldn't incure my anger

[kashmir]

I have no tolerance for fat girls.

 

I used to be obese myself. I had genetics working against me. I ate healthy and in moderate amounts and still was 210 pounds with 33% fat. I lost it. Since then I've kept it down, and I'm in better shape than 99% of the guys I see.

 

Anyone can get in shape. In my freshmen year of high school I had to run a mile for gym class and didn't even come close to finishing before I fell on the ground and started wheezing my lungs out. Three years later I was running 6-10 miles daily and competing in weekly 5k's for cross country.

 

So anyone who says that some people just can't get in shape is full of crap. If you're fat, lay off the junk food and start exercising. The first few weeks are the hardest, but once you start seeing results, you get more and more motivated to exercise.

 

I expect girls to do the same. If they don't, then there's no way I'll even consider them. I'm attracted to women, not cows.

[Saint Valentine]

Actually, if I gained a significant amount of weight I would want anybody and everybody close to me to say so. That kind of honesty is not cruel but an expression of the deepest caring,

"Isolde, is that another new pair of jeans? They must be twice as expensive as the ones you used to wear, girl!"

[Isolde]

I'm attracted to women, not cows.

 

This is the kind of statement that gets people upset on these threads: the implication that a woman who is extremely overweight is less than a woman. You also see it the other way around: the slogan "Real Women Have Curves," implying that if you are naturally thin you aren't feminine.

 

Can't guys conceptualize, that a woman is still a woman, a human, even if you are repulsed by her physically?

 

Also, both you and Green are very young, so it's natural that you would be attracted to extremely thin girls. But when you get into your thirties and forties you'll find very few women around you who are 5'5 and 100 pounds. Not saying you should ever settle for someone overweight, but keep in mind that it gets a hell of a lot harder to stay thin past 30 or 40 (depending on your genes... my mom put on weight after 40 and she is still slim but 15 Ibs heavier than she was at my age... and that's kind of a best case scenario).

[Green]

This is the kind of statement that gets people upset on these threads: the implication that a woman who is extremely overweight is less than a woman. You also see it the other way around: the slogan "Real Women Have Curves," implying that if you are naturally thin you aren't feminine.

 

Can't guys conceptualize, that a woman is still a woman, a human, even if you are repulsed by her physically?

 

Also, both you and Green are very young, so it's natural that you would be attracted to extremely thin girls. But when you get into your thirties and forties you'll find very few women around you who are 5'5 and 100 pounds. Not saying you should ever settle for someone overweight, but keep in mind that it gets a hell of a lot harder to stay thin past 30 or 40 (depending on your genes... my mom put on weight after 40 and she is still slim but 15 Ibs heavier than she was at my age... and that's kind of a best case scenario).

 

 

I'll probably be married past 30 and if I'm still dating maybe I will date women in their twenties if I can't find attractive 30 up women which there are attractive ones but I agree not even close to the same ammount as when your young. Seriously Kashmir should be able to call them cows. There faces look all stretched out its disgusting. Seriously my gf got a bad sickness and was puking and diharea for a week and I still wanted to do her... but if she gained 50 pounds because she just felt like eating chips and drinking sodas believe me I'd rather eat the **** you crapped out on a waffle Isolde then be with some one like that

[Saint Valentine]

: the implication that a woman who is extremely overweight is less than a woman.

Yes, this reminds me of the lyrics: "You're once, twice, three times a lady" - just a great song about a woman who started out normal, and eventually crushed her lover. He died with a smile on his face, though.

[Sam Spade]

I have no tolerance for fat girls.

 

I used to be obese myself. I had genetics working against me. I ate healthy and in moderate amounts and still was 210 pounds with 33% fat. I lost it. Since then I've kept it down, and I'm in better shape than 99% of the guys I see.

 

Anyone can get in shape. In my freshmen year of high school I had to run a mile for gym class and didn't even come close to finishing before I fell on the ground and started wheezing my lungs out. Three years later I was running 6-10 miles daily and competing in weekly 5k's for cross country.

 

So anyone who says that some people just can't get in shape is full of crap. If you're fat, lay off the junk food and start exercising. The first few weeks are the hardest, but once you start seeing results, you get more and more motivated to exercise.

 

I expect girls to do the same. If they don't, then there's no way I'll even consider them. I'm attracted to women, not cows.

 

 

This is a litle harsh, but also fair. The genetic and ilness factors apply to a really small proportion of the population.

Sure, some people have it easier than others in the weight maintenance department, but anybody can get in shape if they want it. Unlike most things in life, this is something that is completely within a person's control.

No, fat people are not any less of a person, but being fat still does tell something about you as a person - at the very least, it tells that you are not particularly concerned about your health and physical appearance. Which is fine, as long as this is not also accompanied by an expectation people to be attracted to you anyway. I am perfectly capable of respecting and being friends with an overweight woman, I will just never be romantically interested in her...

[Isolde]

I am not advocating that obese is beautiful; I'm just saying there's no need to call fat women names. I don't like guys with big bellies but I don't waste my time taunting them.

[Isolde]

Which is fine, as long as this is not also accompanied by an expectation people to be attracted to you anyway. I am perfectly capable of respecting and being friends with an overweight woman, I will just never be romantically interested in her...

 

Yes, exactly, respect can be shown independently of attraction. This is all I was trying to say. I just think Green and Kashmir could both have worded their preferences in a more mature manner.

[clv0116]

I thought we were just evaluating figures on this thread.

 

Ya, I know. I wouldn't date her, but she's not so chubby it's a deal breaker. My bad, I should have been more clear. I try to be concise but sometimes I"m a bit too brief.

 

 

 

But the truth is every guy has an individual preference and he will be biased if he likes the girl enough.

 

That can make up for a lot.

 

 

 

Some overweight women are very attractive to me and some are not.

 

What's really ugly and disgusting are people who make blanket statements like this :mad:

 

Dude, go get a date.

 

 

 

This is the kind of statement that gets people upset on these threads: the implication that a woman who is extremely overweight is less than a woman. You also see it the other way around: the slogan "Real Women Have Curves," implying that if you are naturally thin you aren't feminine.

 

A woman that's extremely overweight is actually a lot MORE than a woman. "Real Women Have Curves" is the battle cry of the thundering fat chick herd trying to shame men who like slim healthy attractive women.

[Saint Valentine]

That's because fat guys with huge bellies don't really care what other people think. They just want another beer.

[Isolde]

 

A woman that's extremely overweight is actually a lot MORE than a woman. "Real Women Have Curves" is the battle cry of the thundering fat chick herd trying to shame men who like slim healthy attractive women.

 

To some extent, though there are average weight women who also say that, believe it or not, to women they believe are too thin. So much loathing on both sides, women are not very kind to other women.

[39388]

I'm attracted to women, not cows.

 

Seriously Kashmir should be able to call them cows. There faces look all stretched out its disgusting.

This is a free country so you can call women who struggle with their weight all kinds of names if that's what you enjoy. I can also call those who call these women names some things, but I will refrain from doing so.

 

Now I know why so many women who have trouble losing weight end up very depressed. If it was so easy, then at least 99% of the population would have done so by now. I know some very high quality women who some of you would call the worst names because of what they weigh.

[kashmir]

This is the kind of statement that gets people upset on these threads: the implication that a woman who is extremely overweight is less than a woman.

 

She is less than a woman. Men don't want her.

 

A friend of mine always says, "Fat people don't have souls." That's a little harsh, but not far from the truth.

 

When I was obese I was a good-for-nothing lazy piece of **** who just sat around playing world of warcraft whenever I wasn't at school. Girls obviously didn't want to even look at me then because I was worthless. I had some legit mental health problems that attributed to my laziness, but eventually my will to change myself got strong enough to overpower what held me back and I did something with my previously-void life. I don't see why fat girls can't do the same.

[Isolde]

Kashmir, yes, a lot of women get fat because they are lazy, but come on, "less than a woman because men don't want her?"

 

I have to say I'm disappointed in some of these comments.

[Jersey Shortie]

you can't be a posotive reinforcer when a women is gaining weight.

 

Yes you can. It's a choice. Not all choices in life are based on how things make *you* feel in a positive way. I am sure you aren't always easy to love. I am sure there are things that you do that bother your partner. I wonder if she would condemn you so harshly.

 

You will fall on hard times, for whatever reason, because as you get older you will encounter more serious life problems. A relatoinship is not measured by it's joy in good times. It's the harder times that really measure a person.

 

 

I don't suggest telling a girl she is getting fat or looks fat thats horible... but I also don't sugest a man should put up with a woman who just doesn't care if hes no longer attracted and love just isn't enough. Imagine if that man with no job scenario the no job was such a touchy subject and you even trying to help him get motivated to get a job was so touchy that you could easily say something considered mean... thats what its like if a girls getting fat you can't help she can only help herself.

 

Yes, a person needs to help themselves ulitmately. I agree. But you will have a much better out come offering them positive support, rather then negative support. Any woman will come to resent a man that tears her down emotionally. Like I said. None of us are perfect. We all make mistakes.

 

Of course a man should support and respect his women and not condem her for putting on a few pounds but if shes fat he one doesn't need to start dating her...

 

Sure. I don't condemn men for not being attracted to a certain body type, or an over weight woman. But not all of us can look like someone out of Maxim either. Maybe men have unrealistic perceptions about what women's bodies really are. Women actually do have more fat then men because we have children. And yet we are expected to be leaner then men that naturally have more muscle mass.

 

.....and if they are already dating and she has gotten fat for what seems like just the way she choses to live life he doesn't have to stick aroun and watch the person he fell for get all stretched out if he doesn't want to and shouldn't be blamed.

 

If she is unwilling to anything about it, I can agree to an extent. But if that man is negative, unsupportive and unwilling to work through the hard times, then he probably wouldn't be a good mate anyway to stick around for more serious issues.

 

I'm attracted to women, not cows.

 

I am sure there are bovines all over the world crying into their haystacks right now..and by bovines, I do mean bovines.

 

More seriously, it's not the fact that you arne't attracted to heavy women that is the bad thing here. It's your poor attitude and idea that people who do not fit into your defined rules deserve to be uttered with contempt that showcases your own issues, not theirs.

[Saint Valentine]

It's all about attitude. Don't be fat - be phat. The choice is yours.

[39388]

Dude, go get a date.

Please don't talk down to me again.

 

I can and will call out unacceptable statements when I see them.

[Trialbyfire]

She is less than a woman. Men don't want her.

 

A friend of mine always says, "Fat people don't have souls." That's a little harsh, but not far from the truth.

 

When I was obese I was a good-for-nothing lazy piece of **** who just sat around playing world of warcraft whenever I wasn't at school. Girls obviously didn't want to even look at me then because I was worthless. I had some legit mental health problems that attributed to my laziness, but eventually my will to change myself got strong enough to overpower what held me back and I did something with my previously-void life. I don't see why fat girls can't do the same.

Kashmir, you remind me of a smoker who quit smoking cold turkey. They're usually the ones who are adamant non-smokers.

 

So...what if a girl were to find your current body too thick or heavy. Would it be acceptable for her to tell you that you're a cow?