alphamale Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Has anyone ever gotten married in the Catholic church before? If so, what did you do about the issue of living together? (if you did) no but i went to a traditional catholic wedding that lasted 2.5 hours. it was the middle of August, 95 degrees high humidity, the church had no AC. people were all dressed up and sweating like pigs. it was rediculous... Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 that's because the sacraments are center in church liturgy, not just a verbal wham-bam, thank-you-ma'am kind of thing. Basically, it's some serious shxt. and if you're serious about getting married in the church, by the Church, it's something you understand you do. The end run is to get married by the JP, then seek to have the marriage convalidated by the church. AT the altar, or up ON the altar? They are very, very different. A Catholic mass wedding, is also very different from just a Catholic wedding ceremony. at the risk of still sounding ignorant, I have no idea what you are referring to. Are you talking about former practices or contemporary ones? Though now I'm getting to thinking that this could be the difference between a Mass in which the sacrament of marriage takes place, and a convalidation ceremony where the marriage is formally recognized by the church ... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Now THAT, I assure you, is absolutely not true. You could both be any religion at all, get married on a remote island, and still raise Catholic children. All the kiddies (or anyone else for that matter) need to do is attend CCD classes, and go through the sacraments (baptism, confession, communion, and confirmation). How do I know? My single mother had me baptized in a Catholic church, and I was raised Catholic. (I have a Jewish biological father.) My mother also was baptized in a Catholic church, and raised Catholic, despite the fact that her parents were married before the justice of the peace, and my granddad wasn't Catholic. Hmm, okay, well that's what the priest told me so I don't know. I asked if we got married somewhere else other than the church (like in a garden or beach, ect.) would our marriage be recognized and he said no. Maybe certain priests feel differently about it or are more strict about it. Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Hmm, okay, well that's what the priest told me so I don't know. I asked if we got married somewhere else other than the church (like in a garden or beach, ect.) would our marriage be recognized and he said no. Maybe certain priests feel differently about it or are more strict about it. It would be recognized it just wouldn't be valid for the Catholic by their rules. So then the Catholic would have to get the marriage validated before she could share in the Holy Communion. My wife is from an 84% Catholic claiming nation so I have seen the why question many times. In order for the dream ceremony worthy of a Brides magazine pictorial the prop of church and Priest are needed. In her nation there are few high church Protestant denominations, Anglicans, Lutherians, Methodist etc available to stand in lieu of the Catholic Priest needed to solomnize the event for the government. If that show is wanted you either have to con the church, play by her rules or hire actors to play the part in the wedding show of her dreams. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I asked if we got married somewhere else other than the church (like in a garden or beach, ect.) would our marriage be recognized and he said no ... It would be recognized it just wouldn't be valid for the Catholic by their rules yup – considered "licit" (legal) but not "valid" (sacramentally speaking). In which case you petition the diocese to have your marriage convalidated. From what I understand there doesn't have to be a big old ceremony to do that – with my sister, it was filling out paperwork, meeting with the deacon at her parish as part of the preparation process and getting a document from the church saying, "Okey-dokey, you're covered" Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I asked if we got married somewhere else other than the church (like in a garden or beach, ect.) would our marriage be recognized and he said no ... It would be recognized it just wouldn't be valid for the Catholic by their rules yup – considered "licit" (legal) but not "valid" (sacramentally speaking). In which case you petition the diocese to have your marriage convalidated. From what I understand there doesn't have to be a big old ceremony to do that – with my sister, it was filling out paperwork, meeting with the deacon at her parish as part of the preparation process and getting a document from the church saying, "Okey-dokey, you're covered" Yes, this was was we did to get married in a hotel. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 no but i went to a traditional catholic wedding that lasted 2.5 hours. it was the middle of August, 95 degrees high humidity, the church had no AC. people were all dressed up and sweating like pigs. it was rediculous... oh like ganesh the elephantgod was a really sound concept Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 no but i went to a traditional catholic wedding that lasted 2.5 hours. it was the middle of August, 95 degrees high humidity, the church had no AC. people were all dressed up and sweating like pigs. it was rediculous... A lot of Catholic churches don't have AC in them. Ours doesn't, however it is in September (we live in PA with crappy weather) and there are a ton of fans in there to cool things down. Hopefully we won't be roasting. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I'm really glad you are doing those pre- marriage classes LB. I think they will be really beneficial to you and your fiance. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 that's sadistic, LB! of course, down here, AC is a must wherever you go Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'm really glad you are doing those pre- marriage classes LB. my best friend Patrick (no, not the starfish) and his wife took those classes and they've been married 20 yrs with 2 kids. but they are very traditional conservative italian catholics Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I think they are a good idea even if you aren't religious- they address important issues that many couples don't discuss before marriage. My H and I got a list of all the questions off the net and talked about them all together (minus the religious aspect). It was good to know we were on the same page with regards to kids, money, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 from what I understand, lots of churches are going that route, with premarriage counseling to help cut back on the number of divorces. And when my niece got married in Oklahoma last summer, she said that application had three classes of fees: The cheapest one (like five bucks for the license) was to sign up for and pay for pre-marriage counselling, about a four-hour class. A lot of it was practical information, but I guess the county wanted to ensure that people understood what they were getting into as well as keep the number of divorce cases down. Link to post Share on other sites
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