Thomas X Forever Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Anyone know the safest of these? I've heard 1-ad. And I've heard Xtreme Tren. What do you think is the safest on Earth? Please don't give the tired, cliche, dead horse beaten "No steroid/PH is safe" or "You shouldn't use those whoamg!!!!!!!!1111" I've heard it all. Not looking to hear about that now. Only want to hear what the best and safest is. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Those things are bad for you. Only idiots take supplements like that. Link to post Share on other sites
O'bama Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Please don't give the tired, cliche, dead horse beaten "No steroid/PH is safe" or "You shouldn't use those I'm fast becoming something of a cliche. Anyway, I asked my medical team for their expert opinion, and they think it's best for me to stick to pure-and-simple hard work in the gym (in fact, I'm posting this between reps on Air Force One!). They say that trying for short cuts to success by using such "enhancers" could shrink my balls. And as leader of the free world, that's a chance I just can't take! Link to post Share on other sites
westernxer Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I recommend watching "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" if you want to learn about the steroid controversy. It changed my perceptions regarding what is fact and what is fiction. Link to post Share on other sites
Enema Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Try bodybuilding.com forum man. There's a section just for supps/cycles. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Thomas X Forever Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 I like you enema. Your avatar picture is quite beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites
mark982 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 pro-hormones are alittle rough on the liver,so it's best to use a liver protectant(google superdrol),roids there isn't no difference between male hrt and and steroid use. watch to see if your red blood cell count raises, if so need weekly blood draw(in my case a pint every week),also need to watch for testy shrinkage if so need some hcg,then you gotta watch for e-2(estrogen) levels. all in all you just can't stick a needle in your azz, and go about gaining muscle,there's soooo many things to watch out for.but the one thing i've tried that i won't use again is ANY tren product.causes shortness of breath,so if you're a cardio fan forget it. and it makes you extremely aggressive,which is all good in the gym till someone says the slightest thing to pizz you off. be smart and study up on each one,there's ALOT to learn. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Thomas X Forever Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 Thank you mark. Would you say pro-hormones I'd be better with, than steroids? Because I am very underweight at this point, I have tried eating 5,000 calories a day for a long time and it did nothing. I have an ectomorphic body type. (Except unbroad shoulders. I have a good shoulder broadness). Nothing has worked. Need steroids or PH. Link to post Share on other sites
mark982 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 what kind of calories are you eating? while it is hard for the naturally skinny person to gain weight,it can be done. Just cause your eating 5,000 cals a day you might need more than that(clean eating) try eating every couple hours and see what happens, some pros are eating in excess of 14,000 cals a day.try some mass proteins drinks,alot of them mix with milk and their 1400 cals per drink(gnc--ugg) As far as which i prefer--- this is only me,and i'm not advising anyone to use illegal substances!! pro hormones give you a drier weight gain,where steroids especially test cyp will give you alot of water weight gains,which do look nice,but after you cycle off the gains disappear,not all but some.where with prohormones the gains will stay with you. with you being naturally skinny,i'd stay away from tren products,while you will make great strengh gains, tren is for a cutting cycle.and the last thing you want is to lose weight. i hope you have a good source lined up,alot of "fakes" out there.visit alot of the bodybuilding sites,and learn. imho bodybuilding .com sucks.I would also see a dr. before you start any cycle and get a complete blood workup. that way you can keep a eye on thing if(or when) they change.your dr. is your friend on this on,i wouln't relly tell him that you're gonna do a cycle. just say you feel run down. but before you do anything "READ" everything you can about what your planning to do. have you read up on post cycle therapy?i can not stress enough how important this is--very important. since your shutting you bodies natural ability to produce testosterone,you need something to bring your nads back.I'll repeat "READ" before you leap,you'll save yourself alot of grief. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Thomas X Forever Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 Mark, you taking the time out to post all that is very much appreciated. I can not tell you how much your concern is valued. Thank you. I do know about PCT's. I do want to stay away from steroids my friend. I want the best pro-hormone. The previous bests were 1-ad and 4-ad. Now I hear 3-ad is good. Do you by chance know of any pro-hormones that could do what I'm looking to do? If you don't mind, please IM "Not ThomasX". I would greatly appreciate your insight. Link to post Share on other sites
Mahatma Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 It already has been stated, but Bodybuilding.com would be a great place. The majority of the community there doesn't use gear, and will get on you for it, but there are quite a few people who do use. You could probably find a lot of good information there. A lot of the people at bodybuilding.com do not know what they hell they are talking about, but some would have their doctorate in bodybuilding if it existed. Good luck, and don't destroy yourself. ... also, have you tried creatine? I would say the order of things go protein shakes, creatine, hgh, roids. Link to post Share on other sites
mark982 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 hey thomas your not set up to recieve im's gonna have to fix your profile. Link to post Share on other sites
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