Now.. my letter to the wives...

[Lizzie60]

Poor delusional woman....if I posted my photo you would cry. That is a FACT.

 

 

Anyone can say that.. I dare you..

and for the poster who said (could be you).. that I never posted my face.. sorry but I did.. many times..

[boldjack]

I wasn't going to, but here goes. I'm really not interested in the atitudes of the BS's here on LS. I am interested in you. Lizzie, the person. Not so much, Lizzie the poster.

[Impudent Oyster]

Anyone can say that.. I dare you..

and for the poster who said (could be you).. that I never posted my face.. sorry but I did.. many times..

 

No Lizzie, I don't need that kind of validation.

 

I won't post my photo but suffice it to say that I was a print model and am aware that I'm attractive without needing to post a photo here to prove anything.

 

It's pathetic that a 57 year old woman would to tell people that they're jealous of her...for all you know I could be Christie Brinkley.

[Lizzie60]

No Lizzie, I don't need that kind of validation.

 

I won't post my photo but suffice it to say that I was a print model and am aware that I'm attractive without needing to post a photo here to prove anything.

 

It's pathetic that a 57 year old woman would to tell people that they're jealous of her...for all you know I could be Christie Brinkley.

 

 

Of course.. I can say that too.. anyone can say they used to model.. blablabla.. but they won't prove it.. cause they don't need the validation.. sure..

[Gamine]

I would agree that Lizzie's....mindset...isn't that of a "standard OW".

 

Not at all.

 

But Lizzie forgot to mention that the majority of her....MM (clients?) provide her with...."gifts"...as part of their arrangement.

 

Lizzie is not an OW.

 

Lizzie is (as I've said before) a "paid professional".

 

This isn't a "relationship" with her MM.

 

It's a business arrangement...an exchange of "gifts" for "services".

 

The only real unusual thing here is that Lizzie seems to be proud of and thoroughly enjoy her business arrangements...I'd gotten the impression that most "working girls" don't normally do so.

 

 

I also wonder why, if she is so comfortable with her 'lifestyle' as a lady of the evening, does she keep her MM in the dark? Why the grand manipulation? Why duping him? Therein lies the dysfunction. Someone who lives in compartmentalization. She has a job. She is a mom. She is an employee. She is an OW.

 

Then, a courtesan, for hire on the side.

 

Prostitutes do have SO's, or so I've heard. Yet, on one hand there is the laissez faire attitude of ... I like sex and I'm a freebird. To I am a jealous OW in a genuine A... who, by the way, I have to lie to so that I can deceive him into giving a crap about me. I sure hope for her sake that she isn't exposed. People do crazy things when they've been manipulated and Lizzie may be looking down the barrel of something one day if she isn't careful. And as for her letter... well.... let's put it this way. If she wrote it to the wife and invested that much into it she should have the brass ones to send it. And let this woman deal with her as she sees fit. But again, I trust Lizzie, in all of her experience dealing with 'human nature' can assess the risk. Her free ride MM might turn around and despise her (not to mention finding out she is really a hooker) and his wife... well, Lizzie might have to move and change her name.

[Gamine]

No Lizzie, I don't need that kind of validation.

 

I won't post my photo but suffice it to say that I was a print model and am aware that I'm attractive without needing to post a photo here to prove anything.

 

It's pathetic that a 57 year old woman would to tell people that they're jealous of her...for all you know I could be Christie Brinkley.

 

 

IO, so glad you are here to inject a balance of wisdom to this insanity. I feel the same way. While I am chopped liver compared to Christie Brinkley, I too was a model and at 48 am a proud peacock. But to be a proud peacock one has to groom their feathers and remain clean.

 

I certainly don't know where a 57 year old prostitute winds up. I hope for Lizzie's sake she gets professional help with her sexual problems and finds true happiness... and returns that happiness... instead of living in the periphery of life.

[Impudent Oyster]

You know it's funny, I used to see this old woman at the grocery store with an slightly younger man in tow.

 

She would wear tight halter tops or stratch camis over her large, pendulous, wrinkled breasts and had long dyed black hair, tons of eyeliner and mascara and deep red lipstick. She would totter along in 5 inch heels and hot pants, and always bent over the meat case displaying her wrinkled, sagging thighs.

 

Everyone else would look at her (how could you not, she was a caricature) and smirk or giggle, but you could tell she thought she was the hottest thing going...she had to be about 80.

 

She was a joke, only she was the only one who didn't get it.

 

She reminds me of someone.

[Impudent Oyster]

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I certainly don't know where a 57 year old prostitute winds up..

 

See my last post...

[Reggie]

I wasn't going to, but here goes. I'm really not interested in the atitudes of the BS's here on LS. I am interested in you. Lizzie, the person. Not so much, Lizzie the poster.

 

Well, what about me, Dr Phil?

[Lizzie60]

Yes I guess you can call it 'compartmentalization'. I have a job that I love. I am a great mother and grandmother. I am a great 'best' friend (have 2 bestest friends for over 50 years).. I also have many friends (mostly males). I am an OW. I am a very good massage 'therapist'.. and have a very well paid job on the side.. (let's call it that)

 

 

Prostitutes do have SO's, or so I've heard.

 

Yes,... I've read that it's getting more and more common that surburban wives do it as a well paid passtime...

 

OR

 

Do it with friends (fwb) but the benefits are 'gifts'.. the reason.. being.. if you want to sc*w me.. you'll pay for it.. (that's how it started for me)

 

 

well, Lizzie might have to move and change her name.

 

Well. this is dramatization at its best.. The MMs I am seeing are 'normal' good men.. and I'm sure from what I know of them.. they have 'normal' good wives at home.. I have no fear.

[Reggie]

Well, one's physical apearance seems to be irrelevant. Last time I was body doubling for Brad Pitt, I was still thinking that integrity and honesty are best.

[Reggie]

Jealousy will take you nowhere..

Actually, it will take you somewhere. It is just not a pleasant place.

I think you mean envy, though. Jealousy is something different.

[Lizzie60]

Actually, it will take you somewhere. It is just not a pleasant place.

I think you mean envy, though. Jealousy is something different.

 

 

Envy.. jealousy.. you get the point.. Brad..

[Holding-On]

You know it's funny, I used to see this old woman at the grocery store with an slightly younger man in tow.

 

She would wear tight halter tops or stratch camis over her large, pendulous, wrinkled breasts and had long dyed black hair, tons of eyeliner and mascara and deep red lipstick. She would totter along in 5 inch heels and hot pants, and always bent over the meat case displaying her wrinkled, sagging thighs.

 

Everyone else would look at her (how could you not, she was a caricature) and smirk or giggle, but you could tell she thought she was the hottest thing going...she had to be about 80.

 

She was a joke, only she was the only one who didn't get it.

 

She reminds me of someone.

 

Ah... but if she thought she was hot and her younger man thought she was hot, what did it matter? Would it have been oh so much better if she were chastised and came to properly realized she were ugly old and used up and projected the necessary misery so that all around her were pleased she chose her due place in society? At the least she gave you all something to laugh at and be smug about.

 

And for heavens sake, the poster calling herself Lizzie is claiming to be 57 not 80. Even without dressing up as a "lady of the night" my mother was getting hit on at 60! I was standing right next to her and saw this with my own eyes.

 

Sadly my mother did not marry my father for his looks so I doubt I'll have the same experience at 57.

[Owl]

Do it with friends (fwb) but the benefits are 'gifts'.. the reason.. being.. if you want to sc*w me.. you'll pay for it.. (that's how it started for me)

 

Prostitute.

 

That simple.

 

Not "other woman". "Paid prostitute", who is being sc*wed by men who pay her to do so.

 

Who then tries to boost her ego by posting on forums like LS scorning the wives for being married to men like this.

 

There is no "relationship"...therefore little real relevency to the normal OW situation or mindset.

[Silver Wolf]

I"ve seen a few threads on BSs that wrote messages or letters to the OWs..

 

Here's mine.. I might have to use it one day.

 

Any other OWs who actually wrote a letter to the MM's wife?

 

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Dear Wives,

 

Don’t take offense. Calling you ‘wife’ doesn’t imply anything derogatory. It’s just that you are one of many.. many wives. I don’t know your name, I have to address you in the manner in which you presented yourself to me: His Wife.

 

So ... you say everything in you is crying out to hate me, but you chose love and you chose to forgive. Good on you because either way, I don’t care.

 

This isn’t intended to be disparaging. I’m just telling it like it is. You see, to me you don’t exist. I know he has a wife somewhere, but when they met, how she cooks her food, how old she is, whether she has a job and if she’s beautiful or not.. don’t matter to me. I’m not a mistress because of you. I’m a mistress in spite of you.

 

Did I know your husband was married before I started dating him? Yes. Did it matter? No.

 

It didn’t matter because in this world of haves and have-nots, I am determined to get my own. My own fawning man, my warm bed to return to, my roll in the hay. The man, my man, is not the same as your husband. He is who is he is: my lover.

 

For some reason you think I intentionally worm my way into your marriage and steal your man. It’s as if your husband is helpless, weak and confused, falling for anyone who bats their eyes at him. Nothing could be further from the truth. The men I chose are strong men. They know they are married, but they chose to take me on as a mistress and I in turn chose to accept them. It’s not a decision made in the heat of passion or a result of poor judgment after an alcohol fueled night. We don't drink... I determine when to walk in and I always determine when to walk out.

 

Contrary to popular belief, I am not his sex toy either. Unlike you, my relationship with him is not bound by the 'rules' of marriage. If I deny him sex, he can always get it from you because it’s your duty to the marital bed. When I’m sick of him, I can cut off communication or walk out of the affair because there is no legal whatnot involved.

 

For me marriage isn’t the beginning of a new life; it’s the end. I've never been married.. never will.. I just can't understand why people choose to marry... only to find out a few years later that being with one partner for the rest of our lives is like doing time..

 

I’m an intelligent woman and I know what I want. I chose my independence – my full independence.

 

You ask why I chose married men when the country is full of single men. The answer is pretty simple: it’s easier with married men. I don’t have to do any work. It's sooo much easier. The burden of care doesn’t lie solely with me because you are there to handle his daily activities and he comes to me to add some richness to his life.

 

It isn’t that you are not ‘enough’ for him; it’s just that I add a little spice to his life. Consider it similar to eating boiled meat. It will fill you and nourish you, but every once in a while you want a little spice to add a zest to your meal. That zest is me. You shouldn’t be so angry about the way things turned out because when you think of it, I made your marriage better for you sometimes.

 

When you confronted me, you attempted to shame me into remorse. Sorry, but it didn’t work. There is no room for shame for a toughened, long time mistress like me.

 

Just in case you are angry, don’t be angry at me .. be angry at him. It was he who lied to you... he who broke his promises... he who betrayed you. If you can get past me and focus on him, maybe he will change.. maybe the two of you can rebuild your marriage... but I very much doubt it.

 

You may be his wife and I am sure in his own way he loves you. He has said you are a good wife, a good mother.. He appreciates that.. but it is not enough for him. You see, I'm the one he needs. I'm what he craves and can't live without. I am the thing he is most passionate about. He longs to put his hands on my body and press his lips against me. He burns his tongue on my skin. My taste is intoxicating and I make him feel like a man. Being with me turns him into someone he normally isn't... a sex 'beast'. Being with me makes him lose control. With me he has no inhibitions and he'll say exactly what is on his mind. I'm always there for him..... no expectations .. no complaints....

 

I'm am there for his pleasure only. I got under his skin...like an I.V. of 'passion fluid'.. When he lies down beside you in your bed each night he's still under my control. He's still with me in his mind.. He dreams about me cause he falls asleep thinking about me. He's obsessed with me..

 

How could you not know about us? Every time he has been with me he comes home a different person. Can't you smell me on him? After he has been with me he's tired and disoriented. I've numbed his senses to the point he doesn't even know you exist. He has to take a nap after we've been together because I've drained him of his energy and when he awakes he's ready for me all over again. I hear that you have been blaming me for all of your problems with him....well don't .. he's the one to blame; not me. He comes to me, I don't go to him. He chose me.

 

You're his wife but he wants me more.. He'd rather be with me than spend time with you. Don't you think it is a little strange that he takes hours to run simple errands that should take minutes---he is with me.. When he comes home late after work...when he plays golf.. yep.. golf... or fishing.. or.. wherever.. he's with me.

 

I have taken your place in his heart. Your feelings aren't important to him anymore.....don't try to discuss them with him because it only stresses him out and he runs to me.. Unless you want him to spend more time with me stop nagging him about the kids, the house, the bills, family matters, etc. and, most of all, stop talking to him about how unhappy you are.. Deep inside, he doesn't really care..

 

Work on yourself instead, you know you need to.. He is not going to change... ever again... now that he has tasted that level of excitement.

 

I hope this puts a better perspective on things and you finally know where you stand. You see, you may be his wife and that used to be sacred but I am in the picture now....I am his mistress... I am his life.

 

Save yourself many miserable years... if you can't accept that he will never be faithful.. move on...

 

Touroulou

The Mistress

 

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____ You know I am a married woman and I have to agree with you 100%. It's not you the wife should be mad at it's him. Your doing your thing and what you chose out of life..and that's fine..it's up to him to take the bait or not. Some men cheat, some don't. When they sleep with you, all they are doing is maybe trying something new..not that they want you in their life forever, but just a quick knock of the boots and they go home to the woman they love most men who do cheat feel bad and disgusted and go back to their wives...should read the stats on that. Some men might chase you and peruse your for more of a serious thing, but that's not you. I am a very beautiful, successful woman, very confident with a very handsome man for a husband...my husband has turned down more beautiful women then myself because of what we have together...I provide all he needs, even the spice, that not even a woman like you could provide. Don't get mad at that statement though, there are better women then yourself out there and just like most women have to face the fact that their husbands may have eyes for you, once something more beautiful comes along, your forgotten and you will age, and you will sag and fade ..just like the wives. It's awesome that you know what you want from the start so that no games are played. You say what you want and that’s it. If some dumb man wants to risk losing his marriage for a one nighter, then that’s his problem..hope his wife takes him for everything he's got. You walk away feeling fulfilled and she walks away with his money and he is left high and dry. But maybe you don't want a relationship because your insecure in feeling you can't keep a man around that maybe what you do to other women, he may go and do it to you? Maybe you have daddy issues? not sure...but at least you know what you want. I would much rather see your pretty face that you boast about rather then a "rack" that any woman can go and buy. I don't see much of a personality in what you write but more so vindictiveness and a hatred to the "wives" maybe? maybe not..just the vibe I’m getting from you. Maybe there is a small part of you that longs for stability and intimacy that can only happen between a man and a wife, having someone know you and finish your sentence is truly amazing and a great feeling..maybe you will be lucky enough to have that some day. You will get angry posts about this i'm sure, but don't worry about it...you have to face yourself in the mirror every morning, no one else. However sweet heart I do say this, and from experience, I am sure I am older then you are....it take more then a quick and easy piece of ass to get to a mans heart, it takes more then a huge set of knockers, and your face, well you don't show your face your too scared too...but it takes heart, soul, intelligence ( which you will gain more as you get older...your not quite at the intelligent level yet) and a personality which you will develop with humbleness. I wish you the best sweet heart I do and I pray you never get hurt. I just hope you can be just as vivacious and spunky when you’re old, decrepit, and sagging and hope you can get the men even then. My best of luck. What rises, shall fall...your day is coming when you too, shall fall and may what you do unto others, be done to you three fold, that’s my curse to you. Don't hate me though for telling it like it is. If you can dish it out, you better be willing to take it, another hard lesson you will have to learn sweet heart.

 

-kindest regards, and happily married and successful

Silver Wolf.

[Impudent Oyster]

Ah... but if she thought she was hot and her younger man thought she was hot, what did it matter? Would it have been oh so much better if she were chastised and came to properly realized she were ugly old and used up and projected the necessary misery so that all around her were pleased she chose her due place in society? At the least she gave you all something to laugh at and be smug about.

 

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Who said it matters? I was just sharing an anecdote...and yes, she certainly did give me someting to laugh at. Grocery shopping used to be more fun.

[Holding-On]

Who said it matters? I was just sharing an anecdote...and yes, she certainly did give me someting to laugh at. Grocery shopping used to be more fun.

 

Exactly. There you go. I think Lizzie makes Loveshack more fun.

[marlena]

,

having someone know you and finish your sentence is truly amazing and a great feeling..

 

I would not want anyone to finish my sentence or I finish his. I find this type of parroting that I often see in couples annoying. What I have noticed is that this happens when the two are not very bright to begin with.

[Art_Critic]

I would not want anyone to finish my sentence or I finish his. I find this type of parroting that I often see in couples annoying. What I have noticed is that this happens when the two are not very bright to begin with and they over compensate by trying to finish each others sentences.

 

 

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[Kasan]

,

 

i would not want anyone to finish my sentence or i finish his. I find this type of parroting that i often see in couples annoying. What i have noticed is that this happens when the two are not very bright to begin with.

 

.................:d:d:d

[complicatedlife]

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I would not want anyone to finish my sentence or I finish his. I find this type of parroting that I often see in couples annoying. What I have noticed is that this happens when the two are not very bright to begin with.

Did I ever tell you that I find the way you think to be pretty awesome? I both love and agree with this statement and have often wondered, "Why do some couples strive for this - what is the benefit of it?"

[GorillaTheater]

,

 

I would not want anyone to finish my sentence or I finish his. I find this type of parroting that I often see in couples annoying. What I have noticed is that this happens when the two are not very bright to begin with.

 

I couldn't do this even if I wanted to; I rarely know what the hell she's thinking. And vice-versa, no doubt.

 

Great thread, btw. Another great leap foward in BS-OW relations.

[complicatedlife]

I've never understood, nor agreed with the idea that a choice people make about how they live their life automatically describes their inner being.

I don't understand it, either - especially here on LS- people are always trying to psychoanalyze people as opposed to just stating their opinion(s). Non-qualified individuals trying to diagnose people and/or put them in a box yet they've never even met said person!

[marlena]

.................:d:d:d

 

dah,dah, dah!!!! :laugh: