herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 You seem to be very easily insulted.... and besides, you started in on me first. Don't be trying to turn this around. Hey, I have no problem with anything you say. Go right ahead and say what you want, this is a public forum. Please read my first post to you. All I have said is that I don't understand why you care so much about the BS. He really made it easy on you. IMO, you should be grateful. You can now move on with the woman of your dreams. Why can't you just be happy with that and let the BS handle things the best he can? Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 kill??? Oh you only go that far when you know the law allows for that possibility. I personally know how much force you can apply in a given situation and under what circumstances and not get in trouble. The martial arts guys you see running their mouths are those that don't know anything. The really dangerous ones are the ones that don't say anything. The dangerous ones are the ones that react in a cold efficient manor. If Owl has faith in his martial arts that is confidence in what he knows. spiraling downward I will say it does sound like you wanted the fight, what so you can show how much of a man you are? I know you have said a few times you did not want a fight but the way you are posting here that is not the impression i get. Well, I'm very experienced at talking smack on anonymous message boards... but I'm actually a person that the late Ghandi would have loved! Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'm completely dumbfounded.... ...I agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Never said that. I'm not sure where you are getting that. I think I've maintained all along that I didn't know what to expect from him... I was suprised by his complete lack of action. But here's the thing...you didn't post this thread showing "surprise". You showed disdain/disgust when he didn't attack you, or otherwise pick a fight with you. Instead, you took it that he wasn't "man enough" or something. That's not surprise. it seems to me if he really wanted to fight for his marriage, he would have made more of a scene with me? So what you're telling me then is that he believes in self preservation and doesn't really care about his wife at all... in other words, he's all about himself. That's kind of what I was thinking. Thanks. When I was in his shoes, the folks around me had to pull me off the OM... yes, that happened (a sordid tale at best.) So you see, I was suprised by his non-action. He was all talk. One more thing... if his main concern was his wife... he would have drug her out of there. You're giving this man too much credit. That would also be the fighting spirit on your part. I saw nothing of that from him. Trust me, I wasn't looking for a fight.... but he didn't say stay away from his wife, get lost loser or nothing.... that's my point, what am I to think? With my MW's husband, I didn't see any of this... nada. His only goal was to try to control the situation as he always had... by controlling his wife. And you seem to show disdain and disgust for anyone who's been in BH's shoes apparently: Don't you wish this was true. I'm just interested in what makes people tick. Otherwise I wouldn't be on this forum gathering opinions. There's a lot of talk... but talk is cheap. There are winners and losers in every situation. I feel like I'm winning because I'm getting the woman of my dreams. The losers spend their time whining and moralizing about their misfortunes. That's really the bottom line. exhibit A. another whining loser. What are you doing on the OM/OW board anyway? Some of you whining BS need to be kicked. Again, I'm at a loss as to what ANYONE could have done "right" when they confront or don't confront the OM/OW? I've always suggested against meeting with the OM/OW to most BS's I've talked to. It's rarely beneficial to anyone...BS or OW/OM. Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 ...I agree. Now you're taking me out of context!! You're a piece of work. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 kill??? The martial arts guys you see running their mouths are those that don't know anything. The really dangerous ones are the ones that don't say anything. The dangerous ones are the ones that react in a cold efficient manor. Yup. Guys who take martial arts seriously are usually calm and collected in a dangerous situation. They are the ones who try to make peace without violence. Using martial arts to solve a conflict is the last resort. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Now you're taking me out of context!! You're a piece of work. Yes, again we agree. I am indeed a piece of work. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Time and time again on this forum we are told that the BS shouldn't blame the OW or the OM. We are told that we should blame our spouse. So now you have a guy who doesn't want to deal with you, the OM, and in some warped way, he didn't do the right thing. Makes no sense at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 And you seem to show disdain and disgust for anyone who's been in BH's shoes apparently: I'll give you this one. That's why I started this thread... I just got a little tired of reading some of the saintly BS stories.... It's always takes both parties to contribute to the building up or downfall of a marriage. I just chose to bring the discussion here rather than upset people in the infidelity forum. You see, I'm really a nice guy. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 HN, you CRACK me up girl!!! That's what I'm here for donna. Link to post Share on other sites
hopesndreams Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Well if that's what I wanted, I could have just smacked him up beside the head with the pool cue I was holding.... Oooh, so now in this story of yours you had a weapon. A pool cue. Just in case. Good thinking! lol Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 HN, you CRACK me up girl!!! Ok, now we've got the "you go girl thing going on..." I'm happy I could make your day! Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Well if that's what I wanted, I could have just smacked him up beside the head with the pool cue I was holding.... Oooh, so now in this story of yours you had a weapon. A pool cue. Just in case. Good thinking! lol Well, he interupted our game.... what was I to do? You are funny people. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'll give you this one. That's why I started this thread... I just got a little tired of reading some of the saintly BS stories.... It's always takes both parties to contribute to the building up or downfall of a marriage. I just chose to bring the discussion here rather than upset people in the infidelity forum. You see, I'm really a nice guy. I think everyone agrees that it takes both parties to maintain a healthy relationship with anyone. I didn't realize that this thread was about that. OK, now that you have told us, I'm sure we can all agree. It does always take both parties to contribute to the building up or downfall of a marriage. I guess your GF husband prefers that you just take her. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Well, he interupted our game.... what was I to do? You are funny people. Exactly what it sounds like you did. Continue with what you were doing after he left. I still don't see the problem here. Link to post Share on other sites
hopesndreams Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Yes, this story is quite amusing. First you were just in the tavern and I just assumed you both were sat down having a drink..didn't realize you were both in the middle of a pool game. That changes everything! Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 I think everyone agrees that it takes both parties to maintain a healthy relationship with anyone. I didn't realize that this thread was about that. OK, now that you have told us, I'm sure we can all agree. It does always take both parties to contribute to the building up or downfall of a marriage. I guess your GF husband prefers that you just take her. Ok, we are in agreement. Can we be nice to each other now? Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Yes, this story is quite amusing. First you were just in the tavern and I just assumed you both were sat down having a drink..didn't realize you were both in the middle of a pool game. That changes everything! It kind of sounds like an episode of "My Name is Earl". Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok, we are in agreement. Can we be nice to each other now? OK, but don't expect me to fight for our friendship if you decide to be nice to another BW. I just won't care enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'll give you this one. That's why I started this thread... I just got a little tired of reading some of the saintly BS stories.... It's always takes both parties to contribute to the building up or downfall of a marriage. I just chose to bring the discussion here rather than upset people in the infidelity forum. You see, I'm really a nice guy. BOTH parties have to be committed to making a relationship work, or it fails. That means that it only takes one party to cause it to fail. Simple, easy logic. Now, it's not always the case that it is just one. But it most certainly can be. I would agree that it USUALLY IS a result of both parties contributing to the build up or break down of a marriage, but in reality it only takes ONE selfish person to destroy a relationship. And which the situation is in any case is something that can't always be told from outside the marriage/relationship. Sometimes it can't even be told from inside the relationship because things get so distorted and out of whack. Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 OK, but don't expect me to fight for our friendship if you decide to be nice to another BW. I just won't care enough. Fair enough... I'll be true to you. ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 BOTH parties have to be committed to making a relationship work, or it fails. That means that it only takes one party to cause it to fail. Simple, easy logic. Now, it's not always the case that it is just one. But it most certainly can be. I would agree that it USUALLY IS a result of both parties contributing to the build up or break down of a marriage, but in reality it only takes ONE selfish person to destroy a relationship. And which the situation is in any case is something that can't always be told from outside the marriage/relationship. Sometimes it can't even be told from inside the relationship because things get so distorted and out of whack. Seems to me we went down this road before in another thread... Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Well, if you posted this thread as a retort to something that was discussed on another thread...it's hardly surprising that we're here again, no? Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Fair enough... I'll be true to you. ;-) You better be because I am one bitter BW. Don't mess with the power I have to make you do things against your will. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Well, if you posted this thread as a retort to something that was discussed on another thread...it's hardly surprising that we're here again, no? It's what they always say about the wheels on the bus...they go round and round. Link to post Share on other sites
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