redtail Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Hey TDP - that's me on my avatar - aren't I adorable?! Well, as long as we are revealing who are, I too think I'm adorable in my avatar... Back to the subject, I think the fallacy of marriage and maybe life is, that we are not expected to have to struggle. There should be no conflicts or something is wrong. That will always, always bring disappointment. However, if we understand that life and marriages have their struggles, and just maybe our spouse is on the best position to partner with us to overcome them. I heard someone smarter than me once say, "we have a great marriage, we have our problems, but we have a great marriage." Problems and a great marriage are not mutually exclusive. Link to post Share on other sites
HsMomma Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, as long as we are revealing who are, I too think I'm adorable in my avatar... Back to the subject, I think the fallacy of marriage and maybe life is, that we are not expected to have to struggle. There should be no conflicts or something is wrong. That will always, always bring disappointment. However, if we understand that life and marriages have their struggles, and just maybe our spouse is on the best position to partner with us to overcome them. I heard someone smarter than me once say, "we have a great marriage, we have our problems, but we have a great marriage." Problems and a great marriage are not mutually exclusive. Exactly! And yes, redtail, you ARE indeed adorable! Link to post Share on other sites
whimsical_memory Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Just like the many women on LS? I have yet to read a woman describe herself as...average-looking, with an average-paying job, who was never popular with the opposite sex before marriage....etc....Most are gorgeous, highly successful in their careers, had their fair share of men fawning over them...etc.etc... If it makes you feel better: I am fat, unattractive (except for my eyes, they are pretty awesome, Thank you God!!), struggling single mom that does not get child support, welfare or any of those other awesome government programs that are available. I attend college full-time, have no boyfriend (since giving my life to Jesus I have been celibate and will remain that way until I get married) and no prospects for a boyfriend because I have had it drilled into my head that I am not good enough for anyone. So, there you go! A LS woman that does not profess to be beautiful or popular. Have a great day! Link to post Share on other sites
Mei Mei Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 :bunny:I have experienced a painful marriage that lasted for 19 yesrs. But when I have now been free from it for almost two years, I am moving the way towards another marriage. I think I have learnt from the past mistakes, and get more insight in looking for the right person who is committed and passionate in the level as a do. No matter how bitter the past, I still have great dream for a happy marriage! Link to post Share on other sites
NoIDidn't Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I think the people that agree with the article are similarly as jaded as its author. (Not talking specifically about anyone here, just the people that agree with it in general). Marriage is what you make of it. Some people should really learn to make their expectations more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 This is a great insight into the mind of your average moden day woman. Any woman who wonders why their man does not want to commit should read this article to see what he fears. Most women eventually turn into this and the men never knew what hit them. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 So tell me which man has a better life right now. The husband she cheated on and divorced or Hugh Hefner? Which man would you rather be? Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 So tell me which man has a better life right now. The husband she cheated on and divorced or Hugh Hefner? Which man would you rather be? The younger man.... Link to post Share on other sites
Author tami-chan Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 If it makes you feel better: I am fat, unattractive (except for my eyes, they are pretty awesome, Thank you God!!), struggling single mom that does not get child support, welfare or any of those other awesome government programs that are available. I attend college full-time, have no boyfriend (since giving my life to Jesus I have been celibate and will remain that way until I get married) and no prospects for a boyfriend because I have had it drilled into my head that I am not good enough for anyone. So, there you go! A LS woman that does not profess to be beautiful or popular. Have a great day! Why would somebody like you make me feel better?... Link to post Share on other sites
Author tami-chan Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 The younger man.... LOL....Athena!!! I mean....do men really envy Hugh Hefner? Link to post Share on other sites
NoIDidn't Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 This is a great insight into the mind of your average moden day woman. Any woman who wonders why their man does not want to commit should read this article to see what he fears. Most women eventually turn into this and the men never knew what hit them. And then came Woggle to turn the conversation into a war of the sexes.... Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 This conversation is pretty much a war of the sexes already. There are men all over the world going through what her husband went through. Link to post Share on other sites
HsMomma Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This conversation is pretty much a war of the sexes already. There are men all over the world going through what her husband went through. Oh geez, Woggle - could you PLEASE learn a new song??? I'm so tired of the same ol' lyrics from you. If you'll read the posts on this thread, the majority of us either TOTALLY disagree with the article, are offended by it or both. Why MUST everything come back to the "He-man Woman Haters Club" you seem to head up???? Link to post Share on other sites
redtail Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 So tell me which man has a better life right now. The husband she cheated on and divorced or Hugh Hefner? Which man would you rather be? Interesting question Woggle, sort of like asking, "Answer yes or no, have you stopped beating your wife?" Because I do not envy either of those people nor do I see those as my only choices. We can always find a reason to hate something, if that's what we tune into... Link to post Share on other sites
HsMomma Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Interesting question Woggle, sort of like asking, "Answer yes or no, have you stopped beating your wife?" Because I do not envy either of those people nor do I see those as my only choices. We can always find a reason to hate something, if that's what we tune into...[/QUOTE] Yup...and redtail, my reference to the "He-man Woman Haters Club" was a "shout out" to your avatar, by the way! Link to post Share on other sites
redtail Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Yup...and redtail, my reference to the "He-man Woman Haters Club" was a "shout out" to your avatar, by the way! Uh oh, is that good? Link to post Share on other sites
HsMomma Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Uh oh, is that good? Not good or bad - just what they used to use in the old "Our Gang" movies (Alfalfa was a member!). Link to post Share on other sites
OneTwo Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 LOL....Athena!!! I mean....do men really envy Hugh Hefner? Many men envy his lifestyle, but not necessarily he himself. I believe Woggle is simply using this as an example of why there seems to be a high instance of men who do not want to commit to a marriage. Where I see this aritcle going wrong is that they are trying to portray the men as not interested in sex. I bet if we do a survey, you will find that more men then women on this site are complaining of lack of sex. If it makes you feel better: I am fat, unattractive (except for my eyes, they are pretty awesome, Thank you God!!), struggling single mom that does not get child support, welfare or any of those other awesome government programs that are available. I attend college full-time, have no boyfriend (since giving my life to Jesus I have been celibate and will remain that way until I get married) and no prospects for a boyfriend because I have had it drilled into my head that I am not good enough for anyone. So, there you go! A LS woman that does not profess to be beautiful or popular. Have a great day! Wow, sorry to hear that. Best of luck to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I don't envy anybody but I have great respect for Hugh Hefner. He is a man that has lived life on his own terms and men like him almost never end up in the position this woman's husband did. Link to post Share on other sites
Author tami-chan Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share Posted July 9, 2009 Well, I see what you are saying, Woggle. There is something about men who live their lives in their own terms that is attractive. Especially if they do so without being vile or condescending or deceitful to others. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Well, I see what you are saying, Woggle. There is something about men who live their lives in their own terms that is attractive. Especially if they do so without being vile or condescending or deceitful to others. Hugh Hefner has never been any of those things. Link to post Share on other sites
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