Geishawhelk Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I hope I dont turn you off by getting spiritual on you, but I think it is very important that you turn to God in your times of need like this. And I'm going to slightly disagree with Geisha because it is part of the human condition to feel the way you do sometimes--suffering is part of life unfortunatley. Everyone's gone through it. You get no disagreement from me at all; quite the opposite.... I'm not suggesting here or anywhere else that Suffering isn't part of Life. In actual fact, I am given to understand that the basic fundamental truth is, precisely, that Life IS suffering! But it's not what happens "out there" that is the factor in dealing with it. It's how we approach it, deal with it, and eventually transcend it "In Here" - that counts. That's my point. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I did suffer from extreme depression after a bad break up, as many do. That wasn't SAD that was heartbreak & full on depression. I understand. All I'm saying is I see the same disposition right now... if it wasn't SAD, I'd assume it's real depression. I'm certainly no mental health professional, so I really have no idea. But seeing as you've felt this way before, I'd suggest you seek some assistance, perhaps some medication that will lift your moods. From what I recall, you got very, very down before. Let's not let that happen again. Link to post Share on other sites
Author blondesmiler Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 Do you like animals? I hear getting a pet can really help with the loneliness. Being greeted by a cute kitty or a loveable doggy whenever you come home does wonders. You'll feel more loved and appreciated. Actually its funny you mention that, I am getting a kitten in a few weeks time when its old enough to leave its mommy. I did have a lovely cat previously he moved next door, and next door then moved!! Link to post Share on other sites
Author blondesmiler Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 I understand. All I'm saying is I see the same disposition right now... if it wasn't SAD, I'd assume it's real depression. I'm certainly no mental health professional, so I really have no idea. But seeing as you've felt this way before, I'd suggest you seek some assistance, perhaps some medication that will lift your moods. From what I recall, you got very, very down before. Let's not let that happen again. There is no chance of that happening, I know this is just or was just a minor blip of being down and sorry for myself. Deperession is very different, especially what I had previously, this is nothing like that. I might be cheesed off but I don't want to top myself like I did two years ago. Thankfully I know the signs and know what to do. Medication is not required here just a few adjustments, which are already in motion. Link to post Share on other sites
Author blondesmiler Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 You get no disagreement from me at all; quite the opposite.... I'm not suggesting here or anywhere else that Suffering isn't part of Life. In actual fact, I am given to understand that the basic fundamental truth is, precisely, that Life IS suffering! But it's not what happens "out there" that is the factor in dealing with it. It's how we approach it, deal with it, and eventually transcend it "In Here" - that counts. That's my point. To be honest, I am agnostic anyway. I don't really believe in "God". Too many bad things happen to too many good people, that if there was this almightly being that could do "stuff" then he would make the awful people in this world suffer and not those in such large events that have happened like Tsumami, 9/11, London Bombings etc etc But that is just my thoughts, everyone is different and has different beliefs and opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 (...) Thankfully .....Medication is not required here just a few adjustments, which are already in motion. That's really good to know!! (And I'm not a Chritian, either....nor do I believe in 'God'..... just to clarify! ) Link to post Share on other sites
Author blondesmiler Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 That's really good to know!! Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Pardon me. Edit reg's are all screwed up it seems!! First it says edit, then it says you can't - Sheeesh!! Link to post Share on other sites
LovieDove24 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 To be honest, I am agnostic anyway. I don't really believe in "God". Too many bad things happen to too many good people, that if there was this almightly being that could do "stuff" then he would make the awful people in this world suffer and not those in such large events that have happened like Tsumami, 9/11, London Bombings etc etc But that is just my thoughts, everyone is different and has different beliefs and opinions. The definition of Agnostic is being spiritual. You can still be spiritual and refer to your higher power as "God" if you are agnostic. By my understanding, an agnostic person is usually just a person who enjoys being spiritual on his or her own, without the help of the church. I think the correct term you were goin for there was atheist? Not to start a spiritual debate here but it couldn't hurt to TRY and trust, could it? If you ask for a higher power to show himself to you and its done with trusting sincerity--and not as a "test"--I promise you will feel it, be shown it or hear it. Again I apologize because I realize people get upset at preachers but it couldn't hurt to try. Right now I am going through a 12 step program and there is much strength to gain through spirituality. Link to post Share on other sites
LovieDove24 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You get no disagreement from me at all; quite the opposite.... I'm not suggesting here or anywhere else that Suffering isn't part of Life. In actual fact, I am given to understand that the basic fundamental truth is, precisely, that Life IS suffering! But it's not what happens "out there" that is the factor in dealing with it. It's how we approach it, deal with it, and eventually transcend it "In Here" - that counts. That's my point. Thanks for the clarification Geisha, good way of putting it. Glad we're on the same page Link to post Share on other sites
JamesM Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The definition of Agnostic is being spiritual. No, the definition of agnostic is one who is not committed to either that there is a God or that there is not a God. Usually, one who is agnostic actually does not believe in a God, but they haven't researched the subject well enough to take a stance. Most agnostics are not necessarily spiritual...unless they are Buddhists. Link to post Share on other sites
Beautiful Inside Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 omg seriously i just saw your picture you are georgous!!!! whats is wrong with you!!! seriously i know this sounds so cliche n all i just think that its when your not looking that somone great will come along into your life....i just wanted to let you know your beautiful and you have all of us here for support sista! take care and message me if you need to talk Link to post Share on other sites
Author blondesmiler Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 The definition of Agnostic is being spiritual. You can still be spiritual and refer to your higher power as "God" if you are agnostic. By my understanding, an agnostic person is usually just a person who enjoys being spiritual on his or her own, without the help of the church. I think the correct term you were goin for there was atheist? Not to start a spiritual debate here but it couldn't hurt to TRY and trust, could it? If you ask for a higher power to show himself to you and its done with trusting sincerity--and not as a "test"--I promise you will feel it, be shown it or hear it. Again I apologize because I realize people get upset at preachers but it couldn't hurt to try. Right now I am going through a 12 step program and there is much strength to gain through spirituality. err no I know the differrence thanks. I am agnostic. I cannot prove there isn't a god I just do not believe their isn't one "god" but I believe in something, just have no way of proving that either. So I hang in the middle...ie Agnostic Quote "At the same time, an Agnostic may hold that the existence of God, though not impossible, is very improbable" Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean-Blue Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hey blondesmiler! I think I remember you posting on here before, perhaps under a different username (unless I'm mistaken). I'm glad you decided to stick around. Have you visited your doctor about these issues you're having? The only person who can make changes in your life is YOU. It's easy to allow yourself to fall into this dark pit, where everything is dismal and gloomy. The longer you allow yourself to stay there, the worse things will get. You have to make that choice for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Lost_2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 All I would say is "been there, done that". It definitely suck if you think it like that but then I do things on my own when I don't find anyone to do things with - like driving around several hundred miles or something or just going to place of interest (like museum or something) and spending time there or maybe joining a group to do things which the whole group shares interest in. In the process you meet new people. Some become acquaintances and a few friends. These new friends have their own life too but in the process you have more friends and so there is more probability that you would find someone to hang with when you have nothing to do or feeling lonely. Doing anything is better than doing nothing and feeling lonely. Link to post Share on other sites
mental_traveller Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I really give up....so I get up and think right I will go out today, by myself and have a good day out. I think i'll take myself to the fairly local theme park and go on some rides as they always make me laugh.......hey and guess what, its only open for the zoo part, no rides...........of course, why would anything go right for me, again am being punished for something, wish I knew WTF it was. So I guess I'll just sit in alone again, oh what fun and joy. From this post I suspect your problems are more one of perspective than circumstances. Seriously, you think your day sucked because part of the park was closed? Not meaning to be rude here, but many people are in much worse circumstances than you, and they manage to be happier with more zest for life. Try to think more positively and get involved with something more positive and purposeful than moaning about your existence. If there are things about your life you don't like, take steps to try to change them - even if you initially fail, at least you are doing something, making an effort. Just don't mope around. Link to post Share on other sites
toddro Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I'd go out with you in a second, you are absolutley gorgeous and seem like a very nice person. Link to post Share on other sites
ianandris Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 C'mon, mental traveller, leave the poor girl alone. Sometimes, in order to be happy, people need to, well, mope a little. I don't begrudge her for it in the slightest. Sure, there are people in more difficult circumstances that manage to find happiness, but the common thread in those lives is a feeling of community, a feeling of belonging, of being loved. Have you ever met a happy person who was completely alone? Hell, you can't really compare lives like that anyway. We all have our difficulties, and they're all equally challenging in their own ways. There are those of us who honestly, sincerely try our best to make an effort to change things, to make things better, to reach out to people, but for whatever reason we run into walls, and things stay more or less the same. We don't find people. We don't make the type of friends who call us up on the weekend or just pop in whenever to hang out. There are those of us who's "zest for life" isn't exactly the infectious sort. I know how blondie here feels. I get that way sometimes, too. Hell, I'm kinda there right now. That sense that people just don't see you or that they don't care. I know all about that vacant feeling, that lonliness. I know how she feels when she talks about, how she isn't asking much, just for someone to be affectionate with, to take care of her physical needs, to hang out with on the weekends, to go places with, to cuddle up with in front of the tv, whatever. I understand that very very well, and it's a really painful, hollow feeling. And, IMO, there is nothing, NOTHING more damaging to a person's self esteem, more hurtful, even, than the sense that you're being passed over again and again. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference, and, ultimately, all any of us really want out of life is to be loved. Blondie, I really do hope things get better for you. This business of being single's really rough on the feelers sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
Author blondesmiler Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 C'mon, mental traveller, leave the poor girl alone. Sometimes, in order to be happy, people need to, well, mope a little. I don't begrudge her for it in the slightest. Sure, there are people in more difficult circumstances that manage to find happiness, but the common thread in those lives is a feeling of community, a feeling of belonging, of being loved. Have you ever met a happy person who was completely alone? Hell, you can't really compare lives like that anyway. We all have our difficulties, and they're all equally challenging in their own ways. There are those of us who honestly, sincerely try our best to make an effort to change things, to make things better, to reach out to people, but for whatever reason we run into walls, and things stay more or less the same. We don't find people. We don't make the type of friends who call us up on the weekend or just pop in whenever to hang out. There are those of us who's "zest for life" isn't exactly the infectious sort. I know how blondie here feels. I get that way sometimes, too. Hell, I'm kinda there right now. That sense that people just don't see you or that they don't care. I know all about that vacant feeling, that lonliness. I know how she feels when she talks about, how she isn't asking much, just for someone to be affectionate with, to take care of her physical needs, to hang out with on the weekends, to go places with, to cuddle up with in front of the tv, whatever. I understand that very very well, and it's a really painful, hollow feeling. And, IMO, there is nothing, NOTHING more damaging to a person's self esteem, more hurtful, even, than the sense that you're being passed over again and again. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference, and, ultimately, all any of us really want out of life is to be loved. Blondie, I really do hope things get better for you. This business of being single's really rough on the feelers sometimes. Thank you hun....some people do not understand or are just crabby and yet probably have been there themselves.........its not the theme park being closed it was the several other things going wrong before that chipping away and then once again picking myself up and thinking ok stop being a moody cow and get out for the day, oh I know I'll go on some rides that will make me laugh and then that not being an avaliable option, it was just another chip away. However that said, I am feeling much much much better and am really excited about my holiday just talking about it and planning it gets my mind all smiley and am taking my niece to the theme park in two weeks time, when it is open fully I might add and got lots of other things going on at the moment too. Link to post Share on other sites
CommitmentPhobe Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 London is garbage. You can't make local friends, you can't go anywhere without a big effort and it being cramped, it's all alright for a few years but after a while, well everyone ends up feeling like you Link to post Share on other sites
Brady_to_Moss Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I know just how you feel. I am very lonely right now and do almost everything by myself when i am home which is where i am at now. I keep looking for that speical girl yet it seems like everyone passes over me and it sucks. But you gotta keep your head up. Its tough for me right now but i am hoping my luck will turn around sooner or later. Hopefully with a girl that will actually care about me. Link to post Share on other sites
BIGO Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 i feel your pain and anger. its like god forgot about us!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Justanotherschmuck Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 life sucks, its too hard. I am a good decent person but things don't seem to go very well for me, its as if I am being punished for something. How can someone so geniune, that is kind, the type that will help an old lady cross the road or give up my seat for them, the kind that will do more or less anything I can for people, friends, family etc. I can understand that this and the odd other post of mine might make me sound miserable, but I am not. When I go out or around others I smile and am alot of fun to be with and do my being miserable at home alone as not too trouble others with it. I feel very unfulfield at present, I don't like my job very much but in the current climate there just is no scope to change jobs. I would like to go out more, for days out in the countryside, coast, beach or theme parks etc etc but doing these things alone just not that nice and just makes me feel more alone and lonely because I have to do it alone or not at all. I live alone, have a nice place but it feels so empty. I rarely get vistors, no one ever justs pops in. Some of my friends aren't that great, sure they have their own families and commitments but treat me as if I am always avaliable at the drop of a hat, or if I ask them about making a date to go out "I'll let you know" then I sit waiting for weeks for them to come back and let me know. They just do not get what it is like to be alone or lonely, or how much you look forward to any forward plans you might have because that is all you really have to look forward too or work towards. I wonder if I am depressed but I don't think I am, just down and their is no medication for that, all I can do is what I always do and put a brave face on, smile and carry on regardless. Sounds like youve got the world pretty much figured out. "Friends" is a word that has LONG lost its original meaning. "Acquientances' (sp?) is more like it. See how much of a "friend" most people are when $$$ enters the picture. Just accept that VERY few people GENUINELY care for you. If you are lucky to have a good family of origin, youre better off than most. My dad tried to tell me that "only your family loves you". I though he was just too cynical. God, was he right. If you think for one second a WIFE will love you unconditionally, like a REAL family, think again.........long and hard. It is a RARE wife nowadays that loves their man, IN SPITE of shortcomings. Your FOO will forgive and forget mistakes you make. You wife (or husband for that matter)? Please, even if she doesn't say anything, believe me, its packed away somewhere in that head of hers and it WILL acccumulate. Look, the world sucks. Yeah, people rally (most times) in times of disaster (9/11- great job) (Madrid bombing -not so good). BUt day to day? Its pathetic. The world is RUDE, SELFISH, DISHONEST....the list can go on and on. You can learn to disregard stuff and not take it to heart or you can work your ass off, make something of yourself, and then MOST of the people in this world (not all) will leave you be. They'll PRETEND they like you, pretend they respect you, but AT LEAST they will get out of your face. They will be, for the most part, polite. Who cares if its phoney. As far as love goes. I really think you need to find someone who really can appreciate what a BAD LIFE is. This way, they can appreciate what a GOOD LIFE is. They can understand that a GOOD LIFE is NOT one where every single want and need is taken care of. They understand that bad times happen in ones life, and its NOT NECCESARY to blame someone else for you feeling bad. But, youre view on the world is pretty accurate. You have to decide if you are gonna let it slap you in the face, or build yourself up enough where it is AFRAID to slap you. Believe me the SECOND is far more attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Sell your house and move to Los Angeles, Blondesmiler. There's a severe shortage of serious-minded single women here. Link to post Share on other sites
ianandris Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 You think LA is bad, come to Utah. Link to post Share on other sites
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