Anyone else feel like men get less out of relationshisp than women?

[NoIDidn't]

Important and well compensated are not the same. Being able to shoot a basketball well is not important at all. It can pay a LOT.

 

 

You are really splitting hairs on this one. That's why its so difficult to have a serious discussion about anything with you. Are you a lawyer or a teenager? You have this uncanny ability to find a semantic loophole in everything that another says.

 

 

If I earned the same as a table waiter, I'd take a job waiting tables until I found something that paid better.

 

Me too. But that's because I actually know some waiters that make over $75K a year. Many people make the mistake of thinking that waiting tables doesn't pay well. It can and it does. You might find that you actually enjoy working part time hours and making full time money.

[GorillaTheater]

Personally, I like to think of myself as both.

[GorillaTheater]

But do you CHOOSE to act like a teenager on occasion, or are you confined to the behavior by your limited intellect?

 

Yes ...

[carhill]

LOL..... now that's less I can get more of..

[clv0116]

You are really splitting hairs on this one. That's why its so difficult to have a serious discussion about anything with you. Are you a lawyer or a teenager? You have this uncanny ability to find a semantic loophole in everything that another says.

 

It's not splitting hairs, it's a huge difference. How 'important' a job is and what it pays are only tangentially connected, there are a ton of other factors that should be considered, not the least of which are how difficult is this and how many people are willing to do it at price 'N'.

 

 

 

Me too. But that's because I actually know some waiters that make over $75K a year. Many people make the mistake of thinking that waiting tables doesn't pay well. It can and it does. You might find that you actually enjoy working part time hours and making full time money.

 

While some waiters make $75K a year, it's not typical and it's not nearly enough to make me quit what I'm doing, unless it required maybe 20 hours a month at the very most. They earn that because presumably they are the very top of their field.

[clv0116]

You have this uncanny ability to find a semantic loophole in everything that another says.

 

Don't blame me because what you said and what you meant are different. I'm not your proofreader.

[Untouchable_Fire]

This is what I am talking about. Why are male concerns dismissed?

The woman who wrote that book addressed these concerns btw.

 

What is wrong with Men in the U.S.? When did we all become a bunch of whiny bitches? Where are our values... strength... honor... integrity?

 

Were you raised by a Single Mom? Do you have any kind of father figure in your life? If so what kind?

[cn283]

But in essence this means men have more responsibilities. And protecting someone is the ULTIMATE act of love and only men do it. Or did you mean to say most people protect the people they love or did you really just mean most guys.

 

 

I meant to say that when you love someone, you want to protect them in any way possible. If a male robber were to attack us would he be better equipped to protect me? Of course, I'm half a foot shorter than he is. But if there were a situation where he needed me to risk my life for him you better believe I would.

[sally4sara]

What is wrong with Men in the U.S.? When did we all become a bunch of whiny bitches? Where are our values... strength... honor... integrity?

 

Were you raised by a Single Mom? Do you have any kind of father figure in your life? If so what kind?

 

Hey now! I'm a single mom and my 11 yr old son does not whine like the OP!

[sally4sara]

I meant to say that when you love someone, you want to protect them in any way possible. If a male robber were to attack us would he be better equipped to protect me? Of course, I'm half a foot shorter than he is. But if there were a situation where he needed me to risk my life for him you better believe I would.

 

Exactly!

 

My SO it physically larger than I am, so he is better for a hand to hand fight with another large male....

But I'm a much better shot and know how to get rid of a body like WHOA!

[cn283]

I'm just not sure what the OP wants at this point. I've actually taken the time to outline various details of my relationship (as he wanted) to prove to him "all women" are not alike (cold heartless takers that want to ruin men's lives) but now what?

[redtail]

Nothing compares to going to war.

 

And considering we have overpopulation the idea that women are more valuable is ridiculous. Considering there are already more women than men.

 

Please bear with me. Both of my parents are dead now, my mother died after my father. When he died, it hit me hard but when my mother died, I was devastated, it was unexpected and yet uncontrollable for me. A friend told me at the time something that has always stuck with me. "Nobody will ever love you, like your mother". For me, and at least most people I know, this is true, a mother's love is the purest you'll experience.

 

I wagering that most of these men that died in these wars, had mothers. If a mother can love that much, can you possibly even imagine the pain and suffering each and every one of these women felt when the news came that their son would not be returning home? I can only imagine. Each and every one of those men in those wars you're so proud of, was delivered by a woman. A woman whose suffering continued long after the suffering of their son was over.

 

We can not deminish the contribution people make to this world through the narrow perspective of our own single exisitence. Each act has consequences that can and do, change the world.

[clv0116]

I wagering that most of these men that died in these wars, had mothers.

 

Their sisters who didn't go to war also had mothers. What's the point?

[Untouchable_Fire]

I meant to say that when you love someone, you want to protect them in any way possible. If a male robber were to attack us would he be better equipped to protect me? Of course, I'm half a foot shorter than he is. But if there were a situation where he needed me to risk my life for him you better believe I would.

 

I bought this packet of ground beef at the supermarket a few days ago. I'm not sure what to do with it, but I'm so hungry. My GF is going to come over and make it into something edible. In essence she is protecting me from starvation!

 

Point... there are more ways to protect and defend someone than just physically. I make sure that I am fiercely protective of the women in my life... All of them. I don't feel as though I am being shortchanged in that deal.

[redtail]

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I don't feel as though I am being shortchanged in that deal.

 

That was well said, I agree.

[Woggle]

What is wrong with Men in the U.S.? When did we all become a bunch of whiny bitches? Where are our values... strength... honor... integrity?

 

Were you raised by a Single Mom? Do you have any kind of father figure in your life? If so what kind?

 

While I don't like his approach what is so wrong with men voicing how we feel? Should we just shut the hell up and try to appease women who will never like us no matter what we do? The one thing I don't like is him begging for mercy though. When women and self hating men throw bombs in my direction I throw some back and refuse to apologize for it.

[sally4sara]

I bought this packet of ground beef at the supermarket a few days ago. I'm not sure what to do with it, but I'm so hungry. My GF is going to come over and make it into something edible. In essence she is protecting me from starvation!

 

Point... there are more ways to protect and defend someone than just physically. I make sure that I am fiercely protective of the women in my life... All of them. I don't feel as though I am being shortchanged in that deal.

 

Ummm, HELLO hamburgers! Like, aren't guys genetically hardwired to grill things or something? :lmao:

 

You don't need no fish bicycle either mang. You can do it!

[Woggle]

It is BECAUSE of his approach - like you used to do Woggle. "All women behave this way," and "all women are that." That's BS. He knows it, you know it, and the rest of us know it, but WOMEN do NOT like to be told they're heartless, coldblooded bitches.

 

There are good females but most women in my experience truly don't care how much they hurt a man and in some cases even enjoy it. Very few women truly do love the man in their life. I know the women who don't fit this description get offended but how do you think men feel when we are told that we are all cheating dogs and overgrown babies?

[cn283]

I bought this packet of ground beef at the supermarket a few days ago. I'm not sure what to do with it, but I'm so hungry. My GF is going to come over and make it into something edible. In essence she is protecting me from starvation!

 

Point... there are more ways to protect and defend someone than just physically. I make sure that I am fiercely protective of the women in my life... All of them. I don't feel as though I am being shortchanged in that deal.

 

LOL!

 

What I don't get is the war comments. Of course more men go to war, since the dawn of time that's how the male side of the species dealt with conflict. Testosterone makes people more aggressive, men have more of it, ie. men are more aggressive.

[sally4sara]

There are good females but most women in my experience truly don't care how much they hurt a man and in some cases even enjoy it. Very few women truly do love the man in their life. I know the women who don't fit this description get offended but how do you think men feel when we are told that we are all cheating dogs and overgrown babies?

 

They were paying me to hurt them I SWEAR!

[carhill]

I know the women who don't fit this description get offended but how do you think men feel when we are told that we are all cheating dogs and overgrown babies?

 

Men accept the pain of ridicule and criticism, just like they accept the pain of rejection, with their heads high and their mouths shut and their emotions in check, like the well-trained robots they are

 

 

 

Or don't...

[Woggle]

Men accept the pain of ridicule and criticism, just like they accept the pain of rejection, with their heads high and their mouths shut and their emotions in check, like the well-trained robots they are

 

 

 

Or don't...

 

I don't accept but I like throwing bombs instead of whining about it.

[carhill]

Yeah, I'm a bit of a pyrotechnician myself. Stealth bomber

[redtail]

I don't accept but I like throwing bombs instead of whining about it.

 

I suppose this supports Cn283's war comment...

[Untouchable_Fire]

Ummm, HELLO hamburgers! Like, aren't guys genetically hardwired to grill things or something? :lmao:

You don't need no fish bicycle either mang. You can do it!

 

I've nearly killed myself twice with undercooked meats! I am not going to try and make the third time a charm!

 

I'm also unwilling to vegetarian. The last time I tried that I lost 8 pounds of muscle in 3 months. There is a reason those guys look like sticks!

 

LOL!

What I don't get is the war comments. Of course more men go to war, since the dawn of time that's how the male side of the species dealt with conflict. Testosterone makes people more aggressive, men have more of it, ie. men are more aggressive.

 

Well, for my part I don't get the foreplay and multi orgasm issue. I swear if I didn't enjoy it... I wouldn't do it. Luckily for everyone involved... foreplay is very enjoyable, as is postplay! I am also quite happy with my orgasms.

 

There are good females but most women in my experience truly don't care how much they hurt a man and in some cases even enjoy it. Very few women truly do love the man in their life. I know the women who don't fit this description get offended but how do you think men feel when we are told that we are all cheating dogs and overgrown babies?

 

Your experience with women must have sucked. Can't you tell the good ones from the bad ones? As a %, there are more good women than bad.