bark Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I've always believed that if you are looking to find a partner with a particular set of standards, then you must literally become the kind of person that you are trying to attract. When mere advice flirts with wisdom. Nicely put, enigma. Link to post Share on other sites
lostforwords Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Why is it a woman can have a sex toy (dildo), but a man cannot? This should be its own thread Who says a man cant have a sex toy? Ive always believed that it depends on whether a person is confident enough to actually frequent a sex shop and not feel ashamed or embarrassed to buy one....... I dont think it has anything to do with whether its ok/not ok for a male/female to have either/or rather than if that person is willing to actually purchase/owning one with out feeling embarrassed. A dildo/vibrator is humorous to some people just as much as a blow up doll/pocket pussy is to others. Its up to the actual owner/purchaser whether they will be discreet about it. I just dont think someone is going to say during coffee "Yeh I have a dildo/blowupdoll that i use sometimes" without being looked at oddly unless they were comfortable with thier sexuality. To my knowledge (at least with the people I frequent with) we may make fun of it or razz eachother, but that doesnt mean we dont own one. Link to post Share on other sites
meanon Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 If a man does it he is a stud. If a woman does it she is a slut. You say this is not "really" your view but it is society's view so that is it - it is an absolute truth end of debate. Firstly, you overstate society's view on this issue. Yes there is a tendency amongst some to have a double standard but this thread shows the more common view expressed is that a high volume of partners for either gender is not desirable - no double standard for the majority then so why should we accept it as an absolute? You admit your attitude contains a double standard but attempt to justify it because others think so. Do you do this (ie. live by other's views of what is acceptable) in other areas of life? If not your adoption of society's views as a legitimate basis for a moral code is just a convenient way of bypassing conscience. Why is it a woman can have a sex toy (dildo), but a man cannot? This should be its own thread Ok so the existance of another double standard makes it OK does it? Do two wrongs make a right? Society has evolved within a generation from one where exploitation of women was accepted as the norm to one where it is challenged. It is the possible exploitation of men by women that makes some people/society suspicious of such things. It is a more extreme version of the attitude to porn. As society changes and women have a more equal role attitudes to porn are changing - who knows by the time you are 80 maybe you will have your sex toys and not be a social outcast. The fact that you judge someone else as having had too many partners when you have had 40+, and that you said the numbers made you feel bad, suggests there is more here than your usual entertaining threads Yogi. The laughs are fun - long may they continue - but do you really want advice? If you do you need to be clearer about your feelings. For a start why not answer your own question - do YOU think 40+ partners are to many or does it not matter to you as you are a man? Link to post Share on other sites
Author yogi-mon Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 The existance of double standards doesn't make it "right". however, it is infact another double standard. It is a double standard that men can be promisicous and women cannot. I didnt make that one up. Look at James Bond. Look at Don Jaun I could go on.. All of these characters, fictional or not, are male "sluts" but are viewed by society in a glamourous light. They recieve "applaud" for being the way they are. gtg. TTyAL! Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbles Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Society has been degrading and belittling women for thousands of years, why would they want to start with men Now? I mean.....there must be more humiliating things that can be done to women aren't there? Bottom line.......society (men) enjoys degrading women; NOT themselves (men) Link to post Share on other sites
lostforwords Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 LOL dont try and wrap your head around it gals.... i have been trying to all frikking day and ive finally just come to the conclusion yogi def is one of those guys that likes to hear himself talk about ANYTHING that has to do with sex.... or about his schlong..... either way..... hes happy. (the girl being a slut thing did piss me off but ah cest la vie...... i think) lol Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 C'mon, Yogi. You not going to tell me that there isn't a grudging admiration for Madonna? Mata Hari and Edith Piaf in their day were heroines of a sort, as was Anais Nin. I think men secretly love the idea of a very openly sexual woman but won't admit to it. The views you speak of are not the views of society. It's the lip service society pays. People think one thing and act quite differently. Your anti-drug Limbaughs are on drugs. Your anti-infidelity TV preachers have affairs. And on it goes. Link to post Share on other sites
lostforwords Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 I think men secretly love the idea of a very openly sexual woman but won't admit to it. I absolutely agree moimeme...... Link to post Share on other sites
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