carhill Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 When I get a good job I will simply go the russian mailorder bride route I guess, where they rely on you to eat and are forced to "settle" Nah, unless you ex-pat, once they 'westernize', they'll leave you too Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Definitions: Loser - spews venom and anger at the opposite gender, blaming everyone and needing to control the entire gender's preferences instead of improving self or environment. Winner - goes and gets what he wants by, if necessary, improving self to the point where he's an attraction and/or learning to play to his strengths v. displaying his weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I agree that women are more shallow. Without a doubt, but theyre the ones getting penetrated, so theyre much more selective about what penetrates them I had a situation like yours once too Bolton. I had a really good friend who was (still is) 6'1 and a really handsome guy and though we had very similar personalities since we hung out all the time and influenced each others thinking, he would always attract the affection of any girl I was interested in even when he wasnt remotely interested in her Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And yes Taramere i wish most women would have my outlook, it would make dating a lot easier and we'd all be happier for it. Not saying you should be with someone you don't find physically attractive at all, but if its a person whose kind of cute and a good person, why is that so bad? I will never understand them, women that is. I guess it has to do with female empowerment and financial independence. When I get a good job I will simply go the russian mailorder bride route I guess, where they rely on you to eat and are forced to "settle" It doesn't have to be as extreme as that. My instinct is that you and your friend perhaps live in eachothers pockets a little more than is healthy...and that it would be wise for you to enlarge your social circle so that you're a little bit less focused on him and the amount of female attention he gets. I've gone out with guys who had an issue about women being more attracted to their friends than to them. I've also been that women who finds that men are more attracted to some of her friends than to her. These are situations that affect all genders....and probably most people at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BOLTON33 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Definitions: Loser - spews venom and anger at the opposite gender, blaming everyone and needing to control the entire gender's preferences instead of improving self or environment. Winner - goes and gets what he wants by, if necessary, improving self to the point where he's an attraction and/or learning to play to his strengths v. displaying his weaknesses. Oh please, are you going to start talking about "game" and all that crap. I've seen guys try that game crap, and unless they are extremely handsome women will just ignore them to talk to the tall and very handsome guy who is ignoring them . I agree that women are more shallow. Without a doubt, but theyre the ones getting penetrated, so theyre much more selective about what penetrates them I had a situation like yours once too Bolton. I had a really good friend who was (still is) 6'1 and a really handsome guy and though we had very similar personalities since we hung out all the time and influenced each others thinking, he would always attract the affection of any girl I was interested in even when he wasnt remotely interested in her [/Quote] Isn't this angering? If I went out on a date with a cute girl and she had a friend who was a supermodel, I wouldn't do that. Why are women such slaves to their emotions and feelings? It's why they can never become president. Imagine if Hillary was in power, she'd probably fall in love with Osama Bin Laden because he's 6'4 and the definition of "BAD BOY". Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Oh please, are you going to start talking about "game" and all that crap. I've seen guys try that game crap, and unless they are extremely handsome women will just ignore them to talk to the tall and very handsome guy who is ignoring them.The PUA game is hilarious and doesn't work well with anyone who has an ounce of self-esteem! No, improve yourself at core. The first order of business is to drop the angry, young man aka victim attitude and understand that you can't expect everyone and every woman, to be just like you and want you...for your anger. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Oh please, are you going to start talking about "game" and all that crap. I've seen guys try that game crap, and unless they are extremely handsome women will just ignore them to talk to the tall and very handsome guy who is ignoring them . exactly! there was a recent thread about a ridiculous group of men who went around New York trying to pick up women uner the tuteledge of a "master pick up artist" the thing was this master pick up artist was like 6'4 with a pretty boy face and wavy long locks, so he would pick up women despite doing things like putting on make up and dressing like dr seuss characters while all the other guys were trying to emulate his techniques Link to post Share on other sites
Thaddeus Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 The PUA game is hilarious and doesn't work well with anyone who has an ounce of self-esteem! We've been through that, in a thread that went, oh, 25+ pages. And I still disagree! It CAN work, even with the most self-assured women. I've seen it, I've done it (though I don't anymore). [/hijack] Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 We've been through that, in a thread that went, oh, 25+ pages. And I still disagree! It CAN work, even with the most self-assured women. I've seen it, I've done it (though I don't anymore). [/hijack]If a woman is interested, she won't care what he does, including using PUA methods. If she's not, nothing will work whereby the PUA's throw temper tantrums, stamping their little feet and then flip her off! Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And we all KNOW what they say about a guy with little feet. You're bad! Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 When I get a good job I will simply go the russian mailorder bride route I guess, where they rely on you to eat and are forced to "settle" When you prove you can get and hold a good job you'll be less of a loser as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Thaddeus Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And we all KNOW what they say about a guy with little feet. Size 11 here. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 When you prove you can get and hold a good job you'll be less of a loser as well. Hes 21 Youre the old geezer hitting on his peers and flashing around your credit cards Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hes 21 Youre the old geezer hitting on his peers and flashing around your credit cards They hit on me, I just let them. If you're gonna tell about my life tell it right. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Size 11 here. 11 here, but mine are 5E .... oh yeah, XXX wide, don't cha know. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Astute observation, that. I dont know if it makes him feel dominant to beat up on young posters, but its rather irritating Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 If a woman is interested, she won't care what he does, including using PUA methods. If she's not, nothing will work whereby the PUA's throw temper tantrums, stamping their little feet and then flip her off! Men seem to have a major thing about women preferring taller men. I can't tell you how many men I've encountered who have an issue about being smaller than 6 ft. I always thought "why the hell would it matter that a guy is smaller than 6 ft??" The thing is, though, that there does seem to be this angry little man complex that sets in with some of them. I was with a guy who was about 5 ft 8" for a long time. Had other opportunities with other men (taller men!), but as long as the relationship was working out between us and he was treating me well, I wasn't interested in any other men. He, on the other hand, cheated the moment he had an opportunity to. The fact that he had a reasonably attractive girlfriend (me) seemed to create opportunities that he wouldn't otherwise have had to have sex with other women. Female competitiveness being what it is. A lot of very average looking people have supreme depth and strength of character....until the moment when Lady Opportunity actually presents herself (for once in their lives). Then suddenly they're as shallow as anyone else. Or often more so, because the shallowness is combined with all those unresolved resentments about feeling not good enough. So it isn't just disloyalty. It's disloyalty with a vindictive, angry edge to it. So it's not lack of height or average looks that would put me off a small, average guy. It's the fear of that kind of underlying insecurity that results in some men longing for the time they can turn the tables on a woman - any woman - for the way they've always felt inside. Short men who don't have that complex....stand forward and be proud. Ladies might not be hurling themselves at you, and you may not be Brad Pitt - but provided you've made the effort to get yourself into good psychological shape your height is no bar to you having happy, fulfilling relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 So it's not lack of height or average looks that would put me off a small, average guy. It's the fear of that kind of underlying insecurity that results in some men longing for the time they can turn the tables on a woman - any woman - for the way they've always felt inside. Short men who don't have that complex....stand forward and be proud. Ladies might not be hurling themselves at you, and you may not be Brad Pitt - but provided you've made the effort to get yourself into good psychological shape your height is no bar to you having happy, fulfilling relationships.The little napoleon complex is a massive turn-off! I've yet to meet a woman who's not turned off by it. I will admit to finding tall men attractive. This doesn't mean I haven't found men under 6' attractive but only the ones with a "tall" or balanced attitude. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 In Cuba 5'8 is average Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I dont know if it makes him feel dominant to beat up on young posters, but its rather irritating I'm trying to make him understand that working behind a cash register is not the sort of thing that young women find attractive in general terms. He's a guy, I don't need to sugar coat things for him he'll get it and he'll fix it. Stop mothering him. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Men seem to have a major thing about women preferring taller men. I can't tell you how many men I've encountered who have an issue about being smaller than 6 ft. I always thought "why the hell would it matter that a guy is smaller than 6 ft??" The thing is, though, that there does seem to be this angry little man complex that sets in with some of them. I was with a guy who was about 5 ft 8" for a long time. Had other opportunities with other men (taller men!), but as long as the relationship was working out between us and he was treating me well, I wasn't interested in any other men. He, on the other hand, cheated the moment he had an opportunity to. The fact that he had a reasonably attractive girlfriend (me) seemed to create opportunities that he wouldn't otherwise have had to have sex with other women. Female competitiveness being what it is. A lot of very average looking people have supreme depth and strength of character....until the moment when Lady Opportunity actually presents herself (for once in their lives). Then suddenly they're as shallow as anyone else. Or often more so, because the shallowness is combined with all those unresolved resentments about feeling not good enough. So it isn't just disloyalty. It's disloyalty with a vindictive, angry edge to it. So it's not lack of height or average looks that would put me off a small, average guy. It's the fear of that kind of underlying insecurity that results in some men longing for the time they can turn the tables on a woman - any woman - for the way they've always felt inside. Short men who don't have that complex....stand forward and be proud. Ladies might not be hurling themselves at you, and you may not be Brad Pitt - but provided you've made the effort to get yourself into good psychological shape your height is no bar to you having happy, fulfilling relationships. Thats pretty insightful as usual. I think I see something of myself and many men I know in your ex bf So do you think that makes handsome men potentially better human beings? Perhaps.. Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Do you think that's for the same reason he wants a younger woman? The control factor? Mostly because young women are hotter honestly, but the fact that they tend to be less bitter about life is a plus as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 To use a female analogy of something similar, some women moan and bitch about their breast size being what stops men from being attracted. That's bunk, just like it's bunk that men under 6' aren't attractive to women. Once again, this falls into the "no one is universally attractive". So, shuck the crap, improve at core/environment if need be and play to your strengths. It's a numbers game for everyone. Sooner or later, you're going find a match. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I'm trying to make him understand that working behind a cash register is not the sort of thing that young women find attractive in general terms. He's a guy, I don't need to sugar coat things for him he'll get it and he'll fix it. Stop mothering him. For all we know he could be putting himself through pharmacological school and will own the pharmacy someday. He hasn't shared his goals, rather mostly his frustrations. Turn that anger into a positive force Link to post Share on other sites
clv0116 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 For all we know he could be putting himself through pharmacological school and will own the pharmacy someday. He hasn't shared his goals, rather mostly his frustrations. Turn that anger into a positive force A solid plan and I endorse it. Link to post Share on other sites
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