Men stay attractive longer then women and Peek later in life

[clv0116]

Besides, marriage isn't the only indicator of happiness. Many older women find themselves in happy LTR's with older men.

 

Very true, but I wonder what percent of those would turn down a proposal if it was on the table? Marriage seems to be a womans touchstone as to whether a relationship is 'going anywhere' or not.

[anne1707]

Paul McCartney comes to mind.

 

Well he also doesn't help things when he insists on wearing "old man jeans"

[shadowplay]

Paul McCartney comes to mind.

 

Yes! He was cute. Bob Dylan wasn't half bad looking when he was in his twenties either, and now look at him.

 

Just thought of another guy who aged badly: Al Pacino. He's not cheeky, though.

[Trialbyfire]

Men who go for much younger women: Even if you marry a younger woman, she'll get older and less attractive with age. Will you just dump her for a newer model when she does? Or cheat on her?

Aren't you assuming that the younger woman won't find her jollies elsewhere, when the much older man gets even older looking? This is more likely to happen, than the reverse.

[Sam Spade]

#1 kind of man makes me run for my life. I don't want to change nappies for both husband and children.

#2 type of women are usually upfront about not looking for marriage. I sincerely doubt that all men are marriage minded, when dating...

 

It's allright, # 1 type women mature faster because they stop to develop at the age of 18. # 2 type had no business getting married to begin with.

[Trialbyfire]

Do you men honestly believe the things you're posting? I want to believe better of some of you but it appears I'm mistaken.

 

I will openly admit that some of the last few posts of mine are a more extreme position than I honestly believe.

[Isolde]

I don't think Robert Redford and Warren Beatty aged badly. I actually think they're good examples of how men's looks fade with time just like women's, but can grow in terms of "character."

[Isolde]

Very true, but I wonder what percent of those would turn down a proposal if it was on the table? Marriage seems to be a womans touchstone as to whether a relationship is 'going anywhere' or not.

 

Marriage happens when both people want it. I can't really qualify my statement any further than that.

[LoveLace]

Someone may have said this already, but I've seen it go both ways. I"ve known of men who lose it in their 30's and totally down hill from there...and I've known of LOTS of women who get better looking with age (I get told that I'm one of them occasionally)...my mother is almost 60 and beautiful as ever, she's never even been unattractive in the 1st place...and she's never had a single surgery of any kind, not even a face lift...

 

I knew unattracitve guys in high school, that peeked in their 20's, and down spiral again in the 30's....in other words I don't think that aging in relation to attractiveness has a darn thing to do with gender; it's all about genetics and how you take care of yourself....of course, women always have the child birthing factor against them....but I"ve also seen some bounce back from that with a vegence and stay that way.

 

Being a woman, it's a little offensive to hear that I"m just doomed to get uglier each year (just because Im female) so I gotta argue, of course...

[clv0116]

Marriage happens when both people want it. I can't really qualify my statement any further than that.

 

Very true however it's my observation that the female in the relationship tends to generally be much more likely to want it than the man most of the time. I have NEVER heard man say he was bailing out of a relationship because his girlfriend wouldn't commit to marriage. Not once. I'm sure it happens but not often.

 

Thus I believe a lot of those 'older couples' are in fact a guy who won't commit and the woman who can't do any better at this stage of her life.

[adoreher]

dude you're a troll and a tool

 

probably a plant by loveshack to keep up posts

 

actually im rare for guys my age

... lots of guys let themselves go to *****

 

its chicks who try harder and stay hotter longer these days

[btc8]

Men remain sexualy attractive for a longer time span then women, Men also peak in attractiveness later in life then women. Maybe its an evelutionary advantage since womens best reproductive years are when they are young and men can reproduce throughout their life if fertile and given the oportunity.

 

I'd like to see your sources. I always thought it was the opposite: Women hit their sexual peak much later in life than men (men hit sometime in early 30s whereas females are sometime later. Men also tend to have more mid-life crises than men.

 

The female body is for more complex, physiologically speaking, than that of a man's. The female body requires more physiological control than men's--which may explain if this aging is more easily avoided in men than in women.

[susyq76]

It's a scientific fact that men hit their sexual peak in late teens/early 20s. I wasn't making it up from experience. Women peak in their 30s. Peak doesn't mean when you get good at sex. It has to do with your sex drive.

 

Anywho, I'm still asking myself WHO said that women are so attracted to older men. I So am NOT attracted to older men. 4 years up is my max. I am 32 and have no desire whatsoever to date a man over 36! It will not even begin to entertain a man over 40. Late 30s I MAY let you slide if you have some type of young appeal. Ugh, I hate older guys that try to dress young and/or act young. Then I hate older guys because they remind me of my dad. Sorry, I am NOT attracted to older men so please stop generalizing stating that women are attracted to older men. I'm 32 with a Masters and six figure job so I don't need the older guys stability so therefore, I have no need to trade in my young grasshoper for the 40+ that will leave me a widow before my time :-)

[JerseyShortie]

I would like to say as a woman in my 20s who is dating and hoping to find a truly good man to spend the rest of her life with, it's very discouraging to come on this board and hear the comments from some of the guys about women as they get older.

 

I will get older, like every other human being out there, men included. I don't want to be thought of as less of a woman for it. I want my man to think I am beautiful. Just like any man here wants his woman to think he is strong and deserving of respect and not less deserving of something that makes him feel like a man because he gets older himself.

 

In all honesty, men do not age better. Men get old. Men get grey. Men get wrinkles. I have heard enough comments from alot of men to know they have their own aging insecurities.

 

Men's sexual performance declines. A man's sperm starts to decline once he hits 30-35. The myth that men age better is perpetuated by the men who can't handle their own mortality. Yes, a man can have babies in his older age. But should he? Women now-a-days can also have babies in their older years. I don't personally think they should be though. Being able to do something and should you do it are two different things.

 

I do not say these things to put men down. Women get grey and wrinkled as well. I say them to state the facts. Next time you are out in public take a look at a 50 year old man and women and I will promise that in most cases, the man is not exhibiting some special youthful appearance that is being perpetuated as the truth here. Men get older, just like every other living orgasm. And I actually think men are less comfortable with the idea of aging and handle it less well. Funny thing is though that women don't look down on men for it. We accept it, we might even thing it makes you just that much more cuter. We enjoy you for who you are. I guess, I as a woman, would like the same recipocated. Why not right?

 

Being told that I will become less of a woman for aging, makes you wonder if it's even worth trying if that is how men feel about us. Are 20 year old girls pretty? Sure they are. But the way I see it, all us women whether we are 20 or 50 are together in this. Because 20 year olds age too.

 

It sounds to me that there are some men here want to purposely make women feel like less. Why is that?

 

Do you want to make women feel like less? Or do you just want to make yourself feel better because of your own insecurities?

 

I hope I find a man that can value himself as he ages and can value me as I age. I won't be young forever but I want to be able to build a life with a man without him wishing he was with a 18 year old girl or that I was less of a woman for not being 18 anymore. Or wishing he could live some over extended college life times. Men like Paul Newman, he knew how to be a man. Unfortunetly, when posts like these come about, I think the chances of finding that are slim. I am sure the guys that commented here about the worthless of women as they age don't care, but I care. And wanted to express myself.

 

So if you wanted to make women feel bad or you wanted to make this into a "men are better then women because of this" post, you got the job done. Thanks for showing me how some men can view women as if they are worthless.

[LoveLace]

It's a scientific fact that men hit their sexual peak in late teens/early 20s. I wasn't making it up from experience. Women peak in their 30s. Peak doesn't mean when you get good at sex. It has to do with your sex drive.

 

Anywho, I'm still asking myself WHO said that women are so attracted to older men. I So am NOT attracted to older men. 4 years up is my max. I am 32 and have no desire whatsoever to date a man over 36! It will not even begin to entertain a man over 40. Late 30s I MAY let you slide if you have some type of young appeal. Ugh, I hate older guys that try to dress young and/or act young. Then I hate older guys because they remind me of my dad. Sorry, I am NOT attracted to older men so please stop generalizing stating that women are attracted to older men. I'm 32 with a Masters and six figure job so I don't need the older guys stability so therefore, I have no need to trade in my young grasshoper for the 40+ that will leave me a widow before my time :-)

 

 

All so well said...I am 32 also, and yes George Clooney is one sexy man, but I'm sure his status has a lot to do with it. Otherwise, when it comes to real life, any man over 4o give or take a year or two, is automatically off my list for dating. I know I'm getting older though still young, and I know that 45-50 is even still young, though older, but the last thing I want is to be with someone old enough to be my father, or even close to it. And I too, have a career that would allow me to be without any man for the rest of my life, if I wanted it that way. So I dont need to seek out financial security despite of age or looks or whatever.

[Cherry Blossom 35]

Men get older, just like every other living orgasm.

 

Heehee, funny typo

[Trialbyfire]

Heehee, funny typo

Totally, if you consider the swimmers involved, doing the dog-paddle v. the front crawl!

[Hughesy]

I think Green should come and join sosuave, you're getting whipped by women. If a man is getting whipped by women then he won't stay attractive longer or peak later than any woman.

[Jersey Shortie]

Heehee, funny typo

 

Ha

 

 

All these "men do this" and "women do that" threads are so ridiculous!

 

I think it's tongue and cheek generalities but sometimes, women and men do alot of the same type of stuff.

[clv0116]

Being told that I will become less of a woman for aging, makes you wonder if it's even worth trying if that is how men feel about us. Are 20 year old girls pretty? Sure they are. But the way I see it, all us women whether we are 20 or 50 are together in this. Because 20 year olds age too.

 

A man married to a 40 year old woman and enjoying their 15th year together is a hugely different thing than a man looking to date. I think that if a woman wants a good man she should get pretty serious about it before she turns 30.

[IcemanJB]

I'm not so sure about this claim. I'm almost 23 and I've started losing my hair already.

[Jersey Shortie]

A man married to a 40 year old woman and enjoying their 15th year together is a hugely different thing than a man looking to date. I think that if a woman wants a good man she should get pretty serious about it before she turns 30.

 

So women after 30 don't deserve good men? All the men here that are over 30 would NEVER want that kind of stipulation put on their worth. Not all of us meet the man we can love at 18.

 

We get it though. 18 year olds are the best and all other women are crap. We get your message. Women are pretty worthless in your book.

 

I still hope there are men out there that can learn to love themselves and their age and grow in themselves and are not looking to live an extended adolecence because they need to permulate their own importance.

 

Not everyone finds their love match at 18. But I guess women should be less deserving of love or should be crapped on if they don't? It's not a matter of looking for mister perfect or having unrealistic standards. It just doesn't happen for everyone at the same time. But thank you for reiterating that women over 30 are worthless. I won't be in my 20s forever and personally, this is the kind of stuff that just makes you want to thrown in the towel right now because it just doesn't matter to men what you want to give, how you want to build a relationship with them. It's the kind of stuff that makes your think that men don't want to give women a chance or work with us. More like it seems like they want to work against us, make us feel like less of a woman for getting older, and basically tell us we are worthless after a certain age and undersering for a good man because we got over 30. Meanwhile, funny how they want to keep pointing out how much better and important they are well into their 40s.

 

What do you get out of it? You win? Women loose? Men are better? Women stink? Seriously, who wants to be with a man 15 years from now or only dating him if he only thinks women are compete crap just for getting older. Who wants to boe the one to stand by his side, do his laundry and the million other chores when he just wants to bang 18 year olds.

 

There is NO man here that wants to be less important to his woman, or made to feel less important and less like a man for aging. Apparnetly, there are alot of men that want to make women feel just like that. What is it, some kind of powerplay thing for you that makes you feel more important then you really are in the grand scheme of it all? What do you get out of it? Or maybe it's just the idea that you, men, want to be thought of as better and more important and more deserving of life and it's pleasures and rewards the women. So hey why don't we give it to you. You're great and worthy of love no matter your age. Women are complete crap on the other hand and should be ready to check out of having any love or feeling sexy and special to a man after the age of 25. Hope this makes you happy. You win. We women loose. Glad that we cleared that up. Stupid women for actually wanting love, companionship and to feel beautiful and like a woman even though they aged over 18! Aren't we the worst! Shouldn't we realize how important men are and how worthless we are!..That is what you want after all isn't it.

[clv0116]

So women after 30 don't deserve good men? All the men here that are over 30 would NEVER want that kind of stipulation put on their worth. Not all of us meet the man we can love at 18.

 

Well 18 is pretty young, but 28 is not unreasonable.

 

 

We get it though. 18 year olds are the best and all other women are crap. We get your message. Women are pretty worthless in your book.

 

Do you have esteem issues? I never said older women are crap. They are a hard sell on the marriage market though, so if being married is important then a woman would be wise to move before she gets too far past 30.

 

That's a long way from your banshee-like shriek "he says older women are WORTHLESS" isn't it?

 

 

I still hope there are men out there that can learn to love themselves and their age and grow in themselves and are not looking to live an extended adolecence because they need to permulate their own importance.

 

Most men seem OK, but then I'm not dating them so maybe I overlooked something. The biggest problem I notice for men is draconian divorce realities that put fear into our collective hearts.

 

 

Not everyone finds their love match at 18. But I guess women should be less deserving of love or should be crapped on if they don't? It's not a matter of looking for mister perfect or having unrealistic standards. It just doesn't happen for everyone at the same time. But thank you for reiterating that women over 30 are worthless.

 

Again they are not worthless at all, but they are less desirable to date with an eye toward marriage. Not at all the same thing.

 

 

I won't be in my 20s forever and personally, this is the kind of stuff that just makes you want to thrown in the towel right now because it just doesn't matter to men what you want to give, how you want to build a relationship with them. It's the kind of stuff that makes your think that men don't want to give women a chance or work with us. More like it seems like they want to work against us, make us feel like less of a woman for getting older, and basically tell us we are worthless after a certain age and undersering for a good man because we got over 30.

 

Presumable you won't be single forever either. It's my personal opinion that a man should start looking to get married about 30, after his career is in order and his life is sorted out, and he should be looking at women 6-12 years his junior.

 

 

Seriously, who wants to be with a man 15 years from now or only dating him if he only thinks women are compete crap just for getting older. Who wants to boe the one to stand by his side, do his laundry and the million other chores when he just wants to bang 18 year olds.

 

Again this is a gross misrepresentation. Starting a life together with a 40 year old woman and continuing the life you started 15 years ago with a 40 year old woman are completely different things. One I'd love to do, the other I'd never consider.

[blondesmiler]

A man married to a 40 year old woman and enjoying their 15th year together is a hugely different thing than a man looking to date. I think that if a woman wants a good man she should get pretty serious about it before she turns 30.

 

Well just f**king kill me now then ! Apparantly my dating days are well and truly over

[susyq76]

Wait- If a Woman wants a good man she should start working on it before 30. HuH????????????

 

Okay, maybe I'm just crazy but I'm 32 and before 30 I wasn't even thinking about marriage. Ba hum bug. I didn't even finish grad school until 26. So, from 18-26 I was in school (undergrad then grad school). I didn't even get a chance to start explorying myself and figure out what IIIIIIIII like until 26! In the collegiate world, most people don't start to get married until well after 30. I know very few married folks and the couple that I do know just got married recently and we're all over 30. Most young professionals are more career/school focused in their 20s and really travelling and enjoying life!!!! I have my whole life to be a wife, I don't need to rush and do it before 30 for fear that no good men will be left. Please!