How do you deal with being ugly ?

[soserious1]

Women are stupid. They're wired differently to men. Why aren't there many female engineers or scientists ? Or managers of large companies ? Because women are not smart enough to do those jobs.

 

 

I dunno.. from what you've been saying the vast majority have been pretty smart, they're managing to avoid being involved with you.

[carhill]

Yeah, I'm thinking one of those "stupid" women, the one who hatched him, is going to come along with a bar of soap any minute now

[sparklemama]

I can tell you that your attitude is most likely what is pushing these women away.You have low self-esteem and on top of that have it set in your mind that these women will not want you so you give that vibe out when you go up to women.I have seen plenty of not so attractive men who really make a good life for themselves as a lot of times it really has to do with what type of person you are.From reading your prior comments i have to say first gain respect for women before you even approach them.No one owes you anything and it seems like you have had some bad situations and now all women are to blame.No one wants to be around a depressing person all the time who is only going to make them more miserable and then on top of that if your not really much to look at well i don blame them for not wanting to waste their time

 

Seriously work on your self and your attitude and get to know a woman let her get to know your personality before you try to ask her out and you will find someone or you can choose to be miserable for the rest of your life about something you can not change.Its your call!

[Els]

Non of that made any sense.

 

Wow, right on script. Thanks for proving my point!

[SoulSearch_CO]

I dunno.. from what you've been saying the vast majority have been pretty smart, they're managing to avoid being involved with you.

:lmao: HAHAHAHA - brilliantly put.

 

Nice generalizations, BP. However, studies on gender vs IQ are inconclusive. How is it that YOU are so much smarter than all those scientists? I'm in awe at your brain power.

 

Kind of weird, though, that the majority of guys I have dated, I am better at English, math, and science. Hmmm. Stupid girl - "How do you spell ______?" I'm the freaking spell-checker. And nearly every one of those guys has said to me that they hated math because they weren't any good at it. Now, me? I excelled at math. So your little theory about how dumb women are doesn't really hold water.

 

You are a troll - here to anger the women and see what a stir your worthless little posts could cause. I'm glad to see, however, that any self-respecting man on this board is not backing you anymore.

[BoredPerson]

Wow, right on script. Thanks for proving my point!

 

No, what I mean is that you cannot articulate a single point and be even slightly convincing. Your post was devoid of any logic or structure. I still have no idea what you were on about.

 

I can shorten it by saying, things that a pink, puppies, lolly pops, feelings and ovaries.

[BoredPerson]

:lmao: HAHAHAHA - brilliantly put.

 

Nice generalizations, BP. However, studies on gender vs IQ are inconclusive. How is it that YOU are so much smarter than all those scientists? I'm in awe at your brain power.

 

Kind of weird, though, that the majority of guys I have dated, I am better at English, math, and science. Hmmm. Stupid girl - "How do you spell ______?" I'm the freaking spell-checker. And nearly every one of those guys has said to me that they hated math because they weren't any good at it. Now, me? I excelled at math. So your little theory about how dumb women are doesn't really hold water.

 

You are a troll - here to anger the women and see what a stir your worthless little posts could cause. I'm glad to see, however, that any self-respecting man on this board is not backing you anymore.

 

I'm not the one generalising you are !

[SoulSearch_CO]

I'm not the one generalising you are !

About what, exactly? Do you know what generalizing means? Because I have no clue WTF "generalising" is.

[Els]

Okay, since I'm in a particularly nice way today, I'll rephrase it in easy-to-understand terms just for you, BoredPerson.

 

You want women to like you.

You ASSUME the reason they don't is because women don't like ugly men.

We're women. One of us might even be that hot woman in the workplace whom you thought you didn't have a chance with.

We KNOW that we don't mind ugly men if they have other positive characteristics.

So who knows better about what women really want? Us women, or you the man?

 

If you STILL can't get that, sorry. I don't have a kindergarten teaching cert so I wouldn't be able to simplify it further.

[BoredPerson]

Ever thought that you might not understand it because:

a) You're not nearly as intelligent as your ego would lead you to think

b) Whenever ANY woman says anything, you think she's saying 'things that a pink, puppies, lolly pops, feelings and ovaries'?

 

 

There are a lot of people a LOT smarter than myself. Though I have never had much of an opportunity to reach my potential. My potential being the understanding of complex material. A degree in hard mathematics or engineering would be a good test. As well as numerous tasks that could eventuate in the workforce.

 

My director, my boss, is a female. She is a very intelligent woman. I enjoy having meetings with her because of the brilliant insight she almost always provides. Same as my direct supervisor (who is male) and a few of the other senior people. They're all extremely intelligent be they man or woman.

 

I don't think all women say is 'things that a pink, puppies, lolly pops, feelings and ovaries'.

 

With women 80% of it is and always will be based on your looks. Women like cute good looking men and it is a big part of what helps them to perceive your personality. Big, ugly, greasy men like myself are almost never given a fair opportunity.

 

The other problem is that women like to love players and then they love to hate them. So what they will do is go and shag some guy then they will take out all of their aggression on some man they can percieve as being a player through their own discriminatory and often racist views, yet who is unattractive enough that they would not want to shag.

[BoredPerson]

About what, exactly? Do you know what generalizing means? Because I have no clue WTF "generalising" is.

 

(1) You've generalised by saying that men and women are the same. When that cannot be strictly true because there are enormous differences between the make up of the sexes. When you say that there are no trends in a population that is a generalisation. The difference is that you're generalising by dismissal.

 

(2) When you say 'my boyfriend did this therefore this about an entire population' you are also generalising. Its like saying 'the black man was bad therefore all black people are bad.

 

(3) This isn't about your post, but generally for it to be a generalisation you should need to either say, or imply clearly that you mean all of the population.

[BoredPerson]

Okay, since I'm in a particularly nice way today, I'll rephrase it in easy-to-understand terms just for you, BoredPerson.

 

You want women to like you.

You ASSUME the reason they don't is because women don't like ugly men.

We're women. One of us might even be that hot woman in the workplace whom you thought you didn't have a chance with.

We KNOW that we don't mind ugly men if they have other positive characteristics.

So who knows better about what women really want? Us women, or you the man?

 

If you STILL can't get that, sorry. I don't have a kindergarten teaching cert so I wouldn't be able to simplify it further.

 

Just because you are saying that doesn't mean it is true.

 

Doesn't mean you are not bat**** high and don't know what it is that you want or what you are on about or when you pick a man that you really know why you are picking him.

 

Finally you don't try to root chicks (at least I'd hope not) so you have less of an idea what it is like to try.

 

You're basically trying to say that a consumer would make a better salesman than an experienced salesman because the consumer knows what to buy.

[SoulSearch_CO]

(1) You've generalised by saying that men and women are the same. When that cannot be strictly true because there are enormous differences between the make up of the sexes. When you say that there are no trends in a population that is a generalisation. The difference is that you're generalising by dismissal.

 

(2) When you say 'my boyfriend did this therefore this about an entire population' you are also generalising. Its like saying 'the black man was bad therefore all black people are bad.

 

(3) This isn't about your post, but generally for it to be a generalisation you should need to either say, or imply clearly that you mean all of the population.

(1) WHERE did I state "men and women are the same?"

 

(2) WHERE did I say that just because men I've dated have done "such and such," that ALL men are like that?

 

(3) Einstein - it's spelled GENERALIZATION.

[BoredPerson]

(1) WHERE did I state "men and women are the same?"

 

(2) WHERE did I say that just because men I've dated have done "such and such," that ALL men are like that?

 

(3) Einstein - it's spelled GENERALIZATION.

 

You basically implied that all men are the same. Furthermore when you refuted my opinion you basically said 'there are no trends within this population'. Essentially what you are doing is speaking for everyone which is generalising.

 

It can be spelled with an s which is the british english version or a z which is american english.

[SoulSearch_CO]

You know - I was going to put some effort into this post and actually started (and wasted 15 mins of my life) looking up studies, history - to back up my claims. And I just don't care. You're yet another misogynist and not worth my time and effort because you won't change. I actually have PLENTY of real-world proof to back up the stuff I'M saying. You do not, and yet you will continue spewing nonsense. So I'm done with it. I don't want to waste my time.

 

Mission accomplished, BP - you've gotten yet another woman to reject you because of your ugliness.

[SoulSearch_CO]

Man, this guy reminds me of Chris250.

[BoredPerson]

Man, this guy reminds me of Chris250.

 

I probably remind you of countless young men who would come to such as site which is advertised as providing 'help' only to be faced with a fiercy feminist diatribe of hatred towards anthing that is different.

[BoredPerson]

You know - I was going to put some effort into this post and actually started (and wasted 15 mins of my life) looking up studies, history - to back up my claims. And I just don't care. You're yet another misogynist and not worth my time and effort because you won't change. I actually have PLENTY of real-world proof to back up the stuff I'M saying. You do not, and yet you will continue spewing nonsense. So I'm done with it. I don't want to waste my time.

 

Mission accomplished, BP - you've gotten yet another woman to reject you because of your ugliness.

 

No doubt meaningless statistics such as 'men earn 17% more than women' OMG GIRL POWER !!!

 

I don't think you even know what you are saying. First you claim you are not generalising and secondly you claim to have statistics to back this up.

 

I'm interested to see what you could possibly present that would settle the debate between the level of intelligence between men and women. Most likely you would be repeating someone else's opinion published in a journal somewhere.

 

I prefer to believe the facts that I observe with my own two eyes and to rely on evidence presented by experts to help me form that opinion.

 

The reason my opinion is to offensive to you is because there is a danger that a point of view can be taken to the absolute in saying that 'men are smarter than women' a small minded individual (such as yourself) might take that to mean any given man will be smarter than any given woman.

 

So we need to present these things in such a way that peanuts can understand. Which is why we say that it is horrible and evil to generalise and that you must really on 'studies'. The truth is almost all social research will rely on generalising their research.

 

So there you go... I have an opinion. You'll just have to accept that sometimes people have those.

[SpanksTheMonkey]

There are a lot of people a LOT smarter than myself. Though I have never had much of an opportunity to reach my potential. My potential being the understanding of complex material. A degree in hard mathematics or engineering would be a good test. As well as numerous tasks that could eventuate in the workforce.

 

My director, my boss, is a female. She is a very intelligent woman. I enjoy having meetings with her because of the brilliant insight she almost always provides. Same as my direct supervisor (who is male) and a few of the other senior people. They're all extremely intelligent be they man or woman.

 

There are many people smarter than myself and there are many people vastly less intelligent. That includes you.

 

I don't think all women say is 'things that a pink, puppies, lolly pops, feelings and ovaries'? I think that is what women like YOU end up saying.

 

With women 80% of it is and always will be based on your looks. Women like cute good looking men and it is a big part of what helps them to percieve your personality. Big, ugly, greasy men like myself are almost never given a fair opportunity.

 

The other problem is that women like to love players and then they love to hate them. So what they will do is go and shag some guy then they will take out all of their aggression on some man they can percieve as being a player through their own discsriminatory and often racist views, yet who is unattractive enough that they would not want to shag.

 

Hence the comments here about how I am only interested in boobs or something similar.

Bored I recommend you stop insulting people Ive seen members banned for less then what you have shown in this thread be bitter what ever but id chill out if I were you and you gave a dam about being a member here...

[Els]

Though I have never had much of an opportunity to reach my potential. My potential being the understanding of complex material.

 

Well, when you've reached your potential, do let me know, and I'll give you a fair chance by actually taking the time to respond properly to the two posts that you addressed to me.

 

I'm afraid my time would be wasted before you've achieved that, since I'm betting you'll just say, for the THIRD time, 'This is so (insert random excuse) that I don't understand it'.

[era]

go get some freaking plastic surgery.

 

BoredPerson...

 

Is this a viable option for you?

[stepka]

Big, ugly, greasy men like myself are almost never given a fair opportunity.

 

I just figured it out for you boredperson--you're greasy--you need a bath! I'd a figured it out sooner, but I was too busy thinking about my ovaries and what Paris Hilton could be up to right now. Women definitely don't like dirty men, though exceptions could be found even for that.

[RecordProducer]

Bored Person, I can understand where you're coming from. I realize that looks play a role in dating and might prevent people from giving you a chance. But, I really don't think that friends and coworkers treat you badly because of your looks. Maybe you THINK it's because of it. People suck; they treat other people badly, too.

 

I've been treated horribly by so many people, often precisely because I am attactive. My cheer and optimism make them even more hateful, because they think I have something that they don't. Women don't want to hang out with me because they feel threatened. Men only want to get in my pants, but I rarely ever liked anyone of them. At least if I were pretty enough to be a model or an actress, but I am really just cute. Cute enough to suffer because of it.

 

My point is that looks don't define happiness. It only influences your dating life, but you only need one woman. Yes, she probably won't be Miss Universe, but if you're looking for inner beauty, you might just find someone who is looking for the same. Ugly people can be happy too and good-looking people can be unhappy also.

[Yamaha]

Can you explain what is attractive to u ( in a women )?

 

Is her looks the most important thing or is it the personality?

[Love_Listener]

I advice you let go, seriously do the Darwin deed. The problem with being ugly is that it prevents you from having something that is so fundamental, love. It doesn't matter how much money you make, or don't make, its not going to make any difference.

 

Take it from me. I was practically a mute when I was young and never dated anyone. Fortunately, until I got older I thought that was a reason that no one liked me. Now i'm ballsy as hell, have a nice car and a fair amount of money but i'm still extremely unhappy. I've been the nice guy and have done all but sell my soul for women, I've also tried the coc*y but funny thing with no success. I'm not overweight, but i'm a fairly short redhead with freckles covering my body. It doesn't matter dude, its not going to get better. Personally I know people are so disgusted by me that they avoid looking at me even though I've surrounded my self with nice clothes, nice things and the appropriate personality.

 

You have a couple options. Let go, or find some other purpose is life. Remember, you can't spent your life trying to walk if your a paraplegic. If you do decide to take the quick option, don't be selfish remember your family still loves you and you shouldn't hurt them. A good idea for you is to join the military and do something stupid, you'll be a hero and no one will blame themselves for what happened to you... Good Luck