Such a beautiful dream!

[Owl]

I think that danger extends far beyond the borders of this site, Lizzie. And think that danger is a lot closer to home (her home) as well.

 

Have you read her story? The bottomline is that this is a 15 year old teen girl who's been involved online with a 27 year old man. This is her "eternal beloved", and the person that her parents apparently approve of and have opted to pay for his flight to come be with her in person.

 

I think the risk we pose to her "fragility" is much less than what she's facing "in the real world".

[Lizzie60]

Yes.. I know.. but my point was this one: some LSers are childish, and can be crual.

[Athena]

That's why I advise her to stay away from LS.. it's not a good place for her.. some mean adults on here.. that can make more damage than a heartbreak.. She could be a very fragile little soul... for crual adults to wander around.

 

Yip, I was mean to her -- so as not to encourage her to stay on the boards (the three she's been posting on-- Marriage, OW, and Infidelity, and she's a kid).

It's called tough love.

[Owl]

Yes.. I know.. but my point was this one: some LSers are childish, and can be crual.

 

True enough.

 

And I completely agree with your suggestion that she check out a website more age appropriate for her.

 

But I think the "childishness" and "cruelness" of some LS posters is a very minor little point compared to the REAL issue at hand...deal with the big issues first...then worry about some childish poster.

 

I don't think she's all that "delicate"...as much as spoiled. What she really needs more than anything else is a dose of reality that might wake her up to the REAL issues, rather than mollycoddling her sensitive artistic nature.

 

If she continues on the path she's on, and that her parents are encouraging...the damage is going to be a lot worse than whatever we could say to her on this site.

[RomanticBride]

Lizzie- Thank you. I'll try LOULOU. Thank you very much for actually caring about me. ((((Lizzie))))

 

GorillaTheater- You care about my heart? Thanks. it seems you two and Eternal Beloved are the only ones that do. My parents? Yeah, they like me well enough. But we're not really all that close since most of the time I only want them to "GET OUT OF MY ROOM!!"

 

I think this will be my last post on here, because I have seriously got to get away from the haters. But Lizzie and Gorilla--- Please Please PLEASE post a comment or two or fifty on http://rosegardenmusings.webs.com/apps/guestbook/ Keep in touch, kay?

 

Owl- Quit prophesying my doom. I beg you. And what issue? I love him. He loves me. That's not a bad thing. My PARENTS don't even think he's a pedophile. So kindly shut up and stop marring a young teenager's heart. Thank you.

 

Athena- I hate tough love. Maybe if you'd have a little more trust (In EB, in me, in your own life) then you wouldn't be paranoid about your husband cheating. I can well predict that you (And the other haters) will never be truly happy.

 

And by the by, I read in a psychology book that many people, married people, no matter how happy they are, often think that they missed out on something when they left their high school sweetheart.

[GorillaTheater]

RB, I'm certainly not the only one here who cares about your heart. Owl certainly does, and he's the most articulate in expressing why. Nobody here wants to see you get hurt.

 

And I'm sorry, but as a man over three times older than you, I would not be comfortable posting on your blog. It may not strike you as creepy, but I would certainly feel creepy doing so. Actually, I'd urge you to stick around LS, but perhaps on the General Relationship forum instead of "Infidelity" and so forth. I'm interested in how this turns out for you and like I said, I'm not the only one.

[Owl]

Owl- Quit prophesying my doom. I beg you. And what issue? I love him. He loves me. That's not a bad thing. My PARENTS don't even think he's a pedophile. So kindly shut up and stop marring a young teenager's heart. Thank you.

 

 

So what you want me to do is lie to you.

 

Sorry...that's not in your best interests.

 

And there is nothing in any of my posts aimed to "mar young teenager's heart".

 

Every single thing I've said was with the single minded intent to do right by you...not to hurt you, belittle you, or make you feel bad.

 

Once again...telling me to "shut up" is a clear sign of the HUGE sense of entitlement you've built up...which screams to me that you're used to taking this tack and getting your own way with the adults around you. Sorry princess...once again, it doesn't work that way in the real world.

 

Your parent's "belief" does nothing to reassure me about his intentions...on the contrary. Now...it's entirely possible (although highly improbable) that he IS approaching this with the mindset of being your "eternal beloved".

 

That doesn't make this situation one whit less dangerous. On the contrary...it would suggest to me that you are engaging with someone who is emotionally retarded.

 

A fully emotionally developed and stable 27 year old man does not fall in love over the internet with a 15 year old girl. Your previous reference to Edgar Allen Poe is a great example of this. Look at how wonderfully things turned out for him.

 

Realize that this isn't intended to insult him, or you...but it's an observation on the likely characteristics of a 27 year old man who's fallen in love with a young girl with a princess complex.

[Athena]

Athena- I hate tough love. Maybe if you'd have a little more trust (In EB, in me, in your own life) then you wouldn't be paranoid about your husband cheating. I can well predict that you (And the other haters) will never be truly happy.

Hey RB, I read your blog just now. I particularly like the one you tried to post while camping -- its beautifully written, and I can see that when you write about what you know and your feelings, you do well. So, keep that up!

 

As for tough love... <shrug> my kids like me -- 18 year old daughter and 22 year old son... so I guess I can't be all that bad... had dinner with my son yesterday on his birthday, and my daughter invited me up to the city tomorrow to hang out.

My kid's friends all 'friended' ME on Facebook! I was very surprised, but that just goes to show that my tough love on them all (yup, friends included) didn't lead them to hate me, nor to throw me out of their rooms!

 

From the rest of your blog entries, I somehow got the idea that you are lonely. I also got the idea your Eternal Beloved is your fantasy man that you haven't yet met... or else he would be at least one person commenting on your blog, right? And springing in here to defend you, right?

And I highly doubt your parents would ever have been allowed to read ANYTHING you have written, never mind your love chats between you and your EB... I also don't see any ring on your finger?! hmm

 

Anyway, I don't hate you.

I don't think its appropriate you hanging out on the Infidelity board, misrepresenting who you are from the get go, and getting snarky and confrontational with people here...

So now that you've shown your face 'n all... stick around on the other boards... yip, and I am sure a few posters here will see you around (we don't just post on this board).

 

As for you calling my H's infidelities my 'paranoia' -- he has actually admitted to all 8 affairs, so how can it be in my head?

<<I can well predict that you (And the other haters) will never be truly happy.>> I am not a hater. Are you a liar? Cuz you came on the boards completely misrepresenting yourself...

As for the comment 'I will never be truly happy' -- is this your wish on me? Because if it is, I send it right back to you... and this is how these spells/curses work... so you'd be advised not to do that.

 

The bottom line of my posts to you was that you were too young for the Infidelity boards... if you think that means I am a 'hater' of you... then you are wrong.

Why not understand some constructive advice? Hmm?

[Dexter Morgan]

I had the most wonderful dream last night about my Eternal Beloved. I was at his house, and apparently (in the dream only) he was married. His wife was the ugliest old pig I had ever had the misfortune of laying eyes on. Well, Eternal Beloved held me to his side as he loudly told Wifey that he loved me and not her and had chosen me! We kissed passionately and she burst into tears. The next bit of the dream that I remember was she was chasing us in a beat-up minivan, while we were in a convertible. She kept swerving all over the road because she was crying. Eternal Beloved was still snuggling me whilst driving, and every so often I would look back at the scraggly-haired wretch in back of me and gloat at her, hurling insults.

Even though I don't think I would've liked it if he were married in real life (because I would be worried about the same happening to me) I woke up feeling very satisfied at being chosen over another, and in some cruel sick way, I liked seeing this other crack-whore get what she had coming. Though that was just the way I reacted in the dream. Dreams are dreams, don't blame me for my emotions in them. But either way, it was the best dream I'd had in long time!

 

Ok, so basically part of the "beauty" of this dream is revelling in the pain of this "man's" wife.

 

gee......how nice

[Dexter Morgan]

I mean really... why spew the abhorrence?

 

Her fiance is not married. The dream probably has some interpretable meaning.

 

She enjoyed it.

 

Why no love?

 

Because she was salivating over the pain she cause a BS in her dream.

 

What the hell is there to love about that unless you are a cheater or a proud spouse screwer yourself. (and yes, I already know the answer to that one where you are concerned.)

 

 

IMO loathing only brings on more loathing.

 

well said...there was enough loathing and disdain for the represented BS in her dream....but I guess ya didn't seem to care about that loathing huh?

 

 

IMO the OP was trying to bring something light and fresh, lovely even to this board.

 

by revelling in the pain caused to this dream BS? Uh........ok

[Dexter Morgan]

So you loved the idea of laughing at his hideous wife as you ruined her life?

 

I'd say that this is some pretty deep insight into your character.

 

boy you said a mouthful there.

 

 

So what makes you think that your viewpoint would be welcomed?

 

well this is LS afterall...lots of people are here that get all giddy that they laid down someone elses spouse. and it was well received by the others that revel in the same thing.

 

 

Either way...I'd suggest that you stick to blogging. Let the people who like your 16th century writing and twisted viewpoint come to your blog...please don't try to foist this pap off on those of us who didn't ask for it.

 

Gotta remember Owl...this is LS...lots of worthless individuals here get a kick out of that story about a BS being destroyed.

[Owl]

Wait til you read the rest of this thread, Dex.

 

She's not actually an "OW" at all.

 

She's a 15 year old girl in love with a 27year old man that she's met via online gaming/internet...and her parents are paying for this man to fly out to meet with her in person soon. THIS is her "eternal beloved".

[Dexter Morgan]

Wait til you read the rest of this thread, Dex.

 

She's not actually an "OW" at all.

 

She's a 15 year old girl in love with a 27year old man that she's met via online gaming/internet...and her parents are paying for this man to fly out to meet with her in person soon. THIS is her "eternal beloved".

 

Ya, just did. I was going by the responses in the first page...they seemed to love it. Things after that seemed to turn sour for her.

 

I know she isn't an OW, but her thoughts are disgusting to say the least. Whether or not her "eternal beloved" has a wife or not(didn't see in anything I read yet) is beside the point. She had a dream about salivating over hurting someone else, then when woke up, felt good about it.

 

One of these days, someone is going to hurt her real bad...and sorry to say, but she will deserve it.

 

then maybe she'll give a sh#t about someone else.

[Lizzie60]

RB.. thank you... but I haven't read your blog... and I don't intend to start checking it and writing in it.. I spend most of my free time here.. if you need any advices..

 

One more thing.. Athena is a very nice lady.. and you can trust her... she's not a hater.. trust me I know that.. She was betrayed and I am an OW.. so she would hate me..

 

She's not a judgemental person.

 

Anyway.. check LOULOU.. you might find some new friends there.

[Dexter Morgan]

And, when I first posted this here, it was because I had had a dream of being the other woman and thought this a good place to post it. I had no idea it would turn into a lengthy argument about my credibility.

 

for me it isn't about your "credibility"...if you dream of being an other woman, and want to be one, and yearn to hurt someone's wife someday....it says something about your character....and the type of dipsh#t man you will get in the future.

[Dexter Morgan]

One more thing.. Athena is a very nice lady.. and you can trust her... she's not a hater..

 

I'll tell you what a hater is....someone that has an evil grin at the idea that she caused someone's wife alot of pain.

[PhoenixRise]

Lizzie- Thank you. I'll try LOULOU. Thank you very much for actually caring about me. ((((Lizzie))))

 

GorillaTheater- You care about my heart? Thanks. it seems you two and Eternal Beloved are the only ones that do. My parents? Yeah, they like me well enough. But we're not really all that close since most of the time I only want them to "GET OUT OF MY ROOM!!"

 

I think this will be my last post on here, because I have seriously got to get away from the haters. But Lizzie and Gorilla--- Please Please PLEASE post a comment or two or fifty on http://rosegardenmusings.webs.com/apps/guestbook/ Keep in touch, kay?

 

Owl- Quit prophesying my doom. I beg you. And what issue? I love him. He loves me. That's not a bad thing. My PARENTS don't even think he's a pedophile. So kindly shut up and stop marring a young teenager's heart. Thank you.

 

Athena- I hate tough love. Maybe if you'd have a little more trust (In EB, in me, in your own life) then you wouldn't be paranoid about your husband cheating. I can well predict that you (And the other haters) will never be truly happy.

 

And by the by, I read in a psychology book that many people, married people, no matter how happy they are, often think that they missed out on something when they left their high school sweetheart.

 

RB

 

Are you into Vampire Romance novels? Your refering to this online boyfriend as "Eternal Beloved" and "your Angel" makes me wonder.

 

You should know that you are not this man's high school sweetheart. His high school years are far behind him as is HIS high school sweetheart.

 

Your internet boyfriend sounds like a classic pedophile. Pedophiles say and do whatever they need to in order to gain the trust of the child they want to exploit.

 

They tell you that you are beautiful and they make you believe that only they can truly understand you. They make you feel special and mature and that the love you share is just misunderstood.

 

The truth is that you ARE beautiful and special. As special and beautiful as a teenage girl can be. The other truth is that for an emotionally healthy 25 year old man there is NOTHING about any 15 year old girl that should be attractive.

 

I know you said you are leaving, and truth be told, you shouldn't be posting on adult forums. But on the off chance that you read this I had to say it. My heart hurts for you because if this is all real, and you are unlucky enough to enounter this man face to face, you will be in real danger.

 

You are young and you can't see it.

Good Luck