Lishy Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Oh LB you have been given a blessing in disguise! They sound horrible and they are devious liars by letting you think your job was safe! Buggers! Thank god you dont have to work with them anymore! They wanted you out and nothing you would have done would have helped you stay there Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Oh LB you have been given a blessing in disguise! They sound horrible and they are devious liars by letting you think your job was safe! Buggers! Thank god you dont have to work with them anymore! They wanted you out and nothing you would have done would have helped you stay there Yeah, my fiance keeps saying the same thing, that at least I don't have to work with them anymore. One of my friends there told me she got some of my clients and they were so upset and shocked that I left..that just goes to show what a great counselor I was. At least they are too scared to say anything horrible about me to employers though! That's what I was worried about... Link to post Share on other sites
Odyssey Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 LB, that's an awful way to treat you. Almost bullied you, so you would quit your job. They really didn't like you, which is no grounds to sack you. Didn't you even get a letter of termination of employment?!? They just said leave and you left? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 LB, that's an awful way to treat you. Almost bullied you, so you would quit your job. They really didn't like you, which is no grounds to sack you. Didn't you even get a letter of termination of employment?!? They just said leave and you left? No they gave me one. My supervisor just handed it to me and watched while I read it to myself! I was obviously upset and my hands were shaking. All he did was ask for my key and told me I had to leave. It was horrible. Oh, and they waited until AFTER I had seen all my clients for the day to fire me and got all my required hours in for the month with my clients..I guess they thought they could get as much work out of me as they could before they sent me packing. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Okay here is the story just to make it clear: I worked at my job for like a year and 4 months or something like that. My 6 month evaluation was awesome, glowing. I accidentally put a computer virus on my computer a short time after my evaluation and my work flipped out. They said I abused my computer priviledges (I didn't though, because they never specified what we could or couldn't look at). Plus, who knows it could have been a work site I went to that did it. Their anti-virus software is crap and they are too cheap to buy good stuff. I bet you GOOD MONEY they were tracking your internet usage on LS. True, they don't necessarily know who you are, but you posted a LOT during working hours. The rest of their complaints, in all honesty, seem well founded for someone in your position. But you did learn from them...and improved. But your internet usage didn't... Edited October 14, 2009 by Star Gazer Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 A high staff turnover rate isn't a good sign that all is harmonious in the working environment. I would be interested to hear their version of events (for balance LB, not because I don't believe you). Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetcheripie Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I don't think too many Counseling Departments would have a huge issue with a new employee posting on an interpersonal relationship center. A law firm - yes. An agency that deals with interpersonal relationships and a young employee finding a release in between clients - no. She stated the trouble started when she downloaded a virus and where she worked they were not that tech savvy. It is a good thing you are away from that place LB. It was not supportive or fundementally sound. Your supervisors must have had at least an Masters or PhD in Psychology and not being able to address the situation clearly is shocking. If the therapists can't deal with confrontation how are they suppose to help their clients? You will find a new place that will help you grow and learn. Your field can be very draining and hopefully you will find a place that has lots of support through more education, support meetings and classes for staff, and ways to deal with transference etc. Don't dwell on the past or nitpicky people LB - you will do great! Just be positive, ask lots and lots of questions and you will find the right fit for you. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Re: the internet posting- she did talk about her work quite a bit here. I can't remember anything specific but there was some negative stuff on here about her supervisor, I think she definitely called him an A-hole on here. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I don't think too many Counseling Departments would have a huge issue with a new employee posting on an interpersonal relationship center. A law firm - yes. An agency that deals with interpersonal relationships and a young employee finding a release in between clients - no. As an employment attorney, I couldn't disagree with you more... I've seen it about ten times in the past year alone... and not in law firms or other like environments. She stated the trouble started when she downloaded a virus and where she worked they were not that tech savvy. It doesn't take much tech savvy for a contracted IT person to be able to track each user's internet usage. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Re: the internet posting- she did talk about her work quite a bit here. I can't remember anything specific but there was some negative stuff on here about her supervisor, I think she definitely called him an A-hole on here. That too. All I'm saying is if you really don't know the reason, this very well may be the reason. As Allina said, bosses don't just fire you because they hate you for no reason. There is ALWAYS a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I bet you GOOD MONEY they were tracking your internet usage on LS. Honestly LB.. there is a good chance of that.. and you did post a negative thread about your supervisors on LS.. They would also be able to monitor who you are.. some computers even provide screen shots and most firewalls provide all the logging of pages visited etc etc... Until someone posted about your thread I hadn't thought of that.. Yeah...that is it... Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I never ever go onto forums on my work computer. I would just prefer to keep some of my life private! (I don't actually think my work would mind so much, but still.) Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Until someone posted about your thread I hadn't thought of that.. Actually more than one thread.. in one the title said " Has anyone ever hated their boss/supervisor? " another titled " my job is terrible ". I don't want you to think I'm piling on you.. I'm not.. I was just posting this because it does ring a bell and seems to make sense... I do think this is what happened LB.... Sorry... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yeah, that's pretty much why I didn't post about what happened on here. I figured everyone would blame me/LS for what happened. They actually DIDN'T track our internet usage. It's a small agency, there is only one IT guy. They told us all they didn't care what we looked at, some people even had AIM and yahoo messenger on their work computers. Some of my coworkers watched movies. All they told us not to do was look at anything inappropriate (like porn). They have had the internet for about 20 years at that company and employees have been looking at whatever they want on the computer. And besides, despite going on LS I ALWAYS got all my work done. If they found out I went on LS and they saw what I posted you bet your azz I would heard about it from them and they would have told me exactly what they found. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hey LB- calm down, its just a possible suggestion as to why you may have been fired. We weren't there. You should be able to accept SOME responsibility for the event, its important you do so you can move on. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hey LB- calm down, its just a possible suggestion as to why you may have been fired. We weren't there. You should be able to accept SOME responsibility for the event, its important you do so you can move on. It was an accident. I didn't deliberately go to a website that had a virus to screw them over. I accept responsibilty because I was the one who did it and I feel bad, but like I said I didn't do it on purpose. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 You should be able to accept SOME responsibility for the event, its important you do so you can move on. Why can't you do this, LB? Why is it ALWAYS someone else's fault??? Yeah, that's pretty much why I didn't post about what happened on here. I figured everyone would blame me/LS for what happened. Really? Why? Is that because you think that might be true? But to be clear, an internet site isn't at fault. The user is. They actually DIDN'T track our internet usage. It's a small agency, there is only one IT guy. They told us all they didn't care what we looked at, some people even had AIM and yahoo messenger on their work computers. Some of my coworkers watched movies. All they told us not to do was look at anything inappropriate (like porn). They have had the internet for about 20 years at that company and employees have been looking at whatever they want on the computer. This is the MOST naive mistake employees make. If a small agency even HAS an IT person, even an outside contracted IT person, you can bet your last dime that they track your internet usage. It's very foolish to think otherwise. If an employer sees you spending all your time on Facebook or CBS Sports or YouTube or Macy's.com (you know, the stuff everyone on the planet does), they're not going to care. But when they see activity on forums, do you honestly think that they wouldn't be curious enough to look at what you're doing? And besides, despite going on LS I ALWAYS got all my work done. If they found out I went on LS and they saw what I posted you bet your azz I would heard about it from them and they would have told me exactly what they found. OR, they would have just let you go. If I found something on the internet where one of my employees was saying the things about me that you were saying about your boss and work environment, particularly if I saw them not accepting any responsibility for problems I felt were very serious, I wouldn't bother explaining to them why they were terminated. They'd just be gone. And I'm not harping on you either, LB. But honestly, you need to accept some responsibility here. They didn't fire you for no reason. The sooner you accept that, and own up to it, the sooner you can LEARN from it, and grow and become the employee that every employer wants. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It was an accident. I didn't deliberately go to a website that had a virus to screw them over. I accept responsibilty because I was the one who did it and I feel bad, but like I said I didn't do it on purpose. Argh! It's not responsibility for the virus, it's responsibility for getting fired. Don't you see that? And another point - if/when someone DOES get a virus, IT people most often check the websites viewed to the time of the virus infection, so the IT dude most certainly saw a whole ton of http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 URLs. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Argh! It's not responsibility for the virus, it's responsibility for getting fired. Don't you see that? And another point - if/when someone DOES get a virus, IT people most often check the websites viewed to the time of the virus infection, so the IT dude most certainly saw a whole ton of www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 URLs. Yeah, he came to my office and tried to get rid of the viruses off of my computer. He saw my history and didn't mention anything or care about any of the sites I went to. He actually stood up for me when my bosses freaked out and told them it was an accident. I shouldn't have been posting about my job on my work computer, that was probably stupid. The last time I even posted about loveshack on my work computer was after the virus happened. They didn't fire me at that time and waited almost a year to do so. It doesn't matter if nobody believes me, I know the truth. I won't post my personal business on work computers in the future though. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Its not that I don't believe you LB, but I do find the stance you are taking on this matter a little concerning. You don't know 100% for sure that your internet usage wasn't a contributing factor to the loss of your job- you will never know. Sometimes its several small issues that mount up. Regardless of what they WERE, its plain to most of us on this thread that you seem very very reluctant to admit any responsibility at ALL for the loss of your job, which is the worrying thing as it may hinder your progress in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
MindoverMatter Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 They didn't fire you because of the virus, but they might have made it guy check on your history now and then, after it. What truth do you know? You don't know why they fired you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lauriebell82 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Its not that I don't believe you LB, but I do find the stance you are taking on this matter a little concerning. You don't know 100% for sure that your internet usage wasn't a contributing factor to the loss of your job- you will never know. Sometimes its several small issues that mount up. Regardless of what they WERE, its plain to most of us on this thread that you seem very very reluctant to admit any responsibility at ALL for the loss of your job, which is the worrying thing as it may hinder your progress in the future. I didn't deserve to get fired. I might have made mistakes at my job but I should NOT have gotten fired. That's my opinion. I did learn some things not to do at my next job though so my performance can be even BETTER. I don't take responsibility for being fired because it was wrongful. That's the way I feel about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yeah, he came to my office and tried to get rid of the viruses off of my computer. He saw my history and didn't mention anything or care about any of the sites I went to. He actually stood up for me when my bosses freaked out and told them it was an accident. Another naive assumption, that he only looks on your computer. Your company has a server, LB. He can check your internet usage from there. It would literally read like this, showing every single new page you clicked on: Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 8:41 a.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 8:45 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 8:53 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 9:14 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 9:21 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 10:41 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 10:56 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 11:03 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 11:07 a.m., visited: www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 11:35 a.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 12:01 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 12:26 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 12:37 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 12:43 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 1:07 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 Lauriebell82: June 1, 2009, 1:22 p.m., visited: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/f5 And on, and on, and on. It's not like he just clicks up by your URL list and sees this site as one of 12 sites you visit. The report looks just like what's above. Its not that I don't believe you LB, but I do find the stance you are taking on this matter a little concerning. You don't know 100% for sure that your internet usage wasn't a contributing factor to the loss of your job- you will never know. Sometimes its several small issues that mount up. Regardless of what they WERE, its plain to most of us on this thread that you seem very very reluctant to admit any responsibility at ALL for the loss of your job, which is the worrying thing as it may hinder your progress in the future. Agreed. It's not about believing, or not believing. It's about whether you're choosing to really take an honest look at why you were fired, and accept responsibility for those reasons. I didn't deserve to get fired. I might have made mistakes at my job but I should NOT have gotten fired. That's my opinion. I don't take responsibility for being fired because it was wrongful. That's the way I feel about it. So, if your excessive use of LS and calling your boss an LS an a-hole isn't worthy of being fired, what is? With all do respect, LB... with that attitude, you're never going to be a successful employee anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Lishy Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Oh dear why does everyone get on the girls case? I am glad I found out why her job ended as it was a mystery but you guys are not helping by getting on her case this way. I am sure LB knows her downfalls and she does not know why she got sacked so we dont know either. It could be LS, it could be her work, it could be her unironed clothes or it could be someone just didnt like her ... The concern is her future now and saying what you are to her is only making her more insecure. You all know less than LB and she doesnt know much herself about the reasons. This is the downside to this site, it can make a bad situation feel a whole heap worse and no one is really listening to LB's reasoning and you all are just making your own assumptions and trying to convince her that she got sacked for using LS at work when you have no clue at all, no one but her bosses know for sure Right now LB needs building up, not knocking down! Edited October 14, 2009 by Lishy Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Oh come on, Lishy. LB has received plenty of lifting up and support in this thread - read it. We're STILL supporting her, we're just suggesting she figure out why she was let go to begin with. If she wants to continue to stick her nose in the sand and say that she doesn't know why she was fired, but at the same time say that it was wrongful, how can she learn to be a better employee? Link to post Share on other sites
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