what do you guys think of the "s" word?

[sveltskye]

Ok, I hope this isn't something that's been addressed a million times on this board already, but what do you guys think of calling a girl a slut? Is it ever warrented? What about someone who wears revealing clothes but doesn't put out? Guy/girl double standards? (I call guys "man sluts" when deserved, but there's no actual guy specific word). Is a girl who has more casual or adventurous sex slutty or liberated? Do guys actually want to date girls who're adventurous in bed, or just have sexual affairs with them?

[carhill]

I've called women many things but never a slut. What they do with their bodies is their business. If they want to sleep with a thousand guys, that's their business. As long as they respect me and treat me decent, numbers are just numbers.

 

My wife liked dressing up in 'revealing' clothes occasionally. It made her feel attractive and sexy. Good on her. Why be limiting?

 

I've never seen a correlation between an attractively dressed woman and 'putting out', if you mean such a woman is assumed to put out since she dresses up to look sexy and attractive. Sounds like a bit of bad male socialization to me

[2sure]

Calling someone that word in particular says much more about the person saying it than the intended subject.

 

It screams: I am jealous, I am insecure, I demean other people ro make myself feel superior. And it may make a person feel better to do that, but it sure doesnt make them look superior. It makes them look cheesy and small.

[sveltskye]

Yeah, I'm of two minds on this. On the one (stronger) hand: the word is really disgusting and double standard-y to me, and it really is sad that we as a society guilt trip women for anything to do with their sexuality that is completely their choice. It seems like a power thing to me.

On the other hand, I do think there is such a thing as tact and discreetness, and I hate show offs, so sometimes so called "slutty" attire/ behavior falls into that kind of catagory which gets on my nerves.

That's just IMHO, but I wanted to throw it out there and see what other people thought.

[Trialbyfire]

There's a time and place for revealing attire. When you have someone who's spilling out of clothing two sizes too small or flashing underwear or less, in skirts that are too short, well, I have issues with that! I also think there's age appropriate/body appropriate attire.

 

Same goes for the woman who has 100+ lovers.

 

Oversexualization = Issues.

[carhill]

OP, I've met plenty of women who dress attractively, even provocatively, but have an air of polite respectability about them. IMO, it isn't about the exteriors, or even about their sexual experience; it's about the signals they send about who they are.

 

Do guys actually want to date girls who are adventurous in bed, or just have sexual affairs with them?

 

That would depend on what the woman wants. It takes a meeting of the minds to have compatibility. I don't think being adventurous in bed has anything to do with one's potential as a date, affair or anything else. It's one expression of who one is, not their totality.

 

I have noted an interesting tone on LS, almost the antithesis, in that women appear to stereotype men who have low numbers of sexual partners the same way (as a negative feature) as men do women with high numbers. Gender stereotypes are alive and well

[Trialbyfire]

To be fair, I had two specific women in mind, when posting, both who were inappropriate within the workplace.

 

Both were in their forties, wore very, very short skirts, low tops and shoes so high, they could barely walk in them, kind of shuffling along, T & A stuck out at harsh angles. Both were the homeliest women I've ever seen, with full makeup on. At least one had nice legs...the other, bony legs.

 

The first one, had waist length, brittle, overprocessed platinum hair, buck teeth, recessive chin, no lips to speak of and very small eyes. Her voice was nasally, with a braying laugh, a woman who would consistently tell off-off-colour jokes, in that kind of slimy way.

 

The other looked like a crack whore, from too many nights being a barfly, that kind of used look on her face, with pock marks galore in her skin. She had a daughter she used to go clubbing with, where the two would bring men home to their apartment.

 

Men would stop, drop and roll when these women were coming. Run, forrest, run!!

 

So, it's difficult not to judge, when you see these two pathetic examples of womanhood.

 

As far as men with low numbers, I have zero problems with that. My first love was a virgin.

[girl68]

Calling someone that word in particular says much more about the person saying it than the intended subject.

 

It screams: I am jealous, I am insecure, I demean other people ro make myself feel superior. And it may make a person feel better to do that, but it sure doesnt make them look superior. It makes them look cheesy and small.

 

I disagree entirely. If I call you, another woman, or a man a slut that does not mean I'm jealous or insecure of said person.

 

When a woman dresses provocatively she is dressing slutty, she may or may not be a slut but she's dressing the part. I can and will call her a slut, but that is how I mean for that to be interpreted.

 

When a woman IS a slut and by that I mean she's known for her easy reputation and it's a known fact that she's easy and sleeps around well then I can and will call her a slut. Now to me, there are 2 versions of sluts: the good ones and the "bad" ones. The good ones are the ones that do in fact sleep around and are "liberal" like you said. They feel they can, and want to sleep around just like men and that no one shall judge them on their behaviour. They are safe. That said this is a "good" slut IMO. (Example: Samatha sex in the city). The "bad" slut: this is a gal who wants to be a "good" slut and thinks she can be but really, she's insecure, sleeps with men who woo her into bed, wakes up feeling, used, and guilty. (Example: my slutty friends who don't know how to sleep around).

 

So Lady, I'm not jealous of women who sleep around. I will call them sluts, and mean it. Sometimes I mean it in a "good" way sometimes I mean it in a "bad" way. But never am I meaning it as "oh man, I'm so jealous she's a whore."

[carhill]

Great description, TBF; I feel like I was there

 

How about a more modest serial monogamist who had maybe 8-10 lovers per year for 15-20 years? She could be in her late 30's-early 40's, get married at an age similar to when I did and have had a couple hundred partners. That doesn't seem far-fetched at all and not much different than some men. If numbers supposedly don't damage a man, why would they damage a woman?

 

In your example, which do you think was the chicken and which was the egg, meaning - did the numbers cause them to become pathetic examples of womanhood or were they already that and the numbers just proved it out? Of course, I'm assuming, as I presume you are, that their number count is high and they exemplify what the OP was inferring by the word slut.

 

Interesting that a low numbers conservative guy is examining this

[2sure]

When a woman dresses provocatively she is dressing slutty, she may or may not be a slut but she's dressing the part.

I can and will call her a slut, but that is how I mean for that to be interpreted.

 

This is really funny. And yes, I know you dont know why.

[girl68]

When a woman dresses provocatively she is dressing slutty, she may or may not be a slut but she's dressing the part.

I can and will call her a slut, but that is how I mean for that to be interpreted.

 

This is really funny. And yes, I know you dont know why.

 

Real cute, that you don't care to follow up with an explanation.

 

Wait, let me guess, I'm jealous of the said skankily dressed woman???

[GorillaTheater]

"Slut" is such a low-brow, amateurish insult. Alot of people fail to sufficiently challenge themselves.

[girl68]

"Slut" is such a low-brow, amateurish insult. Alot of people fail to sufficiently challenge themselves.

 

What does insulting people with the slut word have to do with challenging themselves? Shall I learn more in depth insults?

[Trialbyfire]

Great description, TBF; I feel like I was there

Thanks. Yes, one actually wore a gold lame blouse to work one day!

 

How about a more modest serial monogamist who had maybe 8-10 lovers per year for 15-20 years? She could be in her late 30's-early 40's, get married at an age similar to when I did and have had a couple hundred partners. That doesn't seem far-fetched at all and not much different than some men.

I honestly haven't had much exposure to women like this. Of what I've seen, there have usually been issues associated.

 

If numbers supposedly don't damage a man, why would they damage a woman?

I hold men and women to the same standard, at least in this type of scenario.

In your example, which do you think was the chicken and which was the egg, meaning - did the numbers cause them to become pathetic examples of womanhood or were they already that and the numbers just proved it out? Of course, I'm assuming, as I presume you are, that their number count is high and they exemplify what the OP was inferring by the word slut.

I'm guessing the bolded statement since they both had major issues, including alcohol abuse. They both used to brag about their numbers, which was vomit-worth, all things considered.

 

Interesting that a low numbers conservative guy is examining this

Anything I say, can and will be used against me. Low numbers person here too!

[GorillaTheater]

Shall I learn more in depth insults?

 

If you can. Maybe you could attend some kind of workshop.

[girl68]

If you can. Maybe you could attend some kind of workshop.

 

 

I'm sorry, I'm not that creative. I have a few other burns related: whore, skank, dirty hoe. A touch less common than the slut one.

[GorillaTheater]

I'm sorry, I'm not that creative. I have a few other burns related: whore, skank, dirty hoe. A touch less common than the slut one.

 

"Spooge-gargler". I'm giving you that one for free.

[girl68]

HAHAHA never heard of that one. Good one. Hard to remember when drunk!

[2sure]

"Spooge-gargler". I'm giving you that one for free

 

Love love love that! Trying to think of a way to work into dinner convo.

 

I dunno, definitely going to have to look for some opportunity.

 

I even like the way it rolls off my tongue. Spooooge.

[sveltskye]

LMAO at what this thread turned into

[TaraMaiden]

TbF, in the UK we have a phrase for women like those in your post:

"Mutton dressed as lamb".

In other words, trying desperately to knock 20+ years off and failing desperately, but a laughing stock for all of that.

The UK is full of them.

 

But we call them Apple Tarts, too... "Apple" as in 'As old as Adam and Eve' and 'Tart' as in... "do you not have a mirror at home, dearie....?"

 

I think this dame is a huge culprit....

[2sure]

OMG. Just remembered. Last holiday season we went to a pretty big semi formal function. As we walked in I was immediately introduced to a woman...

Platinum Blond in a white halter cocktail dress. Boobs basically in the breeze. EXACTLY like the Marilyn Monroe Dress. I am POSITIVE it was purchased as part of a costume.

 

So, I immediately thought , crap - we are not dressed for this. I said to her:" WOW! I LOVE your costume! I had no idea we were to come masquerade. My Husband is ghastly with invitations."

 

Ahem. Turns out...it wasnt a costume. It was just what she chose to wear. I actually saw her in the same get up again at another event.

[Trialbyfire]

Taramaiden, Madonna is a prime example of someone who's not aging gracefully. I can respect and even admire the way she continues to stay fit, taking care of herself with a relatively physically healthy lifestyle.

 

I will pass judgement on her, in that she has blatant issues. Sex appears to be used as a form of external validation for her. I don't know what happened in her past to cause this. Right now it appears to be an outsized fear of aging, something I can't relate to. Everyone grows older. Everyone dies. That's life.

[Mary3]

I disagree entirely. If I call you, another woman, or a man a slut that does not mean I'm jealous or insecure of said person.

 

When a woman dresses provocatively she is dressing slutty, she may or may not be a slut but she's dressing the part. I can and will call her a slut, but that is how I mean for that to be interpreted.

 

When a woman IS a slut and by that I mean she's known for her easy reputation and it's a known fact that she's easy and sleeps around well then I can and will call her a slut. Now to me, there are 2 versions of sluts: the good ones and the "bad" ones. The good ones are the ones that do in fact sleep around and are "liberal" like you said. They feel they can, and want to sleep around just like men and that no one shall judge them on their behaviour. They are safe. That said this is a "good" slut IMO. (Example: Samatha sex in the city). The "bad" slut: this is a gal who wants to be a "good" slut and thinks she can be but really, she's insecure, sleeps with men who woo her into bed, wakes up feeling, used, and guilty. (Example: my slutty friends who don't know how to sleep around).

 

So Lady, I'm not jealous of women who sleep around. I will call them sluts, and mean it. Sometimes I mean it in a "good" way sometimes I mean it in a "bad" way. But never am I meaning it as "oh man, I'm so jealous she's a whore."

 

Sooooooooo.........what do you call a man who sleeps with alot of women ?

[carhill]

Lucky?...